You are Ndamukong Suh... what makes the most sense to do?
 

Do you take the millions of dollars in guaranteed money by signing the highest contract you can get but only a 1/25 chance of reaching the Superbowl, or would you sign with a team that had a proven QB and a much better chance of winning the Superbowl(maybe 1/12)? :rolleyes:

Ok consider if your chances were 1/4 to make the Superbowl.
Post your comments on what your chances would be to sign a lower contract.

What would your friends, family and agent tell you? :confused:

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Have to go with the potential glory. The money is not going to make or break me at this point in my career. I'm not playing for money at this point.

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What I would do and what he will do are different. He'll take the money. You know he will.

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Since no one can really predict how most teams will do, go for the money if it's out of Green Bay or Houston.

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Rams in the mix. They're right there, like us. He has options, more than we know.

I'm turning my attention to Johnathan Hankins who PFF graded an 85.5 last season.

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Ndamukong Suh Wants More Than a Billion

Choices in the poll suck.

This article may give us an insight or two.

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His wife said it all in the video. Get a job so I can stop lending you money. It's all about the money with Suh and nothing more and I hope he ends up with the team he thinks will be the best and they turn out to be the gutter dwellers of the future.

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I’d take the money. Super Bowls mean nothing for the legacy of a defensive tackle. These organizations aren’t looking out for the players, so I don’t see why we should assume it’s in his best interest to take less money for a ring he could buy himself 1,000 times over.

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John Randle and Cortez Kennedy are two names that come to mind who got in without the ring. I’m sure he wants to go to the Hall of Fame, but he’s into Silicon Valley and things like. He’s a really smart guy. He should maximize his earning potential in the league and move on to even bigger things in a growing technology sector. I mean, I’d love for him to take less and come play for us, but I wouldn’t hold it against him. We have people on the boards calling him out of his name because he wants to meet with every team interested and make a decision with his family. It’s pretty ridiculous...

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Rings are overrated. These guys have just a few years to make very BIG money. Suh is luckier than most as he's been around more than 2 or 3 years and has signed multiple contracts.

If it's me, I'm going for the money. That doesn't mean I'm not a team guy. I'm totally a team guy, and I'd even take a discount if I'm in the very fortunate position of a guy like Brees. Then again, 27 million ain't exactly pocket change...

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No they're not, they open a lot of doors - case in point, in my business I deal with marine, agriculture, energy (oil & gas) - wide array of folks...

My friend Hal asked me to hire his kid to work in my warehouse one summer, give him a taste at real works as he wasn't putting in the time on books...

At 14, this kid was already identified by pitching scouts across the country, I caught him in my warehouse on a slow afternoon - wicked movement, he was legit...

But this kid knew it all, he was deaf to good advice; and he felt he was maxed out and wouldn't be a "real" pitcher; had him meet an ex-minor leaguer...



As I still do business with the former pro, can't name drop, but he's got local connections and he's now a company man (if you work around oil & gas, that's a big deal)...

This former pro never played a day in the majors, but he met a lot of big league talent on rehab reassignment...

He'd hook big leaguer friends up with terrific fishing trips down here, then he started inviting big oil execs on these fishing excursions...

Now he is a company man, earning over 500K a year and he's still doing this same schtick even today...



Had him come by one Friday afternoon as I cook for my crew, and tThat day he told Hal's stubborn son this and I'll never forget it...

"...if I could've played in the Bigs, maybe even rode the bench on a Series Winner, this would be peanuts - they all want to meet a winner..."

Remember it like it was yesterday, and he was absolutely right...

And no, the kid flunked out, GED, is expecting his third child at age 22 working as a deckhand on a barge...

Yeah, getting guaranteed money is important, but don't kid yourself - Rings Matter...

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Suh wont be in the HOF anyway imo.
Don't see him leaving LA without a deal.

The Rams looking really strong at the moment.

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He's going to take the money...wouldn't you?

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Lots of stories like that. I know a few guys who might have 'made it'. Heck, with a better head on my shoulders when I was a kid I might have made a hell of a second baseman - I didn't have the arm to play short or third. :-)

But it's not the point I was making. I'm saying a guy like Suh - everybody throws rocks because he's going for the money. I'm just being real. I'm saying that people throwing those rocks aren't in his shoes. Suh is clearly looking past football. Aaron Brooks is another savvy guy who held out, made lots of money, and has put it to great use for himself and his family. Put a ring in my left and and put an extra 5 million in the other hand. I promise you I'll give the ring back every time.

As fans we look at these guys and expect them to have the same loyalty. Very few players ever end up in a position to lend itself to loyalty. They get cut. Business decisions.

So I'm going for the money. Rings are nice, but for 99% of the players in the league 'nice' is all they are. That doesn't mean they aren't motivated to get one. Who doesn't want to win the big game? But, in my opinion, that misses the point.

