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After all of this, my purpose for posting this article was to show that dialog is being opened between the NFL owners and others (Goodell, etc.) and the community of which the protesting players represent.

This is a good positive move. A baby step. I was impressed that Gayle Benson donated office space, on the fly, in Benson Tower for a very useful purpose. Another baby step. Hopefully more impactful and meaningful steps will come.

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Because he agrees with you? Lol. Get a room you two. I wasnt making a judgement of his character. I don't know him well enough to do so, I highly doubt you do either. I was simply pointing out the irony in his statement.

Anyway, I return to my original statement. Just don't commit crimes. Regardless of your color, gender, etc. Best way to avoid any possibility of bias. And before anyone tries to tell me I don't understand the struggle or some such BS, stop. I understand struggle better than most. I live paycheck to paycheck trying to support myself, my wife and our 7 children. I have no savings, no rainy day fund. When things go wrong, as they often do, I don't have the money to fix them. Currently there are a number of things in my home that need to be fixed, some not so serious, some quite serious. I can't afford to do anything about any of them. I live in an area where if you don't have a college degree (I don't) then your only option for making pretty good money is working offshore. Due to several physical conditions I suffer from, as well as an anxiety disorder that cripples me in other ways, working offshore isn't an option for me. The thought of doing something illegal to make some quick money crosses my mind more frequently than I care to admit. It's hard not to think about it. I look at my family, and I think of all the things they deserve that I can't provide and it makes me desperate. I look at all the broken **** in my house and think if I don't get something done about that soon its gonna get worse, and I get desperate. But for all my depression and desperation I have never, and will never let those thoughts become reality. As tempting as it is, and as easy as it would be to make money illegally, I refuse to allow myself to do any of it. So I don't feel sympathy for people who choose to break the law and then have to suffer the consequences. I have as much reason, and probably more to go down the same path, I choose not to.

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We're Facebook friends. We talk pretty often. He definitely doesn't agree with me all the time though. He's a great guy because he's a great guy. Simple.

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The feeling is mutual.

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I can't disagree with anything you said and wish you the very best, fry.

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Cool. I'll take your word on it. Again, to be clear, I never suggested he's a bad guy.

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I appreciate that.

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So let's hope this posts. Gotta start em early.

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Btw, thank you gents for the well wishes. Much appreciated

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Kids are great and also a constant source of pride and worry for as long as you live. Mine are now 25 and 27.

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I wish we had a LOVE choice. Congrats, spk!

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Now this is just my opinion. but a lot of crimes are committed by people with little to no education that grew up with limited opportunities. Either because their parents didn't prepare them or the school system couldn't make them conform long enough to learn something.

Unfortunately, the white people after slavery tried to keep the black man down by not educating him and trying to force him onto a lesser role in society. Whites and blacks both commit crimes and whoever is the least educated with fewer opportunities will likely result to crime and then have to pay the price.

I've been arrested before but I made a good appearance in court with my own attorney that I paid for by hard work while wearing a suit.....not a tank top and pants that I'm holding up with one hand. It paid off and I won, but it wasn't because I was white and had more money than the rest of the defendants in court that day!

I was better educated and better prepared to stand before a judge and let the system apply blind justice. Justice isn't blind to disrespectful or angry defendants standing in front of a judge. There are black judges too you know! My judge was a black female!


This crap that we don't all get a fair fair shake is slanted!!! :argue:

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Congrats spkb!!

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That's one beautiful Saints jersey .... I mean baby :p !!

Congrats Mr. Spkb25 !

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Congratulations buddy! First child? Got a 4 year old and twin 2 year olds myself. There will be plenty of ups and downs but being a dad is the greatest thing in the world! Feel free to message me if things get stressful and you just need to vent.

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This one is easy. There is more of a police presence in known black neighborhoods because it is these neighborhoods that have the most crime. Think between MLK Blvd and Louisiana Ave and also the Hollygrove area, the 7th ward. How many white people will be in these areas? I am not gonna argue about anywhere else because I don't live there. And I agree that the sentencing should be the same. But there is no denying in New Orleans that more black people commit crimes, than white people.

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LOL...guy writes a paragraph and all you respond to is how much man love you have for Guido. So no comment on his struggle? Is his struggle different because he is white? Didn't want to touch any of that huh...figures.

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Congratulations spkb25, nice to see the Who Dat legacy live on..

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I haven’t replied until now because of that first paragraph.
The media is fueling the racial divide by continuing to structure their stories like this. Hey at least they were all shackled. Could you imagine what would happen if the 8 black guys were in for violent crimes and shackled while the two others were picket up on a bench warrant for traffic violations and unshackled?

Pretty soon jail is going to be outlawed because of its parallels to slavery.

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I’ve spoken to him about his struggle in private. He didn’t say anything that he hasn’t already told me before. Again, shoutout to Guido though.

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Do Black people commit more crime, or are they just arrested more often? The data explicitly shows that White people use and distribute drugs at the same rates or more, but the police aren’t in those neighborhoods looking to lock them up. There’s data that shows searching the car of a White person is more likely to result in a drug hit than searching the car of a Black person, but Black people are searched FAR more often. I’ve lived in the hood. I’ve lived in the suburbs. I saw more drug usage and distribution in the suburbs. Thing is, my personal account wouldn’t mean much without the fact that the data actually supports what I saw.

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Are you kidding me? Why is the only thing you are harping on is drug possession? I'm talking REAL crimes. You know, theft, armed robery, homicides. How many white people do you see on the news committing these crimes? But go ahead and tell me its because the white people do the same crimes but just don't get caught lol.

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Most people are in jail for drug possession and distribution. That’s why the focus tends to be on those crimes. Jails aren’t filled with murderers and armed robbers. They’re filled with drug dealers and abusers. They make up nearly half of the prison population.

As far as seeing crime on the news, something I don’t watch, you should mostly see White people committing them because of the stark difference in population. They account for 70% of the crime, 8% higher than their current population if you choose to remove White, Hispanics. So I’d have to ask you why you don’t see them all over the news for committing various crimes. True, the Black community commits a lot of crime in comparison to its population, but they’re also a lot poorer in comparison to their population as well. All criminologists tie crime and poverty together...as have the members of this forum.

So again, if nearly 3 out of every 4 crimes is committed by somebody White based on sheer numbers, why don’t you see it on the news more? White people are arrested more often for everything except homicide and robbery, but the difference in those arrests aren’t enough to explain the difference in the prison population. If the primary source of arrests in this country are drug distribution and abuse, why aren’t White neighborhoods targeted in the same fashion when the statistics show that you’re likely to find exactly what you’re looking for? Cops aren’t patrolling Black neighborhoods looking for robbers and murderers. They’re looking for drug dealers.

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Ok..I'm done with this conversation. Talking to a wall would be more productive. And don't worry, what you say is #asexpected. Whoa is me and my black race, we are all oppressed, the white people are always wrong no matter what. So save your comment for your boyfriend Guido. Maybe he strokes your ego the way you like.

And just for the record, you are doing EXACTLY what you claim everyone else is, you only look at it from your point of view. So good luck having an honest conversation and be willing to listen to other opinions.

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We have a horrible situation with our court system especially in New Orleans and Jefferson Parish also. Black or White are all being taken advantage of by the judicial system. They are looking for money and not really concerned about helping anybody. Many of these people need help but they are not providing anything for these people they just keep piling on the fines and making it impossible for some people that barely are making enough to stay alive. Greedy people are what they are. We have no social conscious or morality for our people. That's why we lock up more people than any country in this world. They get paid to lock you up.

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No bro, haven't you been pay attention, white people are treated with hugs and kisses, while the black people are shackled like slaves.

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I'm not ready to jump on the bus with the likes of Louis Farrakhan people like him black and white are the one's responsible for stirring the pot does anyone believe that man is carrying the cross for the black people in this country. He is as bad as any KKK people. And I am not such a political person but lets be clear here our system of justice is not built upon reform it is based on the almighty dollar.