Cowboys’ Jaylon Smith fined for hit on Alvin Kamara

Audiotom · 12-07-2018, 07:13 PM

https://deadspin.com/jaylon-smith-so...g-h-1830759886

here is a good video look
Smith totally launches himself

What the Saints had to say about the hit

The Saints weren’t vocally upset about the hit after the game, for the most part. Alvin Kamara himself didn’t have much to say about the hit.

“Did one come out? It is what is. It doesn’t matter what I was expecting…Yeah, I’m cool. I came back out, didn’t I?”

Drew Brees said to “let the league deal with that” when he was referring to Smith’s hit on Kamara potentially being fined.

Head coach Sean Payton, who is on the NFL Competition Committee, gave the referees a little leeway with their mistake:

“I was involved in the process of the rule. Listen, those are hard to call as well. Really, it’s tough when the guys are moving around real fast. I haven’t seen it as cleanly as you guys have. Listen, we got beat. We got beat tonight and there will be a number of things we that we can point to but overall, we just didn’t do enough as a team.”

Saints defensive tackle Sheldon Rankins had the strongest reaction after the game, via NOLA.com:

“Jaylon Smith’s head was down. He launched right into Kamara, hit him with the crown of his helmet,” defensive tackle Sheldon Rankins said. “That’s above my pay grade to say what the league should and should not do, what officials should and should not do.

“But, I play football, and I know what a helmet-to-helmet is, and to me it was helmet to helmet.”

lee909 · 12-07-2018, 06:44 PM

Yeah great
The NFL picks up some fine money

That makes up for a 15 yard penalty that would have likely led to a field goal in a 3pt loss in a game that would have the Saints still as the 1 seed in the NFC. But as long as the Cowboys get a prime time win in Dallas and keep on track to make the playoffs what else matters

The Dude · 12-07-2018, 09:04 PM

All offseason all I heard was about how much attention was going to be payed to the helmet rule. People were worried linemen would get flags just for doing their jobs. It was going to ruin the NFL.
Yet here we are.

Beastmode · 12-07-2018, 09:51 PM

I don't get why refs need cameras on the field. Can't they have press box refs who look at this stuff immediately. It would make the game go a lot faster instead of waiting on the field refs and things like this could be caught easily and make the game safer.

The whole challenge and camera review needs improvement.

The Dude · 12-07-2018, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I don't get why refs need cameras on the field. Can't they have press box refs who look at this stuff immediately. It would make the game go a lot faster instead of waiting on the field refs and things like this could be caught easily and make the game safer.

The whole challenge and camera review needs improvement.

Hell officials view penalties and TDS from NY after 2 min warning don’t they? Why can’t they look at all the controversial calls. It would make a hell of a lot more sense to do that, especially when it comes to helmet contact than to deal with it after the fact. A player gets by with it once and he thinks the refs aren’t going to call it tight during that particular game and wind up delivering another hit that gets somebody seriously injured.

vpheughan · 12-08-2018, 07:10 AM

A perfect example of how "The League" can manipulate the outcome of games. The hit to the helmet, the "generous spot" for the "first" down. Look at any close or "BIG" game and you'll see the same thing. The next CBA should be very interesting with two "rival" leagues on the horizon.

jeanpierre · 12-08-2018, 07:59 AM

Actually, the fines go to charity, so it's a tax write-off for the players...

You want to affect real change? Pull game checks and have them sit out games...

Betcha Mark Ingram even has pause when he reaches for the salt at the dinner table now...

homerj07 · 12-08-2018, 09:39 AM

So.... what's the fine on the officials for missing an obvious call?

SmashMouth · 12-08-2018, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by homerj07

So.... what's the fine on the officials for missing an obvious call?

They did fire one official this year... I suppose as a warning shot, not that it's made any difference, obviously.

saintsfan1976 · 12-09-2018, 06:28 AM

$13k fine for Lattimore putting money in the Salvation Army prop. I’ll bet donations went up the next day...
$26k for spearing the helmet.
The fines are ridiculous for both.

While we’re at it, how the hell os Burfict still in the league? The #1 most fined player in the NFL at over $450k.... there’s more evidence of his intent to injure than 10 seasons of bounty gate yet the guy is still allowed to play.

The NFL’s mismanagement of fouls, replay and hits is what will drive people away.

