Saints Re-Signing WR Brandon Tate
 

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Hill was returning kickoffs. Kamara has been returning punts. Replace that duty for Kamara? Could also mean that Austin Carr is heading back to the Practice squad soon.

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So they're moving Taysom Hill to CB then?

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I'd rather see him somewhere on the dline...:hallucinate:

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Hope not. Get a feeling he's gonna contribute more. His lead blocking on Ginn's 20 yd reverse was text book & the catch he made was a pretty good one.

Just afraid he'd be poached rather quickly. There's a bunch of teams with pretty sorry WR corps out there.

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Agreed. I'm thinking Bushrod or someone else gets cut.

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I think Payton thinks Hill is to valuable to risk injury. Kamara is a huge risk too but at least he’s done it before. I would rather Tate back than either of them returning kicks .

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I'm more confused that our coaches would expose Kamara to gunners and Ted (had a near muff vs Atl) "butter fingers" Jr on punt duty.

Tate was the best returner all of training camp.

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I don't think they really wanted to have six roster spots taken up by WR's. Ginn has become somewhat of a liability (punts and drops receiving), but it's hard to imagine him being released.

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I agree with Guido T. Ginn is going to have a diminished role I spoke of getting Tate (Free Kamara from this duty) coming back and also Scott (Insurance even after we get our starter back) get rid of the other backs. They have not fully addressed the CB issue just some band aids. Ginn has still got breakaway speed and is a threat we need to use him to expose weaknesses in deep coverage's and to clear out intermediate routes for our other receivers. Want to see Sterling back or a trade get done. I want to see Allen gone we need someone with a real passion for defense and they have people out there that would fit the bill. Don't be surprised if this happens. I want to see if Payton really wants to make some tough decisions to get this team a superbowl. If he does not have the balls to do it we won't get there.

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I would be surprised to see it happen during the season. The whole season would have to be a train wreck to let a coordinator go mid-season. It did happen with Rob Ryan, but that season was that train wreck and Dennis Allen was already in-house to step in. I suppose someone like Nolan could do the same, but I just don't see it happening.

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Sean Payton ain't firing Dennis Allen.

This team still has a lot of talent defensively but there is absolutely no way we should be this awful (specifically the secondary) on D. Saw a replay of the Falcons / Saints ... we are in zone coverage, meanwhile PJ is back pedaling flat footed :rolleyes:. Receivers running high school wide open.

I have no idea what the defensive coordinator is doing.

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I understand that players regress, have bad years, classic sophomore slump etc... but I don't believe all the cornerbacks and safeties on a team regress all at the same time. It has to be the scheme.

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CB, DL... When are you people going to realize that Hill is the best LB on the team?

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It's always been the scheme. That's how GW turned Scott Shanle, Roman Harper and Alex Brown into a top 10 D - schemed to play to their collective strengths.

Payton and Allen are responsible when players look bad, and the D gets worse and worse no matter how many pro bowlers we bring in. That shows everyone it isn't the players.

Payton can't even play a newly signed LB in his original position.

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Wouldn’t that make them responsible for them looking great last year? :doh:

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It certainly would, which begs the question, what happened?

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I think the answer is that Allen put too many wrinkles in the defense and never gave any position group time to gel. He needs to simplify the scheme again and let the talent stop thinking all the time and just do their job instinctively.

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What could have changed? The complexity of the scheme most likely. The same thing happened everywhere that Rob Ryan coached. He would implement a stripped down vanilla version of his offense and they would have immediate success. Thee following year he would open up the playbook and players would begin to look lost. Sound familiar?

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You beat me to it, Rugby. But, yes, I agree. It's too logical not to be the reason.

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OMG! I knew I recognized that coaching pattern from somewhere. That was it. :stupid:

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Back to the OP...

I'm also worried that Carr won't survive on PS. With Meredith finally ready to play, do we risk Smith on PS?

As for 'risking' Hill back there, pretty much everything we have asked him to do falls under the risk category. Sure-handed, big, and smart. He'd be my choice.
Just please not Kamara or Ginn

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Smith would be long gone if we tried to move him to the PS.

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So these multi millionaires can't handle their jobs getting harder as they progress in their careers?

If I want to be paid more I have to learn new information, new skills and do more work. These guys are earning millions of dollars and seem to get confused when they run something other than "man coverage."

It's their job to learn new schemes and become better/more intelligent players.

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Perhaps they aren't as intelligent as you or I or others. Or perhaps their management is not putting them into the position to succeed.

Yet, as others have pointed out. Some players leave and produce. Go figure.

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Well since many of them attend college at football factories that let them slide big time when it comes to academics. For every Cam Jordon you have three who can’t complete a coherent sentence. Lattimore seems to be one of them.
Maybe I’m just down on him for throwing the offense under the bus after the Browns game. He said something to the effect of “since our offense wasn’t getting it done we had to step up”

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Blitzing from somewhere for real. Would love to see a stat line of a sack, a pass td, a run td, a reception and a blocked kick.

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Not doubting you, but do you have some sort of link to that statement? I'm wanting to see the actual wording or context, but I can't find it.

I remember him being asked something about the importance of Williams' interception in the fourth quarter and him saying something about how the defense had to make a stop at that point. He may have even used the term "step it up", but I can't find it. I have noticed that he does use that term quite a bit.