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Garry42 09-16-2018 02:59 PM

Re: Saints vs. Browns Game Day Thread
 
It was a win, but nothing to be proud of at all! This team has a lot of work ahead to be a SB contender. Hell, they dont even look like a playoff team right now! Sad...very sad!

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44Champs 09-16-2018 03:00 PM

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An ugly win is still a win. I'll take it.

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LivnaLieTimay 09-16-2018 03:01 PM

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While I'm happy we won this team has a TON of work to do. We were lucky the Browns kicker left 8 points on the board. I still take it but I hope this team realizes they gotta get much better..

ChrisXVI 09-16-2018 03:01 PM

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Pretty awful game but I guess I’ll take it.

K Major 09-16-2018 03:01 PM

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Gordon waived ... Hue won't be far behind.

Totally meltdown by the Brownies.

4 quarters though.

44Champs 09-16-2018 03:01 PM

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1st time in 5 years that we're not 0-2

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RailBoss 09-16-2018 03:02 PM

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Ingram back in two weeks...

ChrisXVI 09-16-2018 03:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 813169)
Ingram back in two weeks...

Thank God! We miss him big time. The offense just seems like it’s missing something.

SASaintsfan 09-16-2018 03:09 PM

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Definitely think we miss Ingram’s intensity

Rell&Gold 09-16-2018 03:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay (Post 813124)
How does a guy get a free path to the QB when you know they're blitzing and where it's coming from.

Drew called the blitz out and everything before the snap

Rell&Gold 09-16-2018 03:12 PM

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We left points on the board as well so I'm not sold about the lucky Saints Browns are lucky too and they gave them BS call on Prob

K Major 09-16-2018 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 813169)
Ingram back in two weeks...

But some fans and posters thought it would be better to try and trade him since Boston was balling vs 3rd and 4th stringers in the pre season :rolleyes:.

Week 5 can't get here soon enough.

gulfgambler 09-16-2018 03:25 PM

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Don't know
the last time I felt this bad after a win?

dizzle88 09-16-2018 03:27 PM

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Cam Jordan has been invisible.

And Crawley, how do you allow a 47 yard TD on 4th and 5? Seriously, our CB's are awful this year.

No way did we deserve that win and it feels like a loss.

brees84 09-16-2018 03:36 PM

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Dennis Allen vs 4th down/3rd and long/last minute drives... Wow. Just wow.

dizzle88 09-16-2018 04:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 813189)
Dennis Allen vs 4th down/3rd and long/last minute drives... Wow. Just wow.

They have learned nothing from Minnesota, absolutely nothing. No one defending the sideline, receivers running free for 25 yards on first down.

I just don't understand how Jekyll and Hyde we are. Defense held admirably all game, offense finally comes alive and D nearly blows it with a minute to go.

ChrisXVI 09-16-2018 04:30 PM

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From PFF...

ANALYST TAKEAWAYS

Saints

Drew Brees struggled on every deep pass in the game, to the point where he was badly underthrowing wide open receivers. The Saints offense looks out of sync at the minute, and the chemistry between Brees and his pass-catchers needs serious improvement going forward.

If not for wide receiver Michael Thomas, the Saints passing game would have been completely inept. Thomas managed 12 receptions for two scores and accounted for 89 of Brees’ passing yards.

Rookie defensive end Marcus Davenport showed some promise against rookie left tackle Desmond Harrison. Davenport may not have been on the field for a lot of snaps, but was able to show some ability to rush the passer. The question going forward will be how he does against better competition.

Linebacker Demario Davis was all over the field in run defense for the Saints, consistently making tackles and shooting gaps. He was a force to be reckoned with up front and refused to allow the Browns rushing attack to get going.

Browns

Quarterback Tyrod Taylor threw one of the best passes of the week to bring the Browns level late in the fourth quarter. However, the Browns passing attack was a dink and dunk over the middle of the field for the majority of the game.

The Browns Offensive line was able to contain the Saints pass-rush for the duration, and the big guys up front were able to deal with anything the Saints threw at them.

The much-anticipated battle between Myles Garrett and Terron Armstead was a big disappointment. Garrett very rarely got the better of the veteran tackle and Garrett was a relative a non-factor as a pass-rusher.

The defense was able to stifle running back Alvin Kamara for the first three quarters by flowing quickly to the ball anytime he was tasked with a carry. While Kamara was able to force a missed tackle or two, there was always another two or three defenders on hand. In the fourth quarter, the Browns defense started to falter and allowed Kamra more room to operate, as he slowly took over the game and was able to move the chains.

Crusader 09-16-2018 04:35 PM

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The stats from the game says Jordan had 2 sacks but i can only remember seeing one?

rezburna 09-16-2018 04:44 PM

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I can’t wait for Ingram to come back.

ChrisXVI 09-16-2018 04:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 813214)
I can’t wait for Ingram to come back.

We all love Kamara, but that 3.6 YPC he’s averaging so far this season isn’t going to silence those who say he isn’t a lead back.