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Not at this point in my career. I've got money I need a Superbowl ring to get into the HOF

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Its hard to predict or what makes most sense for him.

I don't understand why sign with a team in hopes of playing for a winner and getting a ring:

Its a gamble. Players who have done this probably realize its still a gamble and so difficult getting to the SB that you might as well go for the money.

I can't imagine a team of advisors sitting around telling him go here for a chance to win a ring. Those advisors has a chance to get a nice check by him signing for $$$ and lots of $$$.

I also agree that unless you are a QB. Go for the money.

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I know where you're coming from but I wouldn't need advisors telling me crap at this point in my career. Whatever they've been telling him until now was bull anyway. Money is not everything in this life. Personal achievement is more important to me the older I get and it will be the same with him. I would rather pick a team that I thought had the greatest chance at the Superbowl toward the end of my career than pick one for the money and watch that other team win the Superbowl and me wanting to pay all the money in the world to have that feeling of winning the Superbowl.

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Defensive lineman have just as much chance to make it into the Hall of Fame as a QB. I've listed only the DT's and a combo, without just DE's and the QB's for comparison.

Modern Era DT's in the HOF:

Junious (Buck) Buchanan (DT) 1963-1975
Curley Culp 1968-1981
Richard Dent 1983-1997
Art Donovan (DT) 1950-1961
Joe Greene (DT) 1969-1981
Charles Haley 1986-1996; 1999
Dan Hampton (DT-DE) 1979-1990
Claude Humphrey 1968-1981
Henry Jordan (DT) 1957-1969
Cortez Kennedy (DT) 1990-2000
Bob Lilly (DT) 1961-1974
Leo Nomellini (DT) 1950-1963
Merlin Olsen (DT) 1962-1976
Alan Page (DT) 1967-1981
John Randle 1990-2003
Warren Sapp 1995-2007
Bruce Smith 1985-2003
Ernie Stautner (DT) 1950-1963
Michael Strahan 1993-2007
Arnie Weinmeister (DT) 1948-1953
Randy White (DT) 1975-1988
Reggie White (DT-DE) 1985-1998, 2000

Modern ERA QB's in the HOF

Troy Aikman 1989-2000
George Blanda (Also PK) 1949-1958, 1960-1975
Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983
Len Dawson 1957-1975
John Elway 1983-1998
Brett Favre 1991-2010
Dan Fouts 1973-1987
Otto Graham 1946-1955
Bob Griese 1967-1980
Sonny Jurgensen 1957-1974
Jim Kelly 1986-1996
Bobby Layne 1948-1962
Dan Marino 1983-1999
Joe Montana 1979-1994
Warren Moon 1984-2000
Joe Namath 1965-1977
Ken Stabler 1970-1984
Bart Starr 1956-1971
Roger Staubach 1969-1979
Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978
Y.A. Tittle 1948-1964
Johnny Unitas 1956-1973
Norm Van Brocklin 1949-1960
Kurt Warner 1998-2009
Bob Waterfield 1945-1952
Steve Young 1985-1999

Only included modern era because I couldn't find a list of DT's prior to 1946 for either position. There is a list for QB's before 1946 but must are just listed as HB.

With this list in mind I would take 8 million for 2 years and have a 1/5 chance of winning the Superbowl over 12 million and a 1/25 chance.

If you had 4 million to spend wouldn't you spend it on a Superbowl Ring? Ask those players from Minnesota, Buffalo, Panthers, Falcons or Bengals. I bet they would do it. I knew an offensive guard who played for the Bengals and he lived in Nebraska after he retired. I talked to him one day when he was wearing his Superbowl ring. He said he was very proud to wear it but would much rather have the other one. He said it kinda jokingly but you could tell he really meant it.

Suh will always be remembered for stepping on people and his unprofessional treatment of players on the field unless he can propel himself to overcome that stigma and really become part of a team.

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Are those Vegas odds? I'd say Houston and Green Bay are about the same distance from a championship.

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The ring and HOF induction way more valuable than a fat paycheck. He likely goes with the easy win, he was talking about finances recently. Trying to land on a SB contender and winning it, low probability but I say why not? He has already earned his coin. Good time to take the risk.

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and this is why they call you the BEAST!

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I think the Saints should sign Jonathan Hankins. He's every bit as good, younger, would be cheaper.

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Sorry, but he is really no where as good. At least from what I was hearing today on NFL Radio. They were saying he be a great third rotational DT. Suh is a front line, every down DT.

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Well considering the kind of money he will command I really hope you're right.

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The Rams will over pay for him or Chuckie will get him as his signature defensive move.

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The rams have already played their head games against us. Just like how SF took Nnamdi and ruined his career in 2013 when he chose them over us.

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We were all right... well almost. :D