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Barry from MS 09-29-2018 11:31 AM

Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come'
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 815607)
Not even Von Miller, Kalil Mack or LT himself could get to the QB in the time our DB's lose their man.

We don't need no stinking pass rush. We're doing really cute things like disguising our coverages & being all scientifically progressive with our complexity...or something.

TheOak 09-29-2018 02:01 PM

Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come'
 
Often it seems that we have disguised our coverage from ourselves. I might feel a little more comfortable if they could focus on stopping big plays before they focus on making big plays.

This might be why they are getting torn up, focusing on a strip rather than a tackle... and missing. TD!!!!

brees84 09-29-2018 03:40 PM

Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come'
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 815617)
This might be why they are getting torn up, focusing on a strip rather than a tackle... and missing. TD!!!!


What scares me is that Sean said this week they will focus on forcing fumbles. Every time they focused on "forcing fumbles" Saints players forgot how to tackle. That happened in Rob Ryan second year as DC. That offseason they changed tackling technique and results were disastrous.

That's Sean Payton. Only defensive coordinator with enough authority would improve this defense and bring some continuity. Imagine Payton bossing around Wade Philips or Fangio... It wouldn't be that easy. But we had our chance and missed on those guys.

dizzle88 09-29-2018 05:03 PM

Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come'
 
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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 815623)
What scares me is that Sean said this week they will focus on forcing fumbles. Every time they focused on "forcing fumbles" Saints players forgot how to tackle. That happened in Rob Ryan second year as DC. That offseason they changed tackling technique and results were disastrous.

That's Sean Payton. Only defensive coordinator with enough authority would improve this defense and bring some continuity. Imagine Payton bossing around Wade Philips or Fangio... It wouldn't be that easy. But we had our chance and missed on those guys.

Payton likely didn't go for those guys because he couldn't boss them around, DA is his BFF.

AsylumGuido 09-29-2018 07:20 PM

Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come'
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 815628)
Payton likely didn't go for those guys because he couldn't boss them around, DA is his BFF.

Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night?

Barry from MS 09-29-2018 08:21 PM

Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come'
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 815638)
Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night?

I think cuggling in Louisiana is illegal.

The Dude 09-29-2018 08:39 PM

Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come'
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 815638)
Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night?

To some extent I think it is about power. I don’t think he can help but try to control things. The DC does one or two things that Payton thinks is wrong and he tries to step in and control the whole situation even if it means turning things completely upside down.

dizzle88 09-29-2018 09:02 PM

Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come'
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 815638)
Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night?

Dennis must be a great cuggler, it would explain why he's got a job that isn't an assistant position.

Audiotom 09-29-2018 10:48 PM

Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come'
 
Stop taking those absolutely stupid group celebration pics with a turnover

It's expected

Barry from MS 09-30-2018 12:00 AM

Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come'
 
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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 815653)
Stop taking those absolutely stupid group celebration pics with a turnover

It's expected

Pretty sure they'd get confused on where to line up for their pretend photo, anyhow.


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