Rookie Saints offensive linemen Will Clapp, Rick Leonard in different places to this point in camp

jeanpierre · 08-15-2018, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

That work ethic quote is...umm...interesting. Clapp looked good in Jax & he will make the 53. I feel we'd lose him if we try stashing him on PS. Slick Rick? Ehh. He must know someone in SP's past or in the Saints organization. He'll be more than safe on PS.

Interesting? To me at the least it's bothersome, even worrisome. Who scouted this guy and bang the table for him in the draft meetings?

Barry from MS · 08-15-2018, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Interesting? To me at the least it's bothersome, even worrisome. Who scouted this guy and bang the table for him in the draft meetings?

Still scratching my head on that one too. Watching him at Fla State I wasn't impressed. I remember making a few comments in-game about him getting blown up & appearing lost in his assignments. And normally Olinemen don't get noticed unless they are doing well or sucking hard. He sucked hard against ACC dlinemen plus had problems with the D2 schools.

Our scouts see something I sure didn't see, and that is NFL potential. Reminds me of the Tavon Rooks pick. Not good.

K Major · 08-15-2018, 10:20 AM

Not sure what the uproar is all about on a 4th rounder. Even the best NFL teams are extremely lucky to hit on 50% of their 4th round selections, so if it doesn't work out ... not a huge deal.

I hope Leonard continues to improve at practice & subsequent preseason games.

Keep grinding.

Rugby Saint II · 08-15-2018, 12:07 PM

I didn't expect much from Clapp. If he follows in Strief's shoes then I'll be happy.

jeanpierre · 08-15-2018, 01:15 PM

In all honesty, I felt Clapp was more of a late fourth, early fifth pick because of his versatility and Leonard was a 7-FA grade...

It's worked out exactly that way...

AsylumGuido · 08-15-2018, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

In all honesty, I felt Clapp was more of a late fourth, early fifth pick because of his versatility and Leonard was a 7-FA grade...

It's worked out exactly that way...

No one knows how it works out until at least two years down the road for most players selected after the first couple of rounds. One week into the very first preseason isn't a prime time to be making any judgments.

jeanpierre · 08-19-2018, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No one knows how it works out until at least two years down the road for most players selected after the first couple of rounds. One week into the very first preseason isn't a prime time to be making any judgments.

Well Dan Roushar lit a fire under his arse about his work ethic; and apparently Zach Strief felt compelled enough to pull the rookie aside as well...

But PFF recently graded him as one of the top rookies (going against two's of course); a better gauge will be him playing with the ones in the final PreSeason game...

Barry from MS · 08-19-2018, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well Dan Roushar lit a fire under his arse about his work ethic; and apparently Zach Strief felt compelled enough to pull the rookie aside as well...

But PFF recently graded him as one of the top rookies (going against two's of course); a better gauge will be him playing with the ones in the final PreSeason game...

Still...umm...worrisome that a fire needs to be lit regarding a 4th rd rookie's work ethic. The terms "soft" & "immature" comes to mind. Hope they turn him in the right direction. Regarding PFF, the Cards admit to lacking any kind of DLine depth & he was adequate vs Jax. Coaching is what's gonna save this kid's bacon.

Thirty3 · 08-15-2018, 01:44 PM

O tackles hard to come by

Cruize · 08-15-2018, 08:07 PM

For Leonard to make the squad, he had to excel, have Armstead or Peat go down, or Bushrod just suck. An uphill battle.For Clapp to have already taken the role of Kelemete, it's says way more about Clapp than Leonard.

08-15-2018, 11:30 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Rookie Saints offensive linemen Will Clapp, Rick Leonard in different places to this point in camp Originally Posted by Barry from MS That work ethic quote is...umm...interesting. Clapp looked good in Jax & he will make the 53. I feel we'd lose him if we try stashing him on PS. Slick Rick? Ehh. He must know someone in SP's past or in the Saints organization. He'll be more than safe on PS. Interesting? To me at the least it's bothersome, even worrisome. Who scouted this guy and bang the table for him in the draft meetings? Barry from MS likes this.

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Rookie Saints offensive linemen Will Clapp, Rick Leonard in different places to this point in camp Originally Posted by jeanpierre Interesting? To me at the least it's bothersome, even worrisome. Who scouted this guy and bang the table for him in the draft meetings? Still scratching my head on that one too. Watching him at Fla State I wasn't impressed. I remember making a few comments in-game about him getting blown up & appearing lost in his assignments. And normally Olinemen don't get noticed unless they are doing well or sucking hard. He sucked hard against ACC dlinemen plus had problems with the D2 schools. Our scouts see something I sure didn't see, and that is NFL potential. Reminds me of the Tavon Rooks pick. Not good. jeanpierre likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,867 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rookie Saints offensive linemen Will Clapp, Rick Leonard in different places to this point in camp Not sure what the uproar is all about on a 4th rounder. Even the best NFL teams are extremely lucky to hit on 50% of their 4th round selections, so if it doesn't work out ... not a huge deal. I hope Leonard continues to improve at practice & subsequent preseason games. Keep grinding.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: Rookie Saints offensive linemen Will Clapp, Rick Leonard in different places to this point in camp I didn't expect much from Clapp. If he follows in Strief's shoes then I'll be happy.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Rookie Saints offensive linemen Will Clapp, Rick Leonard in different places to this point in camp In all honesty, I felt Clapp was more of a late fourth, early fifth pick because of his versatility and Leonard was a 7-FA grade... It's worked out exactly that way...

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Rookie Saints offensive linemen Will Clapp, Rick Leonard in different places to this point in camp Originally Posted by jeanpierre In all honesty, I felt Clapp was more of a late fourth, early fifth pick because of his versatility and Leonard was a 7-FA grade... It's worked out exactly that way... No one knows how it works out until at least two years down the road for most players selected after the first couple of rounds. One week into the very first preseason isn't a prime time to be making any judgments. K Major likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Rookie Saints offensive linemen Will Clapp, Rick Leonard in different places to this point in camp Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No one knows how it works out until at least two years down the road for most players selected after the first couple of rounds. One week into the very first preseason isn't a prime time to be making any judgments. Well Dan Roushar lit a fire under his arse about his work ethic; and apparently Zach Strief felt compelled enough to pull the rookie aside as well... But PFF recently graded him as one of the top rookies (going against two's of course); a better gauge will be him playing with the ones in the final PreSeason game...

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Rookie Saints offensive linemen Will Clapp, Rick Leonard in different places to this point in camp Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well Dan Roushar lit a fire under his arse about his work ethic; and apparently Zach Strief felt compelled enough to pull the rookie aside as well... But PFF recently graded him as one of the top rookies (going against two's of course); a better gauge will be him playing with the ones in the final PreSeason game... Still...umm...worrisome that a fire needs to be lit regarding a 4th rd rookie's work ethic. The terms "soft" & "immature" comes to mind. Hope they turn him in the right direction. Regarding PFF, the Cards admit to lacking any kind of DLine depth & he was adequate vs Jax. Coaching is what's gonna save this kid's bacon.

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