There was a method to the Saints’ draft madness. Really.
 

There was a method to the Saints’ draft madness. Really.

DALLAS — A common, lingering question at the top of the NFL Draft is what were the New Orleans Saints doing? What were they thinking?

The Saints moved up 13 spots in the first round in a trade with the Green Bay Packers to select Texas-San Antonio defensive end Marcus Davenport at No. 14. The cost included their 2019 first-round draft pick.

Too much for a developing player from a small school, critics offered. A reach, others scolded.

But the Saints’ NFL peers know better. They are noticing the Saints’ recent method of draft business. The Saints in last year’s draft found instant defensive (cornerback Marshon Lattimore) and offensive (running back Alvin Kamara) playmakers along with other distinguishing rookie contributors.

I believe Davenport is a strong bet to continue the trend.

What was New Orleans thinking?

The key is they were thinking.

The Saints are drafting now with player learning methods at the forefront.


DALLAS — A common, lingering question at the top of the NFL Draft is what were the New Orleans Saints doing? What were they thinking?

The Saints moved up 13 spots in the first round in a trade with the Green Bay Packers to select Texas-San Antonio defensive end Marcus Davenport at No. 14. The cost included their 2019 first-round draft pick.

Too much for a developing player from a small school, critics offered. A reach, others scolded.

But the Saints’ NFL peers know better. They are noticing the Saints’ recent method of draft business. The Saints in last year’s draft found instant defensive (cornerback Marshon Lattimore) and offensive (running back Alvin Kamara) playmakers along with other distinguishing rookie contributors.

I believe Davenport is a strong bet to continue the trend.

What was New Orleans thinking?

The key is they were thinking.

The Saints are drafting now with player learning methods at the forefront.
DALLAS — A common, lingering question at the top of the NFL Draft is what were the New Orleans Saints doing? What were they thinking?

The Saints moved up 13 spots in the first round in a trade with the Green Bay Packers to select Texas-San Antonio defensive end Marcus Davenport at No. 14. The cost included their 2019 first-round draft pick.

Too much for a developing player from a small school, critics offered. A reach, others scolded.

But the Saints’ NFL peers know better. They are noticing the Saints’ recent method of draft business. The Saints in last year’s draft found instant defensive (cornerback Marshon Lattimore) and offensive (running back Alvin Kamara) playmakers along with other distinguishing rookie contributors.

I believe Davenport is a strong bet to continue the trend.

What was New Orleans thinking?

The key is they were thinking.

The Saints are drafting now with player learning methods at the forefront.

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This was an interesting read and affords some encouragement for those of us that were shocked when the Saints made the trade for Davenport.

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There was a method to the Saints’ draft madness. Really.
The Saints’ confusing draft moves were a reflection of a team that thinks differently about its picks.

Here's a working link.

Saints Draft Strategy Article
 

Really interesting stuff regarding how we are approaching the draft these days...

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/5/...rcus-davenport

The Saints are drafting now with player learning methods at the forefront. Head coach Sean Payton believes players’ learning methods cross section in four ways — never struggles in education and in football learning; never struggles in education but struggles in football learning; struggles in education but never in football; struggles in both. He calls it good-good, good-bad, bad-good and bad-bad. He is fascinated in gauging the mental side of young players.

Payton recently told me this about the Saints’ newfound draft philosophy:

“We are working in the area of processing to help us as we try to become better in this area of identifying. We are measuring mental traits that have developed and finalized in that way since the player was probably 13 or 14 years old. You are testing focus, retention, re-focusing. You are testing attention. I’m excited about this area and we are exploring it fully. It may become a standard for learning about all rookie players.”

Might explain a little bit about why we might draft a perceived project over the bigger names.

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So there is hope for me....errrr.....us?


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Stephone Anthony deserves some of the credit for the development of this method

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Don't miss how early they were thinking about drafting him...

They game him things to learn at the Senior bowl... preping him early.

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And then followed up later to see how he retained the info. Forward thinking. Very nontraditional, but you have to evolve if you wish to compete. What worked in evaluating 10-20 years ago doesn't work as well as if you fine tune the process to include new learned values.

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In other words..”Benson is gone, we can now do anything we want. Let’s play around and try and reinvent the wheel. If it doesn’t work then oh-well, but if it does my stock is really going to rise when it comes to my next coaching job.”

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I really like that approach. Most every player drafted or signed as a UDFA was the biggest, strongest, fastest player on their high school or college team. A bunch of them got by on pure physical talent others on hard work. The key is to find the players that fits in to both categories. The mental aspect is such a huge part of the game and is only getting bigger.

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No, adverse to your continuous negativity about everything to do with the Saints this franchise is continuing to grow. I have no doubt whatsoever we'll bring in another Lombardi, or more, in the near future.

You just stay there in your little enclave expecting the worst.

:rolleyes:

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Exactly. It appears to be working well.

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Thanks for cleaning the link up for me fellas. You’d think at this point that using computers would be easier for me. 🙄

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Really? Those are the words you got from this?

My mind went to all the physically gifted idiots that never live up the hype in the NFL. It just doesn't seem like "reinventing the wheel" to me. It seems more like "why didn't somebody think of this already?"

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Wtf is your deal man? You're not even a pessimist. Because pessimists usually have some kind of logic to their BS. Idk even know what yours is. Just rhetoric I suppose.

Did Sean Payton kick you in the nuts when you tried to shake his hand?

You must be fun at parties.

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You can say that three times!

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Re: There was a method to the Saints’ draft madness. Really.
 

Why not trust the Saints FO that just produced one of the best drafts in the past 20 years an entire season ago instead ?

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Dude that's just mean. Come on now. Put down the pipe and pick up the Xanax.

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I have been all about Payton using this kind of thinking in the draft, for a long time now.

Obviously the physical component is an important part of being a beast on the field, but that's just one part. But, intelligence is important. Being able to learn, is important. Maturity is important. Being grounded is important. Not being caught out driving around drunk in your car at 6:30 in the morning, after a full night of partying, is important.

We've had a few players in recent times who were "bad eggs" and who got into trouble, hanging out late at the Republic, DUI's, brawling fights with girlfriends, flunking drug tests, etc etc. And to me, too many of those guys also kind of correspond to the slump, the recent spate of 7-9 years and flat performances.

I admit that I have a real beef about this stuff -- I rag on players all the time about off field behavior. That's because I grew up in the Chuck Muncie/George Rogers cocaine years, when the Saints were a trainwreck in the locker room and off the field, rife with drugs, attitudes, and prima donna bad behavior. And not coincidentally, that translated into a 1-15 team, a 4-12 team, and absolutely miserable games. To play well and succeed in the NFL, you have to have a certain level of intelligence, maturity, responsibility, and self-discipline. 99 times out of 100, you simply won't last for very long if you don't.

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Do you really think Benson had any input into the draft philosophy of the Saints? LOL

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B&G Camping 2018 Roommate of the Year Award? :bugeyes: