18-1 Baby! One Step Closer!

K Major · 10-09-2018, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Meredith fumbled but it looked like he never had full control of the catch. I don’t think they even bothered to review it.

This reminds me of last year...when the light finally came on for the defense. I don’t know if communication is better or if DA simplified things but last night was awesome. Especially considering we lost Lattimore early.

Oh year Alex A and Kurt C still suck though...

Yep. Sean won't tolerate fumbling but Meredith has to secure the rock. Dude was making plays and getting open.

I'm with you on both. Anzalone (he got tossed by Adrian) & Kurt is still taking bad angles. Overall both have played poorly. We must have better production from these two players going forwad. We'll need their best effort against the stronger teams (Rams & Vikes).

AsylumGuido · 10-09-2018, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yep. Sean won't tolerate fumbling but Meredith has to secure the rock. Dude was making plays and getting open.

I'm with you on both. Anzalone (he got tossed by Adrian) & Kurt is still taking bad angles. Overall both have played poorly. We must have better production from these two players going forwad. We'll need their best effort against the stronger teams (Rams & Vikes).

It looks like he was still trying to pull it in when Moreau got his hand in there to pull Meredith's arm away. Good timing by Moreau. It probably could have been called an incomplete pass just as easily.

darksoul35 · 10-09-2018, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It looks like he was still trying to pull it in when Moreau got his hand in there to pull Meredith's arm away. Good timing by Moreau. It probably could have been called an incomplete pass just as easily.

This is one that even with my Saints glasses on I did not have a problem with them calling it a fumble. If the score was a little closer though I would've been cussing at the T.V and calling the refs cheaters.

AsylumGuido · 10-10-2018, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

This is one that even with my Saints glasses on I did not have a problem with them calling it a fumble. If the score was a little closer though I would've been cussing at the T.V and calling the refs cheaters.

Pretty much the same for me.

The Dude · 10-10-2018, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It looks like he was still trying to pull it in when Moreau got his hand in there to pull Meredith's arm away. Good timing by Moreau. It probably could have been called an incomplete pass just as easily.

Or maybe Merideth just isn’t all that good.

saintfan · 10-10-2018, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Or maybe Merideth just isn’t all that good.

Dude be CAREFUL man!

AsylumGuido · 10-10-2018, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Or maybe Merideth just isn’t all that good.

I agree. Merideth sucks.

The Dude · 10-10-2018, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yep. Sean won't tolerate fumbling but Meredith has to secure the rock. Dude was making plays and getting open.

I'm with you on both. Anzalone (he got tossed by Adrian) & Kurt is still taking bad angles. Overall both have played poorly. We must have better production from these two players going forwad. We'll need their best effort against the stronger teams (Rams & Vikes).

I thought Coleman was supposed to be an upgrade over Vaccaro. How has he been this year? I still have hopes for him. Williams isn’t exactly lighting it up this year either.

K Major · 10-10-2018, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I thought Coleman was supposed to be an upgrade over Vaccaro. How has he been this year? I still have hopes for him. Williams isn’t exactly lighting it up this year either.

I thought he would be but so far he's been below average. Bad angles, missed tackles (on crucial 3rd downs). Hadn't looked at his PFF grades as of late but I'm sure they aren't good. On the flip side, Vonn Bell has been playing a lot better. How much can we attribute this to Kurt & his "veteran presence "?

Hindsight is 20/20 however it's starting to look like the Saints may have over paid for Kurt. Long season ahead but I think at some point he'll help us win more defensive battles.

AsylumGuido · 10-10-2018, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I thought he would be but so far he's been below average. Bad angles, missed tackles (on crucial 3rd downs). Hadn't looked at his PFF grades as of late but I'm sure they aren't good. On the flip side, Vonn Bell has been playing a lot better. How much can we attribute this to Kurt & his "veteran presence "?

Hindsight is 20/20 however it's starting to look like the Saints may have over paid for Kurt. Long season ahead but I think at some point he'll help us win more defensive battles.

Marcus Williams' PFF is at 60.2 which is "above average" according to their scale.

Coleman is at 54.7 - "average"

Vonn Bell is at 79.8 - "good"

10-09-2018, 09:05 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 18-1 Baby! One Step Closer! Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Meredith fumbled but it looked like he never had full control of the catch. I don’t think they even bothered to review it. This reminds me of last year...when the light finally came on for the defense. I don’t know if communication is better or if DA simplified things but last night was awesome. Especially considering we lost Lattimore early. Oh year Alex A and Kurt C still suck though... Yep. Sean won't tolerate fumbling but Meredith has to secure the rock. Dude was making plays and getting open. I'm with you on both. Anzalone (he got tossed by Adrian) & Kurt is still taking bad angles. Overall both have played poorly. We must have better production from these two players going forwad. We'll need their best effort against the stronger teams (Rams & Vikes).

10-09-2018, 10:47 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: 18-1 Baby! One Step Closer! Originally Posted by K Major Yep. Sean won't tolerate fumbling but Meredith has to secure the rock. Dude was making plays and getting open. I'm with you on both. Anzalone (he got tossed by Adrian) & Kurt is still taking bad angles. Overall both have played poorly. We must have better production from these two players going forwad. We'll need their best effort against the stronger teams (Rams & Vikes). It looks like he was still trying to pull it in when Moreau got his hand in there to pull Meredith's arm away. Good timing by Moreau. It probably could have been called an incomplete pass just as easily. darksoul35 likes this.

10-09-2018, 10:45 PM	#3
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,045	Re: 18-1 Baby! One Step Closer! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It looks like he was still trying to pull it in when Moreau got his hand in there to pull Meredith's arm away. Good timing by Moreau. It probably could have been called an incomplete pass just as easily. This is one that even with my Saints glasses on I did not have a problem with them calling it a fumble. If the score was a little closer though I would've been cussing at the T.V and calling the refs cheaters. AsylumGuido likes this.
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10-10-2018, 06:34 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: 18-1 Baby! One Step Closer! Originally Posted by darksoul35 This is one that even with my Saints glasses on I did not have a problem with them calling it a fumble. If the score was a little closer though I would've been cussing at the T.V and calling the refs cheaters. Pretty much the same for me.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: 18-1 Baby! One Step Closer! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It looks like he was still trying to pull it in when Moreau got his hand in there to pull Meredith's arm away. Good timing by Moreau. It probably could have been called an incomplete pass just as easily. Or maybe Merideth just isn’t all that good.
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10-10-2018, 12:12 PM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 18-1 Baby! One Step Closer! Originally Posted by The Dude Or maybe Merideth just isn’t all that good. Dude be CAREFUL man!

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: 18-1 Baby! One Step Closer! Originally Posted by The Dude Or maybe Merideth just isn’t all that good. I agree. Merideth sucks.

10-10-2018, 02:43 PM	#8
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: 18-1 Baby! One Step Closer! Originally Posted by K Major Yep. Sean won't tolerate fumbling but Meredith has to secure the rock. Dude was making plays and getting open. I'm with you on both. Anzalone (he got tossed by Adrian) & Kurt is still taking bad angles. Overall both have played poorly. We must have better production from these two players going forwad. We'll need their best effort against the stronger teams (Rams & Vikes). I thought Coleman was supposed to be an upgrade over Vaccaro. How has he been this year? I still have hopes for him. Williams isn’t exactly lighting it up this year either.
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10-10-2018, 03:03 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 18-1 Baby! One Step Closer! Originally Posted by The Dude I thought Coleman was supposed to be an upgrade over Vaccaro. How has he been this year? I still have hopes for him. Williams isn’t exactly lighting it up this year either. I thought he would be but so far he's been below average. Bad angles, missed tackles (on crucial 3rd downs). Hadn't looked at his PFF grades as of late but I'm sure they aren't good. On the flip side, Vonn Bell has been playing a lot better. How much can we attribute this to Kurt & his "veteran presence "? Hindsight is 20/20 however it's starting to look like the Saints may have over paid for Kurt. Long season ahead but I think at some point he'll help us win more defensive battles.

10-10-2018, 05:16 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: 18-1 Baby! One Step Closer! Originally Posted by K Major I thought he would be but so far he's been below average. Bad angles, missed tackles (on crucial 3rd downs). Hadn't looked at his PFF grades as of late but I'm sure they aren't good. On the flip side, Vonn Bell has been playing a lot better. How much can we attribute this to Kurt & his "veteran presence "? Hindsight is 20/20 however it's starting to look like the Saints may have over paid for Kurt. Long season ahead but I think at some point he'll help us win more defensive battles. Marcus Williams' PFF is at 60.2 which is "above average" according to their scale. Coleman is at 54.7 - "average" Vonn Bell is at 79.8 - "good"

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