Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

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Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

Now thats funny, He owns the NFL money. OMG

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

Just put a flag belt on the QB. Pull it off before he throws the ball, QB sack!

Jeesh...

Re: Two fines for roughing the passer cost Saints tackle David Onyemata more than Week 1 game check
 

His lunch money

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He will appeal it down to 50%

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Both hits looked really good to me. This is just pansy football.:roll:

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They are going too far with this BS.

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lets play tag the qb and the play is dead, no more tackling the highest payed in the game, brees can played into his 70 tees.

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Look at the Clay Matthews R.T.P. that cost them a win.

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And in my own humble opinion that was a textbook tackle. Like I said, change the rule. You cannot tackle the QB. Period. Also, the QB may not advance the ball beyond the LOS except via passing. If he's that important then fine, but make it fair. A 250+ pound grown man cannot violate physics to accommodate Rogers stupid rule.

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Onyemata is appealing the fines today. There is a stipulation in the CBA that states a player cannot be fined more than 25% of their weekly salary. He was fined in excess of $40k and his weekly salary is $39K plus change. He should be able to get the fines reduced.

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Not sure where the league is headed with these type of bogus calls. This isn't the game I remember from the early 90s.

It was a bad day for kickers in that Pack/Vikes game as well.

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The league is hell bent. As I'm sure you've heard they're actually going to use that horrible horrible call that cost GB the game as a textbook what not to do example. It was a textbook tackle. It's a joke, and the NFL isn't going to walk it back. My kids, if they watch football at all, may very well be watching a different league not filled with panzies.

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I was just listening to Moving the Chains with Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller. Miller went off big time on these horrible calls. He said this isn't football anymore and said that the fans are pissed and he is pissed by this ... he wanted to say bull**** so badly ... and then just said "BS".

And don't forget, Jim Miller was a QB.

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I follow Kurt Warner on Twitter and he said the same thing. Basically he said he is all for offense, but this isnt even fair anymore. The Matthews call was total BS, but the league is not backing off even a little bit. Dont know what the answer is, but they need to relax the current rules or just put flags on the QB's and receivers.


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Onyemata may be the first player forced to retire because he couldn’t afford to play in the NFL anymore.

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Exactly. Miller and Kirwan said the league is making up the rules as the games go on. Keep in mind, this is on a radio station OWNED by the NFL.

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Because of the NFL bullcrap.

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The NFL needs to chill on the QB contact rules. The helmet to helmet I get, excessively late hit I get, hitting a QB while he's sliding I get, but this "landing on the QB" and "picking up QB and driving him to the ground" and specific "target window" where you can hit a QB is just way too broad and the increased emphasis is ridiculous. If they are going to do all this then they need to also count two-hand touch on the QB as an automatic sack so the defense actually can do something again.

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Chilling isn't going to happen. The NFL realizes that there's only about 15 guys on the planet that can play the position well, and that almost everything that brings fans into the games revolve around them. I saw an interview with Von Miller yesterday where he points out that QBs need to be upright for the game to survive.

Defenders will learn new skills. And likely it'll look a lot like 2 handed touch. Sacks will likely turn into a combination of swatting the ball and shoving the QB off balance. The swat will ensure the ball cannot be delivered and hopefully cause a fumble and the shove to put the QB on his back and down without laying on him.

Welcome to the new NFL. When QBs are being paid nearly $35 million a year and teams are dead without them, this is the new reality.

SFIAH

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make the fines a percent of the salary and see how quickly you see a difference

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Do you really want to make defenders hurt? Make it a percentage of the QB's salary. Then QB's will never get touched again.

SFIAH

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We all get it but the "new rule" & the application of it stinks. At the end of the day, I guess the league got what they wanted. Allow a star QB another chance during the 2 minute drill with everything on the line.

The new NFL needs to admit Matthews hit on Cousins was legal and move on.

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Instead they're using it as an example of what not to do. In other words, please do not tackle the QB.

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I know it seems like I'm defending the rule. I don't really like it, but I understand where the NFL is coming from with it.

The official ruling is that it was a foul because Matthews picked him up. Any lifting of the QB is consider a precursor for driving the QB into the ground.

The whole process is dumb. QBs cannot be tackled legally in any real sense. Any action looking like a legit tackle comes across as driving into the ground. That's why the new QB "tackle" is going to be shoving. No lift. No full weight. No driving.

Again I believe the key is going to wrapping up the QBs arms so that no forward motion can occur. It's going to be a pin the arms and shove move.

I think this illustrates the type I'm talking about


SFIAH

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They should also make it an automatic "unsportsmanlike" penalty for a QB to start a fake slide.
I've seen it too many times where a QB will start to slide, defenders will start to pull up, then the QB abandons the slide, take two or three more steps, then slide for real.

Defenders will get heavily penalized for hitting a sliding QB, and a few QBs are exploiting that to gain yards unfairly.

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Meh ...

Defenders might as well greet a QB with a hug, kiss and a balloon, then gently lay him down on the ground :rolleyes:.

But it's the "new NFL & rules" & I get it.

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It truly is becoming awkward to play football. A couple of points come to mind, that there is a certain bit of risk vs. reward. When you decide football as your career path, you are paid a very fair wage but you also know you could be one snap away from a life changing play. Second point is while I agree with helmet to helmet it is really difficult to not put your weight on the QB and avoid injury to yourself by landing in an awkward fashion.