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SmashMouth 09-09-2018 03:32 PM

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Post game video feed.

rezburna 09-09-2018 03:33 PM

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I’m pleased with how explosive this offense is. They kept bringing up a 3rd receiver. We have one. His name is Kamara. I also liked what Watson did today. This L is solely on the defense.

voodooido 09-09-2018 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 811871)
Yeah the play of the secondary was atrocious. Of course that wasn't helped at all by the complete lack of a pass rush. They'd better get **** right fast or its gonna be a long and miserable season.

Proud of the offense for never giving up. Shame about the 2 fumbles, we might've pulled it off if not for those.

I think the pass rush was affected by the BS flags. I’ve never thought the NFL would become tag instead of tackle

K Major 09-09-2018 04:00 PM

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Cleveland (our next opponent) game ends in a tie vs Pittsburgh.

This won't be a easy game either.

SmashMouth 09-09-2018 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 811890)
Cleveland (our next opponent) game ends in a tie vs Pittsburgh.

This won't be a easy game either.

Is the AFC East the best division in football now ?

gulfgambler 09-09-2018 04:03 PM

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After week 1, Saints become the most over hyped, over ranked team in NFL!

Thirty3 09-09-2018 04:18 PM

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I would hate to be the Saints opponent next game.

Barry from MS 09-09-2018 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gulfgambler (Post 811895)
After week 1, Saints become the most over hyped, over ranked team in NFL!

Good thing this isn't the NCAA playoff system. We'd have to fold the tents after this turd knowing the Bucs aren't really that good.

Of course, that means we're even worse since we are what our record is.

Gotta rebound and get that winning percentage up instead of those bright shiny offensive stats.

Rsanders24 09-09-2018 05:16 PM

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There's to downsides to this...one...we may never see Winston again this season and the fact that it was a divisional game....man...that's like two losses.

I hate the preseason even more now...

jeanpierre 09-09-2018 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 811880)
I think the pass rush was affected by the BS flags. I’ve never thought the NFL would become tag instead of tackle

What Pass Rush? It wasn't there. Might be time to publicly berate Dennis Allen, maybe even question if he's the right coordinator. He was a disaster in Oaktown...

Hats off to the Bucs coaching staff; I'd just told friends who I was with for the game that Tampa was stupid to put Dirk Koetter on the hot seat - he's a good coach...

Problem with Tampa was that jackhole quarterback, Jamesis, and today showed that was the case...

Dennis Allen and DeMario Davis should donate their paychecks for the effort we saw today...

And Sean Payton should surrender all personnel power as Gillislee and Williams should've been left on the trash heap...

We cut three talented draft picks because Payton is lazy when it comes to put in the extra time coaching up rookies...

ChrisXVI 09-09-2018 05:25 PM

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It’s just the same old stuff. Losing games we have no business losing only to do just enough to get into the playoffs and end up choking in spectacular fashion a la Beastquake, Vernon Davis and the Minneapolis Miracle.

Saint in Aus 09-09-2018 07:33 PM

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We have a tough run this year. We cannot afford to drop games like this. Extremely disappointing. Gutted.

spkb25 09-09-2018 07:40 PM

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I am in DRP, didn't see the game. How bad we're the d tackles and how bad is shankins? Again I'm asking because I did not get to see it and I'm just assuming they were terrible

SmashMouth 09-09-2018 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 811973)
I am in DRP, didn't see the game. How bad we're the d tackles and how bad is shankins? Again I'm asking because I did not get to see it and I'm just assuming they were terrible

You could've streamed.... we all do this. :bng:

saintfan 09-09-2018 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 811973)
I am in DRP, didn't see the game. How bad we're the d tackles and how bad is shankins? Again I'm asking because I did not get to see it and I'm just assuming they were terrible

It was turrible. Just turrible.

jeanpierre 09-09-2018 08:59 PM

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Common thread with these defensive failures since 2015 - Sean Payton, Dennis Allen, Mickey Loomis...

frydaddy 09-09-2018 09:01 PM

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I kept expecting the nightmare to end and it just got worse as it went along. Every man on defense needs to search their soul over the next few days and decide where they stand. All of the physical talent is there, but there was no fire out of anyone on that side of the ball today. They laid down and let themselves be walked on. I hope it hurts like hell, hope they don't sleep well tonight. Its gut check time, right f***in now. Either right the ship or blow the whole damn thing up. I want to believe they have it in them. So, for now I do. Onto the Browns and the first step on the revenge tour.