Rugby Saint II 09-16-2018 05:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 813223)
We all love Kamara, but that 3.6 YPC he’s averaging so far this season isn’t going to silence those who say he isn’t a lead back.

Yeah.....we need a real running back :wink:

mapcow 09-16-2018 05:45 PM

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Recorded the game to watch after 3:00... wow...

Am I to see this as a legitimate win; or rather; the Browns sucked more than the saints did..... thinking the latter.

Garry42 09-16-2018 06:02 PM

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The latter is correct....but, a win is a win. Let's just go with that! :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 813233)
Recorded the game to watch after 3:00... wow...

Am I to see this as a legitimate win; or rather; the Browns sucked more than the saints did..... thinking the latter.

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spkb25 09-16-2018 06:35 PM

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Well it's no less a legit win then a legit loss when the saints blow a game in similar fashion. They don't count style points.

That said, the real question is should you feel good about a win like this? The answer is a resounding no. We are 7-9 material the way we are playing.

jeanpierre 09-16-2018 10:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 813208)
From PFF...

ANALYST TAKEAWAYS

Saints

Drew Brees struggled on every deep pass in the game, to the point where he was badly underthrowing wide open receivers. The Saints offense looks out of sync at the minute, and the chemistry between Brees and his pass-catchers needs serious improvement going forward.

If not for wide receiver Michael Thomas, the Saints passing game would have been completely inept. Thomas managed 12 receptions for two scores and accounted for 89 of Brees’ passing yards.

Rookie defensive end Marcus Davenport showed some promise against rookie left tackle Desmond Harrison. Davenport may not have been on the field for a lot of snaps, but was able to show some ability to rush the passer. The question going forward will be how he does against better competition.

Linebacker Demario Davis was all over the field in run defense for the Saints, consistently making tackles and shooting gaps. He was a force to be reckoned with up front and refused to allow the Browns rushing attack to get going.

Browns

Quarterback Tyrod Taylor threw one of the best passes of the week to bring the Browns level late in the fourth quarter. However, the Browns passing attack was a dink and dunk over the middle of the field for the majority of the game.

The Browns Offensive line was able to contain the Saints pass-rush for the duration, and the big guys up front were able to deal with anything the Saints threw at them.

The much-anticipated battle between Myles Garrett and Terron Armstead was a big disappointment. Garrett very rarely got the better of the veteran tackle and Garrett was a relative a non-factor as a pass-rusher.

The defense was able to stifle running back Alvin Kamara for the first three quarters by flowing quickly to the ball anytime he was tasked with a carry. While Kamara was able to force a missed tackle or two, there was always another two or three defenders on hand. In the fourth quarter, the Browns defense started to falter and allowed Kamra more room to operate, as he slowly took over the game and was able to move the chains.

What The **** game were they watching?!?

Crew I watched with were complaining about his missed tackles, especially those that would have been for loss...

He lost containment on the edge several times...

Halo 09-16-2018 10:50 PM

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Uh, do what?
Demario Davis?

First of all, I think we've allowed tons of run yards so far this season AND I know we have zero pass rush. To allow Tyrod Taylor to stand flat footed in his backfield for 10 seconds to allow a play to develop is disgusting!

jeanpierre 09-16-2018 11:15 PM

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Class Act!


44Champs 09-16-2018 11:19 PM

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I thinks the D is missing Craig Robertson's intensity out there. Davis has been unimpressive.

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jeanpierre 09-16-2018 11:23 PM

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Jets have better linebacking play than they had with DeMario Davis, so I don't get what PFF is looking at all...

Jets lost today, but that was because of their offensive turnovers; their front seven on defense looked great...

jeanpierre 09-16-2018 11:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 813230)
Yeah.....we need a real running back :wink:

We have another one besides the real deal in Kamara; but in Payton's questionable personnel wisdom, he's on the practice squad, no less, in Boston Scott...

Understand the argument that Scott has to know pass protection so it will not be an automatic tell to defenses that he's in there to run...

So my retort to that argument to Payton and his apologists is this - so why does Gillislee run the ball only when he's on the field?

Scott could've easily picked up more yards than Gillislee who we found on the Patriots' trash heap...

jeanpierre 09-16-2018 11:33 PM

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First TD Throw To @CantGuardMike in this tweeted video worked out for the Saints and two of my three fantasy teams...

But really wish Payton would tear these plays out of his playbook because a better team would have converted that into a devastating pick-6 play...



ChrisXVI 09-17-2018 11:14 AM

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jeanpierre 09-17-2018 12:51 PM

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Stand by what I said - no way Davis should be graded that high with the missed tackles for loss and failure to contain the edge several times...

jeanpierre 09-18-2018 02:49 PM

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K Major 09-18-2018 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 813377)
Stand by what I said - no way Davis should be graded that high with the missed tackles for loss and failure to contain the edge several times...

Well Demario did end up with 9 tackles, a TFL (tackle for loss) & a forced fumble. Pretty good for a guy playing out of his natural position.

Dennis Allen scares the heck out of me with his personnel decisions & play calling.


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