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SmashMouth 03-29-2018 08:19 PM

Wonderlic - How do you compare to Lamar Jackson or...
 
...Drew Brees on the Wonderlic exam?

TaKe your 25 questions Wonderlic test here

It's timed test and harder than you might imagine.

saintfan 03-29-2018 08:39 PM

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76% with my son yelling at his computer (roblox) in the background. I should get a few extra points for stress.

Did I really sign for 2/$50? I think I got robbed...

voodooido 03-29-2018 08:47 PM

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Couldn’t finish. Had to get my son his tamiflu lol. I did however get 15 of 19 before I timed out.

darksoul35 03-30-2018 07:38 AM

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I only got 9 right. I feel dumb now.

foreverfan 03-30-2018 08:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 797174)
76% with my son yelling at his computer (roblox) in the background. I should get a few extra points for stress.

Did I really sign for 2/$50? I think I got robbed...


Hey Smashmouth, did you put that check in the mail yet?

Beastmode 03-30-2018 09:01 AM

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Manziel's score. One of the highest.

Rugby Saint II 04-01-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 797202)
Manziel's score. One of the highest.

That man knows how to party hard. I'll give him credit for that.......if nothing else. :wink:

jeanpierre 04-01-2018 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 797202)
Manziel's score. One of the highest.

Manziel has also been diagnosed with BiPolar disorder, so that changes his ability to actuate his intelligence, potential...

CheramieIII 04-01-2018 05:29 PM

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Just took it again because I figured out the time limit and scored 18 out of 23. wooooooohooooooooooo

hitta 04-01-2018 07:35 PM

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The wonderlic test isn't really a good indicator of intelligence. It is more an indicator of processing speed. The questions are all easy, and given enough time I think a person of reasonable intelligence would get them all right. A person could definitely have a high iq and a low wonderlic score though. The reason they use the wonderlic is they want to know how quick a person can process information. They don't give a **** about whether a person can solve a highly complex problem.

It's also easy to **** up the wonderlic test. You spend a little too much time on a single problem and it screws up the entire test for you. This is one of the reasons I think potential draftees should avoid the wonderlic test unless they practice it.

K Major 04-02-2018 09:23 AM

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Ahh ... the laws of probability.

There are quite a few independent studies out there that indicate scores from 1-25 do parallel to high probabilities on becoming a solid NFL QB once you reach the 25 mark. The Jim Kelly, Warren Sapps & Marino's of the world (lower wonderlic scores) are rare breeds. The NFL have these wonderlic test set up for a reason.

I will say a score of 13 is concerning for me. Especially considering that these prospective players have had months to prepare.

hitta 04-02-2018 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 797403)
Ahh ... the laws of probability.

There are quite a few independent studies out there that indicate scores from 1-25 do parallel to high probabilities on becoming a solid NFL QB once you reach the 25 mark. The Jim Kelly, Warren Sapps & Marino's of the world (lower wonderlic scores) are rare breeds. The NFL have these wonderlic test set up for a reason.

I will say a score of 13 is concerning for me. Especially considering that these prospective players have had months to prepare.

They are set up for a reason, I agree. The difference between online versions of the test and the actual test though is that the difficulty at the beginning of the wonderlic is incredibly easy, and the problems become more and more complex as you progress through the test. The versions you find online have the problems more randomly assigned. This is actually an attempt by the test designers to remove the potential of becoming stuck on a problem. It still happens though, which is why unless the draftee has practiced the test and gained a good feel for when they should skip problems, a draftee, imo, should skip the test.

The Wonderlic is a tool to predict processing speed. It has a fairly strong reliability on the Cronbach scale. These test aren't infallible though. Also just because these scores are repeatable does not mean that they are actual predictors of processing speed or processing intelligence. There are still quite a few reasons other than what is being tested for scores to dip or inflate. Also, at a certain point a high wonderlic score is actually linked to poorer performance in the NFL.

K Major 04-02-2018 10:41 AM

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But I will say this on Lamar Jackson the player ...

The things I'd really be interested in as a GM are :

(1) Can he command a huddle.
(2) Does he have the ability to learn concepts.
(3) How does he do on the chalk board breaking down plays?
(4) His demeanor & approach to the huddle.
(5) When breaking down plays, can you tell me "who is the primary? Who is the secondary?" Check downs at the line of scrimmage.
(6) Can he speak the game?

At this level, you can't win simply on athletic ability alone. It's what is between the ears.

If he can do those things effectively and consistently ... and he's your best option (BPA) @ 27 ... take him and feel good about the pick.

At some point, the Saints will need a QB. #9 has spoiled us but he's approaching 40.

CheramieIII 04-02-2018 11:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 797384)
The wonderlic test isn't really a good indicator of intelligence. It is more an indicator of processing speed. The questions are all easy, and given enough time I think a person of reasonable intelligence would get them all right. A person could definitely have a high iq and a low wonderlic score though. The reason they use the wonderlic is they want to know how quick a person can process information. They don't give a **** about whether a person can solve a highly complex problem.

It's also easy to **** up the wonderlic test. You spend a little too much time on a single problem and it screws up the entire test for you. This is one of the reasons I think potential draftees should avoid the wonderlic test unless they practice it.

I agree. You shouldn't get punished for the questions you don't complete.

SmashMouth 04-02-2018 12:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 797410)
But I will say this on Lamar Jackson the player ...

The things I'd really be interested in as a GM are :

(1) Can he command a huddle.
(2) Does he have the ability to learn concepts.
(3) How does he do on the chalk board breaking down plays?
(4) His demeanor & approach to the huddle.
(5) When breaking down plays, can you tell me "who is the primary? Who is the secondary?" Check downs at the line of scrimmage.
(6) Can he speak the game?

At this level, you can't win simply on athletic ability alone. It's what is between the ears.

If he can do those things effectively and consistently ... and he's your best option (BPA) @ 27 ... take him and feel good about the pick.

At some point, the Saints will need a QB. #9 has spoiled us but he's approaching 40.

Just maybe Taysom Hill is that guy...

dizzle88 04-02-2018 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 797418)
Just maybe Taysom Hill is that guy...

Personally for me, it's difficult to get excited about Taysom Hill. His College tape is just littered with overthrown slant passes which is slightly ignored because the guy has wheels.

SmashMouth 04-02-2018 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 797419)
Personally for me, it's difficult to get excited about Taysom Hill. His College tape is just littered with overthrown slant passes which is slightly ignored because the guy has wheels.

He broke Steve Young's records... that has to count for something.


spkb25 04-02-2018 06:01 PM

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22, 88%

vpheughan 04-03-2018 10:50 AM

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Exploratory factor analysis is one method of checking dimensionality. Technically speaking, Cronbach's alpha is not a statistical test – it is a coefficient of reliability (or consistency). Cronbach's alpha can be written as a function of the number of test items and the average inter-correlation among the items.

PRECISELY!!!

CheramieIII 04-03-2018 11:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 797418)
Just maybe Taysom Hill is that guy...

YES!

skymike 04-05-2018 02:22 AM

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Uh Oh. I came to the story late, but it sounds like we're looking at this guy to succeed Brees. He apparently tears em up in College, but I'm guessing much of it is with his feet. And then the term "Wonderlic" comes into the story.

not good.


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