K Major 09-09-2018 09:03 PM

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Week to week league.

Saints will clean this up on D.

saintfan 09-09-2018 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 811995)
Week to week league.

Saints will clean this up on D.

I sure hope so. I mean, for the love of Pete we can't play much worse.

voodooido 09-09-2018 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 811933)
What Pass Rush? It wasn't there. Might be time to publicly berate Dennis Allen, maybe even question if he's the right coordinator. He was a disaster in Oaktown...

Hats off to the Bucs coaching staff; I'd just told friends who I was with for the game that Tampa was stupid to put Dirk Koetter on the hot seat - he's a good coach...

Problem with Tampa was that jackhole quarterback, Jamesis, and today showed that was the case...

Dennis Allen and DeMario Davis should donate their paychecks for the effort we saw today...

And Sean Payton should surrender all personnel power as Gillislee and Williams should've been left on the trash heap...

We cut three talented draft picks because Payton is lazy when it comes to put in the extra time coaching up rookies...

I was talking about all the “late hits” or “roughing the passer” calls midway through the game. All the bs pass interference calls. A lot of calls that affect the way you play.

A.8Manning 09-10-2018 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 811994)
I kept expecting the nightmare to end and it just got worse as it went along. Every man on defense needs to search their soul over the next few days and decide where they stand. All of the physical talent is there, but there was no fire out of anyone on that side of the ball today. They laid down and let themselves be walked on. I hope it hurts like hell, hope they don't sleep well tonight. Its gut check time, right f***in now. Either right the ship or blow the whole damn thing up. I want to believe they have it in them. So, for now I do. Onto the Browns and the first step on the revenge tour.

players get 6 and 7 digits to play a game. They dont care if they win or lose.
if it were real,players would be getting cut at a faster rate each year. This was staged. No way in hell the Bucs had a remote chance..no way in hell they can score that much. You'd think fans would learn this after the playoff game last year. Sports is entertainment,not competition. Saints took a dive to end last year and to start this year

frydaddy 09-10-2018 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 812060)
players get 6 and 7 digits to play a game. They dont care if they win or lose.
if it were real,players would be getting cut at a faster rate each year. This was staged. No way in hell the Bucs had a remote chance..no way in hell they can score that much. You'd think fans would learn this after the playoff game last year. Sports is entertainment,not competition. Saints took a dive to end last year and to start this year

Oh good lord here come the conspiracy theorists. That's the worst thing about a loss like this, brings out all the crazies.

It was a bad day, everyone has them. Just so happens that our entire starting defense all had one at the same time. As others have said, I blame the coaches. Too many guys being played at new positions, too many starting because of how much they're getting paid or their draft status instead of their merit. This was a reality check. I believe they'll clean it up.

saintsfan1976 09-10-2018 10:13 AM

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They say football is a game of inches.

Our defense was 2 feet behind all day.

D line was owned. LBs were slow. Secondary looked lost.

I’m eager to see how we bounce back, facing our home crowd again and a hungry Browns team.

A.8Manning 09-10-2018 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 812079)
Oh good lord here come the conspiracy theorists. That's the worst thing about a loss like this, brings out all the crazies.

It was a bad day, everyone has them. Just so happens that our entire starting defense all had one at the same time. As others have said, I blame the coaches. Too many guys being played at new positions, too many starting because of how much they're getting paid or their draft status instead of their merit. This was a reality check. I believe they'll clean it up.

Dude, one day you'll stop watching sports like the kid you once were. It's got nothing to do with liking the Saints or not.The Packers game was just as hilarious a cliche movie. Star player who was worshipped all pregame show and has multiple commercials during game is allegedly injured but comes back in second half to save the day lol..it's so obvious now. So very,very obvious. The crazy people are the one's who think they are watching a natural competition. It's entertainment. It's a show.

Garry42 09-10-2018 03:42 PM

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I can only hope this comment is meant to be comedy! If not.....I'm completely lost!
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Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 812153)
Dude, one day you'll stop watching sports like the kid you once were. It's got nothing to do with liking the Saints or not.The Packers game was just as hilarious a cliche movie. Star player who was worshipped all pregame show and has multiple commercials during game is allegedly injured but comes back in second half to save the day lol..it's so obvious now. So very,very obvious. The crazy people are the one's who think they are watching a natural competition. It's entertainment. It's a show.

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A.8Manning 09-10-2018 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Garry42 (Post 812163)
I can only hope this comment is meant to be comedy! If not.....I'm completely lost!

