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K Major 08-27-2018 08:44 AM
Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 809616)
Chargers O line is near the top of the NFL. 18 sacks last season. They absolutely man-handled our d line in Q1.

I read Payton complain about linebacker play but our interior was atrocious.
Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler.

Rugby Saint II 08-27-2018 02:59 PM
Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 809617)
Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler.
Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me.

blackangold 08-27-2018 03:10 PM
Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 809658)
Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me.
We can toss Rankins in to the mix here as well. He did no better than the others, but I really saw the problem with Hendrickson at DE. Trey was getting blocked out by TEs. He may be ok rushing the passer, but he is awful against the run.

K Major 08-27-2018 03:20 PM
Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 809661)
We can toss Rankins in to the mix here as well. He did no better than the others, but I really saw the problem with Hendrickson at DE. Trey was getting blocked out by TEs. He may be ok rushing the passer, but he is awful against the run.
Trey seems to be better on the left side vs right end. It appears the coaching staff experimented on the right against the Chargers and he had a tough time. However he's played extremely well on the LEFT <--- all of camp and subsequent games.

In saying all of that, Davenport is the future at the right defensive end :p.

Barry from MS 08-27-2018 04:57 PM
Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 809617)
Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler.
The Chargers interior O Line is a beast. They chewed up Rankins, Onyemata & Davison and spit them out. Hopefully they learn from this beatdown. Hard to put too much blame on LBs when there's so many running lanes in the line. We have to stay sub 4 yds/carry, preferably sub 3 yds/carry for my liking.

K Major 08-27-2018 05:00 PM
Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations
 
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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 809675)
The Chargers interior O Line is a beast. They chewed up Rankins, Onyemata & Davison and spit them out.
I didn't realize how stout they were up front. That is a strength for the Chargers however our LB play has been average at best thus far. We must do better as a group.

jeanpierre 08-27-2018 05:00 PM
Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 809658)
Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me.
We used a third and fourth round picks to move up for Vonn Bell at the end of the second, so we had to trade two picks to get back into the fourth to take Onyemata...

Davison was a straight-up fifth round pick...

Our best front-line looks like Jordan-Onyemata-Bromley-Davenport and on passing downs Hendrickson-Jordan-Onyemata-Davenport...

Rell&Gold 08-27-2018 06:15 PM
Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations
 
Trey can rush the passer he isn't Stout against the run...alot this first quarter runs by the first team were to his side...a couple times he got blocked by TE's

Barry from MS 08-27-2018 06:33 PM
Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 809677)

Our best front-line looks like Jordan-Onyemata-Bromley-Davenport and on passing downs Hendrickson-Jordan-Onyemata-Davenport...
Ouch...no Rankins. But Onyemata has passed him. I love the potential of Lawrence, Stallworth & Loewen to develop.

The Dude 08-27-2018 08:38 PM
Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 809488)
Just a thought, but last night when Brees threw the ball up for the early interception, I turned to friends and said "Brees probably did it for film to show Ginn was out of position, again..."

Payton rarely calls out individual players and that still bouncing around in my thoughts...
Oh. You’re one of THOSE guys.
Bet you are a lot of fun to watch a game with.

Maybe Brees did it to signal the location of JFKs mystery shooter. Or maybe the location of where Elvis lives after faking his own death


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