12-07-2018, 06:44 PM	#2
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,877 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cowboys’ Jaylon Smith fined for hit on Alvin Kamara Yeah great The NFL picks up some fine money That makes up for a 15 yard penalty that would have likely led to a field goal in a 3pt loss in a game that would have the Saints still as the 1 seed in the NFC. But as long as the Cowboys get a prime time win in Dallas and keep on track to make the playoffs what else matters

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,076	Re: Cowboys’ Jaylon Smith fined for hit on Alvin Kamara All offseason all I heard was about how much attention was going to be payed to the helmet rule. People were worried linemen would get flags just for doing their jobs. It was going to ruin the NFL. Yet here we are.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,076	Re: Cowboys’ Jaylon Smith fined for hit on Alvin Kamara Originally Posted by Beastmode I don't get why refs need cameras on the field. Can't they have press box refs who look at this stuff immediately. It would make the game go a lot faster instead of waiting on the field refs and things like this could be caught easily and make the game safer. The whole challenge and camera review needs improvement. Hell officials view penalties and TDS from NY after 2 min warning don’t they? Why can’t they look at all the controversial calls. It would make a hell of a lot more sense to do that, especially when it comes to helmet contact than to deal with it after the fact. A player gets by with it once and he thinks the refs aren’t going to call it tight during that particular game and wind up delivering another hit that gets somebody seriously injured.
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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,567	Re: Cowboys’ Jaylon Smith fined for hit on Alvin Kamara A perfect example of how "The League" can manipulate the outcome of games. The hit to the helmet, the "generous spot" for the "first" down. Look at any close or "BIG" game and you'll see the same thing. The next CBA should be very interesting with two "rival" leagues on the horizon.
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12-07-2018, 07:13 PM	#1
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cowboys’ Jaylon Smith fined for hit on Alvin Kamara https://deadspin.com/jaylon-smith-so...g-h-1830759886 here is a good video look Smith totally launches himself What the Saints had to say about the hit The Saints weren’t vocally upset about the hit after the game, for the most part. Alvin Kamara himself didn’t have much to say about the hit. “Did one come out? It is what is. It doesn’t matter what I was expecting…Yeah, I’m cool. I came back out, didn’t I?” Drew Brees said to “let the league deal with that” when he was referring to Smith’s hit on Kamara potentially being fined. Head coach Sean Payton, who is on the NFL Competition Committee, gave the referees a little leeway with their mistake: “I was involved in the process of the rule. Listen, those are hard to call as well. Really, it’s tough when the guys are moving around real fast. I haven’t seen it as cleanly as you guys have. Listen, we got beat. We got beat tonight and there will be a number of things we that we can point to but overall, we just didn’t do enough as a team.” Saints defensive tackle Sheldon Rankins had the strongest reaction after the game, via NOLA.com: “Jaylon Smith’s head was down. He launched right into Kamara, hit him with the crown of his helmet,” defensive tackle Sheldon Rankins said. “That’s above my pay grade to say what the league should and should not do, what officials should and should not do. “But, I play football, and I know what a helmet-to-helmet is, and to me it was helmet to helmet.”

12-08-2018, 07:59 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Cowboys’ Jaylon Smith fined for hit on Alvin Kamara Actually, the fines go to charity, so it's a tax write-off for the players... You want to affect real change? Pull game checks and have them sit out games... Betcha Mark Ingram even has pause when he reaches for the salt at the dinner table now...

12-08-2018, 09:39 AM	#8
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Cowboys’ Jaylon Smith fined for hit on Alvin Kamara So.... what's the fine on the officials for missing an obvious call? saintsfan1976 and SmashMouth like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,271 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Cowboys’ Jaylon Smith fined for hit on Alvin Kamara Originally Posted by homerj07 So.... what's the fine on the officials for missing an obvious call? They did fire one official this year... I suppose as a warning shot, not that it's made any difference, obviously.

12-09-2018, 06:28 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,102 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Cowboys’ Jaylon Smith fined for hit on Alvin Kamara $13k fine for Lattimore putting money in the Salvation Army prop. I’ll bet donations went up the next day... $26k for spearing the helmet. The fines are ridiculous for both. While we’re at it, how the hell os Burfict still in the league? The #1 most fined player in the NFL at over $450k.... there’s more evidence of his intent to injure than 10 seasons of bounty gate yet the guy is still allowed to play. The NFL’s mismanagement of fouls, replay and hits is what will drive people away. jeanpierre likes this.