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No, it's called critical thinking skills and not believing lies anymore. Not comedy..although last night's Packers game was hilarious. Surely not all 100% percent of you here think you are still watching a natural competition. There have to be some people with actual wisdom here,I would hope.
The Saints went to a SB one lousy time..and only after spending so much to rebuild the Superdome. They needed the profit back for that. It had nothing to do with being a better team. Win and people spend money..fans are just puppets on a string. But I'll leave it alone for now.its amazing how people act like their mother is being stabbed just because they are talking about a game on tv that has nothing to do with them..it's entertainment.it has nothing to do with you. Win or lose and it won't change your life.dont take it personal

ChrisXVI 09-10-2018 04:20 PM

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Does anybody have access to the PFF grades from this game? For some reason PFF doesn’t give any grades with their little game recaps anymore.

I know they aren’t gospel or anything but I’m curious.

Garry42 09-10-2018 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 812169)
No, it's called critical thinking skills and not believing lies anymore. Not comedy..although last night's Packers game was hilarious. Surely not all 100% percent of you here think you are still watching a natural competition. There have to be some people with actual wisdom here,I would hope.
The Saints went to a SB one lousy time..and only after spending so much to rebuild the Superdome. They needed the profit back for that. It had nothing to do with being a better team. Win and people spend money..fans are just puppets on a string. But I'll leave it alone for now.its amazing how people act like their mother is being stabbed just because they are talking about a game on tv that has nothing to do with them..it's entertainment.it has nothing to do with you. Win or lose and it won't change your life.dont take it personal

Ummm....OK. Have a nice day!

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K Major 09-10-2018 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 812170)
Does anybody have access to the PFF grades from this game? For some reason PFF doesn’t give any grades with their little game recaps anymore.

I know they aren’t gospel or anything but I’m curious.

Having issues embedding ... one second please.

K Major 09-10-2018 04:36 PM

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Secondary Player grades - Game #1 vs Bucs

FS - Williams (40.5) - graded as poor
SS - Coleman (63.1) - graded as avg
CB - Lattimore (44.8) - graded as below avg
CB - Crawley ( 39.0) - graded what the hell are you doing ..jk (below avg)

K Major 09-10-2018 04:38 PM

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Player grades - Linebackers

WILL - Davis (62.8) avg (that's fair)
MIKE - Teo - (90.2) graded as elite
SAM - Klein (62.8) avg

frydaddy 09-10-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 812169)
No, it's called critical thinking skills and not believing lies anymore. Not comedy..although last night's Packers game was hilarious. Surely not all 100% percent of you here think you are still watching a natural competition. There have to be some people with actual wisdom here,I would hope.
The Saints went to a SB one lousy time..and only after spending so much to rebuild the Superdome. They needed the profit back for that. It had nothing to do with being a better team. Win and people spend money..fans are just puppets on a string. But I'll leave it alone for now.its amazing how people act like their mother is being stabbed just because they are talking about a game on tv that has nothing to do with them..it's entertainment.it has nothing to do with you. Win or lose and it won't change your life.dont take it personal

It must take an incredible amount of faith to believe that someone would go through all the time and effort it would take to script these games but still make them "believable." I mean pro wrestling is all scripted and probably takes an incredible amount of effort and it's nowhere even close to believable. And they still make a ton of money at it. So why would the NFL bother with making the games seem realistic (which is where the real time and effort would have to come in) when wrestling proves that it's not necessary to do so? You're entitled to your opinion of course, but don't tell me I'm not wise enough to see the truth when wisdom doesn't even support your theory.

K Major 09-10-2018 04:45 PM

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XVI,

Hope to have embedded PFF illustrations/graphs/grades for game #2 ;).

AsylumGuido 09-10-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 812060)
players get 6 and 7 digits to play a game. They dont care if they win or lose.
if it were real,players would be getting cut at a faster rate each year. This was staged. No way in hell the Bucs had a remote chance..no way in hell they can score that much. You'd think fans would learn this after the playoff game last year. Sports is entertainment,not competition. Saints took a dive to end last year and to start this year

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Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 812153)
Dude, one day you'll stop watching sports like the kid you once were. It's got nothing to do with liking the Saints or not.The Packers game was just as hilarious a cliche movie. Star player who was worshipped all pregame show and has multiple commercials during game is allegedly injured but comes back in second half to save the day lol..it's so obvious now. So very,very obvious. The crazy people are the one's who think they are watching a natural competition. It's entertainment. It's a show.

