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SmashMouth 08-26-2018 12:52 AM

The WR depth chart is written in chalk
 
It looked done.

Maybe done is too strong of a word, but it was close. Until Saturday night, no one had ever considered the possibility that someone other than Michael Thomas, Cam Meredith, Ted Ginn Jr. or Tre’Quan Smith would lock down one of the top four receiver spots.

Then Saturday came, and Austin Carr was playing with ht first team against Los Angeles Chargers. It didn’t mean anything, right? Sometimes the coaching staff likes to do things as an experiment or to work a specific situation, sort of like running a draw play to Mark Ingram on third-and-7 like they did Saturday night.

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“The depth chart is written in chalk,” coach Sean Payton said when asked if the battle at wide receiver is ongoing. “It’s not permanent ink.”

So, after talking a week ago about how the play at wide receiver has been underwhelming and lamenting the mistakes made by those players, Payton let the group know nothing is promised to any of them.

Does that mean that someone other than the presumed four will be at the top of the rotation? The fact this topic has come up after each of the last two games, it feels like this is now a little more serious than using the media as a motivational tactic. It seems like Payton and his staff really are evaluating all options.

Now, smart money says the presumed four guys figure out whatever they need to figure out and lock down the jobs, but this isn’t a good year to be slipping up at wide receiver (or, really, any number of positions). There is a lot of talent at the position and someone like Carr, who stuck around for a whole season despite not making any meaningful contributions, has been waiting all summer for an opportunity to show what he can do. When he got it, he stepped up and caught three passes for 38 yards.

In some regards, this group of receivers is deeper than most seasons. Drew Brees said after the game that he sees seven or eight players who deserve to make the team. At best, that number shouldn’t exceed six, and some years it has been as low as four.

And there is something to be said for experience, which is something Carr possesses and only helps his cause.

“I feel like there are some guys who have been in the system a little bit and maybe they have two years of practice squad experience under their belt or a year of playing in a limited role,” Brees said. “Bottom line is that they have a couple years in our system and they become more confident and have more of a comfort level, not just in the system but with me.

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Carr may have made the team tonight.

The Dude 08-26-2018 01:27 AM

Re: The WR depth chart is written in chalk
 
Lewis is going to be hard to cut too. I can see Merideth not make the team.

Rugby Saint II 08-28-2018 02:01 PM

Re: The WR depth chart is written in chalk
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 809466)
Lewis is going to be hard to cut too. I can see Merideth not make the team.

Meredith is being brought along slowly and Payton likes him. I believe he'll be fine. TLL is probably on his way out with Boston Scott filling the mighty mouse role. Austin Carr is making a strong case for a roster spot and is going to make cut downs super difficult at WR. 5 or 6? :popcorn:

K Major 08-28-2018 02:46 PM

Re: The WR depth chart is written in chalk
 
Speaking of WR ... anyone notice that Keith Kirkwood didn't play against the Chargers? I don't believe he was injured.

Will the Saints try to stash him on the practice squad?

Beastmode 08-28-2018 02:59 PM

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Either way we are better at WR than last year. Rest of the Division I don't see much improvement.

rezburna 08-28-2018 03:38 PM

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The board is sleeping on Meredith. Watch him once he gets healthy.

K Major 08-28-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 809806)
The board is sleeping on Meredith. Watch him once he gets healthy.

Except me brother ;).

He's still warming up to game speed. His ACL/MCL tear was severe. Those Adrian Peterson type returns to beast mode in 10 months aren't normal.

You have to be patient with Meredith.

Beastmode 08-28-2018 03:47 PM

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Meredith not doing himself any favors. He's buried deep right now. I could see him being relevant 3/4 into the season when teams have wrote him off.

rezburna 08-28-2018 04:07 PM

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He was brought here to be a slot receiver. He’s meant to be a 3. He’s not buried behind anybody. Ginn isn’t a slot. Tre’Quan Smith could possibly do it, but he’s primarily being pushed to replace Ginn as the 2. Austin Carr is preseason hype. Meredith was brought in here for a specific role. His position in the offense is set. They’re just waiting for him to get healthy.

frydaddy 08-28-2018 04:37 PM

Re: The WR depth chart is written in chalk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 809810)
He was brought here to be a slot receiver. He’s meant to be a 3. He’s not buried behind anybody. Ginn isn’t a slot. Tre’Quan Smith could possibly do it, but he’s primarily being pushed to replace Ginn as the 2. Austin Carr is preseason hype. Meredith was brought in here for a specific role. His position in the offense is set. They’re just waiting for him to get healthy.

Agreed. I think Teddy G is in more danger of being the odd man out. Once Cam is healthy and settled in I think he'll be a clear upgrade from Snead. No disrespect to slick Willie, but he's not the matchup problem CM can be.

Beastmode 08-28-2018 05:30 PM

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He has not had a good camp or PS. Writing is on the wall for CM right now. He will not be the slot on opening day I know that much. He will be riding the bench for a while.

AsylumGuido 08-29-2018 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 809818)
He has not had a good camp or PS. Writing is on the wall for CM right now. He will not be the slot on opening day I know that much. He will be riding the bench for a while.

So, did you get all of this inside information from Payton over beers again or is something only written on your wall?

You have no clue about who's going to be in the slot, opening day or whenever. You have no clue about who will be riding the bench or not. :rolleyes:

Beastmode 08-29-2018 10:25 AM

Re: The WR depth chart is written in chalk
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 809894)
So, did you get all of this inside information from Payton over beers again or is something only written on your wall?

You have no clue about who's going to be in the slot, opening day or whenever. You have no clue about who will be riding the bench or not. :rolleyes:




Tre'Quan Smith totally sucks. So does Carr. We might not even have a slot at this point. Maybe we go slotless?

turbo_dog 08-29-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 809796)
Meredith is being brought along slowly and Payton likes him. I believe he'll be fine. TLL is probably on his way out with Boston Scott filling the mighty mouse role. Austin Carr is making a strong case for a roster spot and is going to make cut downs super difficult at WR. 5 or 6? :popcorn:

I can't agree with this. The flea continues to make plays in the passing game, and in special teams. More likely that Shane Vareen is out because of Boston Scott. At least they play the same position.

K Major 08-29-2018 12:18 PM

Re: The WR depth chart is written in chalk
 
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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 809934)
I can't agree with this. The flea continues to make plays in the passing game, and in special teams.

Hmm ... I guess we shall find out his fate soon enough.

Tommy has always looked good with the 2's & 3's. For me, his bigger concern is that he's simply not impressive on punt returns. I would "lock" him in IF he had done a better job on returns in pre season. If I was a fly in the room ... I would bet that's a major talking point & reason he gets cut.

The 6th guy (Tate) usually gets the nod, based on kick off/punt returns alone.

Cruize 08-29-2018 05:25 PM

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Thomas, Smith and Carr are a GREAT young group. Throw in Kirkwood next year. The future is bright for the future QB.


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