Drew Brees Deal is Done!

03-13-2018, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Like I said, if we had another 7-9 season he would be somewhere else as we speak. Payton bought himself some more time with Brees when he made the coaching changes and decided to commit to the run.
A bunch of teams have gotten a lot better this week. Hopefully we will continue to do the same.

I still disagree completely. Drew Brees and his family are firmly rooted in New Orleans. He would retire before leaving regardless of the Saints record. First and foremost, he wants to win more championships with the Saints. Secondly, he wants to break the all-time passing record (which will happen this season) and the all-time TD record (which should easily happen in 2019). At this point in his career money isn't the driving force it once had been. He is set for life. He has generational wealth. Now his family is the driving force. There is no way he is uprooting his family at this point. As I said, he would quit before doing that. If you haven't read both Brees' and Payton's books, do so. They both tell quite a bit how these two guys click.

SaintsBro · 03-13-2018, 02:39 PM

I bet the Saints are getting absolutely clobbered right now with people sending in their payments to renew their season tickets. The deadline to send in a chunk of the payment was this week, in fact I think it may have even been tomorrow was the exact deadline to pay the next installment for season ticket holders.... I know me and my buddy were holding onto our money, poised with the credit card, holding our breath, waiting to see what happened before we sent in our payment for next year. I'm betting we weren't the only ones doing that. Sent!

SmashMouth · 03-13-2018, 02:50 PM

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TheOak · 03-13-2018, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Brees apologized to Tom Condon? F**k Tom Condon!

I get it's Condon's job to get max for his client, but there's also success measured in other ways and that includes more endorsements for a repeat Superbowl winner...

Condon's made plenty at the expense of this team's AND Brees' success, so that MoFo is owed no apology; that's just Brees' good character...

Next CBA should have a caveat to allow for one true franchise player where his cap number doesn't break the team's ability to be competitive...

Not disagreeing with your proposal for a new Tom Condon greeting.. Just commenting that there a lot of layers to this contract and its value that we dont care about but others do.

- Condons compensation is dependent on the contract value. (This is where the greeting fits

)

- Drew's contract always has the potential to affect future QB contracts and QB Tag values.

- I am willing to bet that Drew feels obligated to get maximum value as part of the NFLPA's leadership.

- Lastly there is Drew getting what he wants for his family.

Now here is where we see things a little differently. While the size of Drew Brees's contracts has not helped the teams cap space in any way, and we can debate whether Drew actually met that contract value or not, I dont think anyone would say that we gained nothing from it.

Below is where the damage to the team was done; dead money and the contracts that made the majority of that. ALL of that as well as Drew's contracts, is on Loomis .... He inked every one of them and its Loomis's job to keep Condon from getting max value.

Dead Money
-$25M 2017
-$42M 2016
-$34M 2015
-$16M 2014

burningmetal · 03-13-2018, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No reason why anyone should have been holding their breath. As I've been saying all along there was always a ZERO percent chance a deal wasn't going to be made. Anyone who thought different doesn't understand the dynamics involved with Brees, Payton, Loomis and the Saints.

You really went out on a limb on that one.

You also thought the relationship between Brees and Jimmy Graham meant that the Saints wouldn't trade Graham, if I remember correctly. For someone who loves to make fun of "pretend general managers", you sure like to pretend you sit in on GM talks, and pat yourself on the back for an easy prediction.

The Dude · 03-13-2018, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I still disagree completely. Drew Brees and his family are firmly rooted in New Orleans. He would retire before leaving regardless of the Saints record. First and foremost, he wants to win more championships with the Saints. Secondly, he wants to break the all-time passing record (which will happen this season) and the all-time TD record (which should easily happen in 2019). At this point in his career money isn't the driving force it once had been. He is set for life. He has generational wealth. Now his family is the driving force. There is no way he is uprooting his family at this point. As I said, he would quit before doing that. If you haven't read both Brees' and Payton's books. They both tell quite a bit how these two guys click.

Btw check your PayPal

AsylumGuido · 03-13-2018, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Btw check your PayPal

She did.

AsylumGuido · 03-13-2018, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

You really went out on a limb on that one.

You also thought the relationship between Brees and Jimmy Graham meant that the Saints wouldn't trade Graham, if I remember correctly. For someone who loves to make fun of "pretend general managers", you sure like to pretend you sit in on GM talks, and pat yourself on the back for an easy prediction.

You don't remember correctly. I can't imagine I would say anything along those lines when I have always backed whatever the front office determines as the right move.

And, I am not making fun of pretend general managers. I have bought into the fact that it is entertaining for some to try to anticipate what would be the best needs for their favorite team and what moves it would take to accomplish that task. While it isn't my bag I do now support those who do enjoy the game.

BTW, welcome back. I haven't seen much of you recently.

