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WhoDat!656 09-24-2018 06:59 PM

Sterling Moore visiting the Saints
 

Cruize 09-24-2018 07:03 PM

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He should ask for a lot of money. :)

jnormand 09-24-2018 07:16 PM

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Yeah what is with this guy not finding consistent teams? He's a decent CB. Glad he's coming for a visit. Immediate upgrade over Williams/Crawley.

And really....wtf happened to Crawley anyway? He was solid last year. This year he can't do a damn thing. And I don't want the defensive line excuse.

ChrisXVI 09-24-2018 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 814837)
Yeah what is with this guy not finding consistent teams? He's a decent CB. Glad he's coming for a visit. Immediate upgrade over Williams/Crawley.

And really....wtf happened to Crawley anyway? He was solid last year. This year he can't do a damn thing. And I don't want the defensive line excuse.

It has to be a personality problem.

saintfan 09-24-2018 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 814837)
Yeah what is with this guy not finding consistent teams? He's a decent CB. Glad he's coming for a visit. Immediate upgrade over Williams/Crawley.

And really....wtf happened to Crawley anyway? He was solid last year. This year he can't do a damn thing. And I don't want the defensive line excuse.

I think, at least to some percentage, our pitiful play on the dline hurts more than it seems few are willing to accept.

jnormand 09-24-2018 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 814844)
I think, at least to some percentage, our pitiful play on the dline hurts more than it seems few are willing to accept.

Maybe to some percentage. But c'mon. Its completely unrealistic to expect the defensive line to get "pressure" on all or even most plays.

Here's the kicker.

Williams was getting burned so bad, the benched him and put Crawley in. Then Crawley was getting torched so bad, the took Lat off Julio and put him on the Ridley. A play or so later, Crawley gets torched by Julio Jones.

Lat wasn't getting torched, and he was playing with the same damn defensive line in front of him.

I don't buy the d-line BS. I understand that it can be a factor. But I just don't buy that's it's THE REASON or even most of it. NFW.

rezburna 09-24-2018 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 814846)
Maybe to some percentage. But c'mon. Its completely unrealistic to expect the defensive line to get "pressure" on all or even most plays.

Here's the kicker.

Williams was getting burned so bad, the benched him and put Crawley in. Then Crawley was getting torched so bad, the took Lat off Julio and put him on the Ridley. A play or so later, Crawley gets torched by Julio Jones.

Lat wasn't getting torched, and he was playing with the same damn defensive line in front of him.

I don't buy the d-line BS. I understand that it can be a factor. But I just don't buy that's it's THE REASON or even most of it. NFW.

Exactly. Lattimore was on one of the best receivers of all time and still wasn’t getting torched. Has anybody ever heard of a “coverage sack”? Probably not since we never cause them.

nola_swammi 09-24-2018 08:26 PM

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I haven't lost faith in Crawley but he do need to earn the right to be starter. P.J. need to switch to free safety

blackangold 09-24-2018 10:59 PM

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Moore is better than PJ... not sure he is better than Crawley.
What I do know is we need to play more cover 2 with shallow safeties.

voodooido 09-24-2018 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 814877)
Moore is better than PJ... not sure he is better than Crawley.
What I do know is we need to play more cover 2 with shallow safeties.



A hot dog turd is better than PJ. He should of been released two years ago.

lee909 09-25-2018 12:55 AM

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Why did we not get involvd

On March 14, 2018, the Chiefs traded Marcus Peters and a 2018 sixth-round pick to the Los Angeles Rams for a 2018 fourth-round pick and a 2019 second-round pick.On April 24, the Rams exercised the fifth-year option on Peters' contract

cmike 09-25-2018 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 814877)
Moore is better than PJ... not sure he is better than Crawley.
What I do know is we need to play more cover 2 with shallow safeties.

Moore has that swagger, that dog in him. It’s something that compliments a players talent and skills.

SaintGup 09-25-2018 06:13 AM

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I think we should put Taysom Hill on as Strong Safety against passing plays, Middle Linebacker against running plays, Slot receiver on offense for five yard outs , and Tight End for going across the middle. Also, he should cook at Emeril's, organise Mardi Gras and run a lemonade stand.

WW_Who_Dat 09-25-2018 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintGup (Post 814887)
I think we should put Taysom Hill on as Strong Safety against passing plays, Middle Linebacker against running plays, Slot receiver on offense for five yard outs , and Tight End for going across the middle. Also, he should cook at Emeril's, organise Mardi Gras and run a lemonade stand.

I was with you all the way untill "should cook at Emeril's". ;)

Crusader 09-25-2018 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 814884)
Why did we not get involvd

On March 14, 2018, the Chiefs traded Marcus Peters and a 2018 sixth-round pick to the Los Angeles Rams for a 2018 fourth-round pick and a 2019 second-round pick.On April 24, the Rams exercised the fifth-year option on Peters' contract

Because he will command a new contract soon that will make him the best paid CB ever. We allready have Lattimore that will command top dollar down the road.

SmashMouth 09-25-2018 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 814905)
Because he will command a new contract soon that will make him the best paid CB ever. We allready have Lattimore that will command top dollar down the road.

Well, we could've signed CB Colvin as a free agent.
Aaron Colvin, DB for the Houston Texans at NFL.com
Or maybe not... he's injured now.