Wow! This guy makes Will(Insert Team Name Here)81 seem halfway normal.

:clown:

ChrisXVI 09-10-2018 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 812174)
Player grades - Linebackers

WILL - Davis (62.8) avg (that's fair)
MIKE - Teo - (90.2) graded as elite
SAM - Klein (62.8) avg

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 812173)
Secondary Player grades - Game #1 vs Bucs

FS - Williams (40.5) - graded as poor
SS - Coleman (63.1) - graded as avg
CB - Lattimore (44.8) - graded as below avg
CB - Crawley ( 39.0) - graded what the hell are you doing ..jk (below avg)

Yeah that’s about right. Thanks K!

AsylumGuido 09-10-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 812178)
Player grades - Linebackers

WILL - Davis (62.8) avg (that's fair)
MIKE - Teo - (90.2) graded as elite
SAM - Klein (62.8) avg
Originally Posted by K Major View Post
Secondary Player grades - Game #1 vs Bucs

FS - Williams (40.5) - graded as poor
SS - Coleman (63.1) - graded as avg
CB - Lattimore (44.8) - graded as below avg
CB - Crawley ( 39.0) - graded what the hell are you doing ..jk (below avg)

What I see from this is that Te'o, while not getting the respect, is all heart and comes through when needed. And that Coleman showed why he was added to the very young secondary. He is able to be as solid as possible when things appear to be going south. Your younger, less experienced players will overreact, if not all out panic.

A.8Manning 09-13-2018 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 812175)
It must take an incredible amount of faith to believe that someone would go through all the time and effort it would take to script these games but still make them "believable." I mean pro wrestling is all scripted and probably takes an incredible amount of effort and it's nowhere even close to believable. And they still make a ton of money at it. So why would the NFL bother with making the games seem realistic (which is where the real time and effort would have to come in) when wrestling proves that it's not necessary to do so? You're entitled to your opinion of course, but don't tell me I'm not wise enough to see the truth when wisdom doesn't even support your theory.

. common sense tells you that in the real world games dont keep coming down to the final play/drive/shot etc.. every weekend.. and yet it keeps happening..no ones real life is that exciting. Only when you turn on tv.
you believe and hope wisdom doesnt support my theory. you dont actually know it doesnt. You cant prove me wrong.. you only 'believe' that since a majority agree with you and not me.. that you must be right.
who won the Packers game? the good looking guy in all the commercials and the famous girlfriend, did. The guy they spent 30 minutes on before the game started. its a tv show,he's the lead actor. It was all fake and artificial drama.
why arent the best players ugly guys, since ugly people outnumber good looking people nation/world wide? how come the stars are usually better, literate speakers in interviews? theres 40 guys on a team and they only talk to 4 of them all the time. Its because they are trained in what to say and how to say it. they are hand picked, they didnt earn their spot.
people just choose not to think when they turn on tv.

AsylumGuido 09-13-2018 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 812634)
. common sense tells you that in the real world games dont keep coming down to the final play/drive/shot etc.. every weekend.. and yet it keeps happening..no ones real life is that exciting. Only when you turn on tv.
you believe and hope wisdom doesnt support my theory. you dont actually know it doesnt. You cant prove me wrong.. you only 'believe' that since a majority agree with you and not me.. that you must be right.
who won the Packers game? the good looking guy in all the commercials and the famous girlfriend, did. The guy they spent 30 minutes on before the game started. its a tv show,he's the lead actor. It was all fake and artificial drama.
why arent the best players ugly guys, since ugly people outnumber good looking people nation/world wide? how come the stars are usually better, literate speakers in interviews? theres 40 guys on a team and they only talk to 4 of them all the time. Its because they are trained in what to say and how to say it. they are hand picked, they didnt earn their spot.
people just choose not to think when they turn on tv.

:nuts::crazy:

jeanpierre 09-14-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 812174)
Player grades - Linebackers

WILL - Davis (62.8) avg (that's fair)
MIKE - Teo - (90.2) graded as elite
SAM - Klein (62.8) avg

So Davis and Klein had the same grades?

So essentially, one sucked balls as much as the other?

jeanpierre 09-14-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 812173)
Secondary Player grades - Game #1 vs Bucs

FS - Williams (40.5) - graded as poor
SS - Coleman (63.1) - graded as avg
CB - Lattimore (44.8) - graded as below avg
CB - Crawley ( 39.0) - graded what the hell are you doing ..jk (below avg)

Hey, don't forget Patrick Robinson - 71.8! At least we spent some money wisely!!!


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