RaginCajun83 · 03-13-2018, 04:51 PM

Wow You guys sure can turn what should be a joyful thread into a p*****g contest

spkb25 · 03-13-2018, 06:09 PM

Drew Brees openly admitted if the Saints had gone 7-9 again he was going to Cleveland

03-13-2018, 02:38 PM	#41
Threaded by AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,672 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by The Dude Like I said, if we had another 7-9 season he would be somewhere else as we speak. Payton bought himself some more time with Brees when he made the coaching changes and decided to commit to the run. A bunch of teams have gotten a lot better this week. Hopefully we will continue to do the same. I still disagree completely. Drew Brees and his family are firmly rooted in New Orleans. He would retire before leaving regardless of the Saints record. First and foremost, he wants to win more championships with the Saints. Secondly, he wants to break the all-time passing record (which will happen this season) and the all-time TD record (which should easily happen in 2019). At this point in his career money isn't the driving force it once had been. He is set for life. He has generational wealth. Now his family is the driving force. There is no way he is uprooting his family at this point. As I said, he would quit before doing that. If you haven't read both Brees' and Payton's books, do so. They both tell quite a bit how these two guys click. jeanpierre likes this. Last edited by AsylumGuido; 03-14-2018 at 06:38 AM..
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03-13-2018, 02:39 PM	#42
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03-13-2018, 02:50 PM	#43
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03-13-2018, 03:30 PM	#44
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Drew Brees Deal is Done! Originally Posted by jeanpierre Brees apologized to Tom Condon? F**k Tom Condon! I get it's Condon's job to get max for his client, but there's also success measured in other ways and that includes more endorsements for a repeat Superbowl winner... Condon's made plenty at the expense of this team's AND Brees' success, so that MoFo is owed no apology; that's just Brees' good character... Next CBA should have a caveat to allow for one true franchise player where his cap number doesn't break the team's ability to be competitive... Not disagreeing with your proposal for a new Tom Condon greeting.. Just commenting that there a lot of layers to this contract and its value that we dont care about but others do. - Condons compensation is dependent on the contract value. (This is where the greeting fits ) - Drew's contract always has the potential to affect future QB contracts and QB Tag values. - I am willing to bet that Drew feels obligated to get maximum value as part of the NFLPA's leadership. - Lastly there is Drew getting what he wants for his family. Now here is where we see things a little differently. While the size of Drew Brees's contracts has not helped the teams cap space in any way, and we can debate whether Drew actually met that contract value or not, I dont think anyone would say that we gained nothing from it. Below is where the damage to the team was done; dead money and the contracts that made the majority of that. ALL of that as well as Drew's contracts, is on Loomis .... He inked every one of them and its Loomis's job to keep Condon from getting max value. Dead Money -$25M 2017 -$42M 2016 -$34M 2015 -$16M 2014 jeanpierre likes this.
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03-13-2018, 04:04 PM	#45
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees Deal is Done! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No reason why anyone should have been holding their breath. As I've been saying all along there was always a ZERO percent chance a deal wasn't going to be made. Anyone who thought different doesn't understand the dynamics involved with Brees, Payton, Loomis and the Saints. You really went out on a limb on that one. You also thought the relationship between Brees and Jimmy Graham meant that the Saints wouldn't trade Graham, if I remember correctly. For someone who loves to make fun of "pretend general managers", you sure like to pretend you sit in on GM talks, and pat yourself on the back for an easy prediction.

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03-13-2018, 04:17 PM	#46
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Drew Brees Deal is Done! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I still disagree completely. Drew Brees and his family are firmly rooted in New Orleans. He would retire before leaving regardless of the Saints record. First and foremost, he wants to win more championships with the Saints. Secondly, he wants to break the all-time passing record (which will happen this season) and the all-time TD record (which should easily happen in 2019). At this point in his career money isn't the driving force it once had been. He is set for life. He has generational wealth. Now his family is the driving force. There is no way he is uprooting his family at this point. As I said, he would quit before doing that. If you haven't read both Brees' and Payton's books. They both tell quite a bit how these two guys click. Btw check your PayPal
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03-13-2018, 04:26 PM	#47
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03-13-2018, 04:34 PM	#48
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,672	Re: Drew Brees Deal is Done! Originally Posted by burningmetal You really went out on a limb on that one. You also thought the relationship between Brees and Jimmy Graham meant that the Saints wouldn't trade Graham, if I remember correctly. For someone who loves to make fun of "pretend general managers", you sure like to pretend you sit in on GM talks, and pat yourself on the back for an easy prediction. You don't remember correctly. I can't imagine I would say anything along those lines when I have always backed whatever the front office determines as the right move. And, I am not making fun of pretend general managers. I have bought into the fact that it is entertaining for some to try to anticipate what would be the best needs for their favorite team and what moves it would take to accomplish that task. While it isn't my bag I do now support those who do enjoy the game. BTW, welcome back. I haven't seen much of you recently. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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