Supertek 09-25-2018 01:51 PM

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I think we have no choice make some cuts and bring in anyone promising to try out or make some deals.

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-25-2018 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Supertek (Post 814971)
I think we have no choice make some cuts and bring in anyone promising to try out or make some deals.

I think we do have a choice. For the most part this is the same defensive personnel from last year. It's not like they've forgot to play football.

Allen needs to reign it in for a bit and put the defensive backfield in coverages that keeps receivers in front of our safeties. Trusting Williams and Bell to cover up the mistakes of Crawley and Williams when they get suckered simply isn't working. The defense will give up chunk plays to be sure. But it's the balls over the top for the 50+ yards TDs that are currently killing us.

Something like a pure Cover-2 or Cover-2/Man under will force teams to matriculate down the field. The more we do that, the more likely we'll get a 3rd down stop, or a turnover, or force a field goal.

Somehow we need to force underneath throws and keep everything in front. That's the way to win.

SFIAH

rezburna 09-25-2018 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 814982)
I think we do have a choice. For the most part this is the same defensive personnel from last year. It's not like they've forgot to play football.

Allen needs to reign it in for a bit and put the defensive backfield in coverages that keeps receivers in front of our safeties. Trusting Williams and Bell to cover up the mistakes of Crawley and Williams when they get suckered simply isn't working. The defense will give up chunk plays to be sure. But it's the balls over the top for the 50+ yards TDs that are currently killing us.

Something like a pure Cover-2 or Cover-2/Man under will force teams to matriculate down the field. The more we do that, the more likely we'll get a 3rd down stop, or a turnover, or force a field goal.

Somehow we need to force underneath throws and keep everything in front. That's the way to win.

SFIAH

Exactly.

K Major 09-25-2018 02:38 PM

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In 3 games, the Saints defense has one turnover. That puts us on pace for 6 for the entire season :rolleyes: .

With all of the issues we have defending the long ball, the defense has to be able to create turnovers if you expect to win long term.

The Dude 09-25-2018 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 814878)
A hot dog turd is better than PJ. He should of been released two years ago.

I’m not convinced Jason David isn’t better than P.J.

ChrisXVI 09-25-2018 05:05 PM

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Rugby Saint II 09-25-2018 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 814982)
I think we do have a choice. For the most part this is the same defensive personnel from last year. It's not like they've forgot to play football.

Allen needs to reign it in for a bit and put the defensive backfield in coverages that keeps receivers in front of our safeties. Trusting Williams and Bell to cover up the mistakes of Crawley and Williams when they get suckered simply isn't working. The defense will give up chunk plays to be sure. But it's the balls over the top for the 50+ yards TDs that are currently killing us.

Something like a pure Cover-2 or Cover-2/Man under will force teams to matriculate down the field. The more we do that, the more likely we'll get a 3rd down stop, or a turnover, or force a field goal.

Somehow we need to force underneath throws and keep everything in front. That's the way to win.

SFIAH

DA is out thinking his own players. Go back to what worked last year.

spkb25 09-25-2018 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 814844)
I think, at least to some percentage, our pitiful play on the dline hurts more than it seems few are willing to accept.

D-tackle, stinky

People laughed at me about trading shankins...bet you're not laughing now

spkb25 09-25-2018 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 814884)
Why did we not get involvd

On March 14, 2018, the Chiefs traded Marcus Peters and a 2018 sixth-round pick to the Los Angeles Rams for a 2018 fourth-round pick and a 2019 second-round pick.On April 24, the Rams exercised the fifth-year option on Peters' contract

Because we were too overloaded with talent. Can't you see it all over the field

ChrisXVI 09-25-2018 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 815041)
D-tackle, stinky

People laughed at me about trading shankins...bet you're not laughing now

The D-Line was great Sunday. I’m fact, the whole front seven is playing very well.

Our defense is currently 6th against the run in terms of yards. We’re 1st in YPC.

ChrisXVI 09-25-2018 06:20 PM

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spkb25 09-25-2018 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 815043)
The D-Line was great Sunday. I’m fact, the whole front seven is playing very well.

Our defense is currently 6th against the run in terms of yards. We’re 1st in YPC.

That's because no one needs to run.

AsylumGuido 09-25-2018 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 815041)
D-tackle, stinky

People laughed at me about trading shankins...bet you're not laughing now

Still laughing at you.

RailBoss 09-25-2018 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintGup (Post 814887)
I think we should put Taysom Hill on as Strong Safety against passing plays, Middle Linebacker against running plays, Slot receiver on offense for five yard outs , and Tight End for going across the middle. Also, he should cook at Emeril's, organise Mardi Gras and run a lemonade stand.

Guido Merkens is reborn....great post Gup

K Major 09-26-2018 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 815041)
D-tackle, stinky

People laughed at me about trading shankins...bet you're not laughing now

D line or Rankins are problems.

Saints currently rank #1 against the run in terms of yards per carry. No way we are that stout up front without good play from Rankins.

Edit - link below for those wanting the source of those stats.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...r-rush-attempt

https://www.neworleanssaints.com/new...saints-defense

K Major 09-26-2018 02:23 PM

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Footnote - It could just be me but the Saints D line seems to be more cohesive since Davison has been out the last 2 games.


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