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FireVenturi 06-10-2005 06:55 PM

i think the a-mac pick was great and will pan out in the future, but this year he should be third string and they should give him the most work in the pre-season cause we know Boo-man sucks!!!

AllSaints 06-10-2005 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper
... I know it is not going to happen, but I would like to see Adrian play in the rpeseason with the first team for a couples series...

... anyway, this is the year that Brooks puts it all together...

Brooks was suppose to put it all togther every year.

Euphoria 06-10-2005 10:13 PM

here we go brooks bashing...

jnormand 06-11-2005 04:59 AM

I think A-Mac has a good chance of beating out Bouman for the #2 QB spot. I really think A-Mac will be #2 by next season. I know the guy is talented, but I really don't see him taking the starting spot from Brooks. Brooks can be great at times, and the team will go into this season hoping that all the hype about him is true.

nawlins 06-11-2005 07:52 AM

The only "truthful" thing that can be said about Adrian is that he's a great athlete. As far as being a great QB? Well, I personally don't think Adrian would start for any team in the NFL. This guy is about as raw as they come.

The arena league is nothing like the pro game. People like to point to Kurt Warner's arena league experience and make more of it than what it is. But its more like playing sandlot ball. Kurt Warner played a full college career and played NFL Europe.

From the many boards I visit, I find many times that Adrian is brought up as a "troll" post tatic. Who in their right mind really thinks McPherson will start this year? IMO, if someone does believe it (which I highly doubt) that person is very gullible. Posts like this are the kind that go bad very quickly. Usually its always the same members who dwell on the same subjets. Something that I've noticed is widespead here. This, IMO, causes the majority of the problems here. And oddly enough, some of the senior members are the biggest participants. (I'm not a knowitall. I don't pretend to know everything. Just my observations.)

Brooks is the starter and barring a disaster, he will remain the starter.

Saint_LB 06-11-2005 08:27 AM

My take....it is not rocket science as some people seem to suggest. Yes, rookies will struggle. Some veterans continue to struggle. There is a learning curve, but the last time I checked, it is still football.

Will AM be able to step in right away. Probably not, mainly because he will never get the chance barring injury to AB. The question as to whether he could step in as a rookie and succeed will probably never get an answer. To think that it would be totally out of the realm of possibility for him to step in and and succeed right away is ludicrous. This guy has proven in his past that he is a very, very good athlete. Whether or not he can succeed in the NFL reamains to be seen...but it would not be unheard of for someone like him to get his shot early and never look back. It's like someone stated earlier. if someone like Warner can step in from out of nowhere and accomplish what he accomplished, then AM coming in and being an instant hit is not that much of a stretch of my imagination.

nawlins 06-11-2005 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB
My take....it is not rocket science as some people seem to suggest. Yes, rookies will struggle. Some veterans continue to struggle. There is a learning curve, but the last time I checked, it is still football.

Will AM be able to step in right away. Probably not, mainly because he will never get the chance barring injury to AB. The question as to whether he could step in as a rookie and succeed will probably never get an answer. To think that it would be totally out of the realm of possibility for him to step in and and succeed right away is ludicrous. This guy has proven in his past that he is a very, very good athlete. Whether or not he can succeed in the NFL reamains to be seen...but it would not be unheard of for someone like him to get his shot early and never look back. It's like someone stated earlier. if someone like Warner can step in from out of nowhere and accomplish what he accomplished, then AM coming in and being an instant hit is not that much of a stretch of my imagination.

I don't think anyone made it sound like rocket science. I think most are making the situations sound exactly like it is.

Nothing is impossible, SaintsLB. Is that your point? Because it seems to be the only one you're making. I mean no offense by that. If that's not your point, then I really don't see one in your post?

Are you just upset that people are making it sound like a real longshot for Adrian to see the field this year? They're just telling it like it is.

saintfan 06-11-2005 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by nawlins
The only "truthful" thing that can be said about Adrian is that he's a great athlete.

Adrian = Mike Vick

mayoj 06-11-2005 09:47 AM

This topic is exhausted.

Who do you think will be RSofY: Rookie Saintsation of the Year??

jk

maybe

Euphoria 06-11-2005 09:06 PM

bethany

AllSaints 06-12-2005 08:52 PM

never thought it would get all the hype it has gotten

ssmitty 06-14-2005 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat
Good point. If A-Mac was in Frisco, anyone think he wouldn't be the week 1 starter? Frankly, I think A-Mac might have the most POTENTIAL (Euph) of any QB in this year's draft. Do you guys feel that there were really QBs who were that much more talented that Adrian in the draft this year?

As every scout said, the guy would probably have been a first rounder had he stayed in school and not had the problems. I don't doubt that those problems could continue to hound this kid... but assume for a second that they're behind him - is there any reason he cannot develop quickly and play very well at this level?

while there are those who think you learn more from the sidelines, i don't know of anyone who's learned to swim without being in the water....smitty

broadmoorintheatl 06-14-2005 04:59 AM

From what I saw of Bouman last year,when you factor in his years of experience and knowledge of the game-and see him play... it just tells me all that didn't help him look capable of coming in and winning ANY games for us, so" Hell Yeah"!, I'd take my chances with an ATHLETE over a WILY VET. Bouman's game is a factor in the way A.B. plays because you only have to look at the way he plays to know "HE"S NO THREAT" to anyone's job security!

Euphoria 06-14-2005 09:55 AM

Thats a good point there smity... noted. But they don't through you in the ocean with the sharks... or in the 12 foot deep section of the pool, there is usually that 3 foot section. I like A-mac and I hope he does wonders for us but to say start him now over brooks is stupid. To say he is 2nd string without even so much as a spring training camp under his belt just a bit looney to me.

mayoj 06-14-2005 10:16 AM

I agree Eu that saying he should start over brooks is looney. As far as the backup though, I don't think it is out of the question to suggest he will be the backup. True, there is a chance he won't be and true we have not even seen the preseason. However, we have seen A-Mac's talent and potential and we have seen Bouman's lack of talent and potential which experience cannot surmount. So, to make the prediction that A-Mac will develop the small amount he needs to in order to have Bouman's inconsistent arm pushed to 3rd is not entirely out of the question.

1 A Brooks
2 A-Mac
3 A-nybody

ssmitty 06-14-2005 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria
Thats a good point there smity... noted. But they don't through you in the ocean with the sharks... or in the 12 foot deep section of the pool, there is usually that 3 foot section. I like A-mac and I hope he does wonders for us but to say start him now over brooks is stupid. To say he is 2nd string without even so much as a spring training camp under his belt just a bit looney to me.

that would be the quickest way to learn, no? for those comparing him to vick, what the hell is wrong with that? he has more experience than vick being placed in the mix immediately, no? while i know it won't happen unless brooks goes down, i would perfer to see him there over bouman if brooks did go down.........it would certainly fill the seats at the superdome, no? and oh, did i mention i learned to ride a bike on a bike? that is, when the neighborhood bully was'nt around.......smitty

DaRealAbdul 06-14-2005 05:57 PM

August 12th.

That's when this question will be answered.

Euphoria 06-15-2005 09:41 AM

So hell lets get rid of all the qbs and start amac, we don't need anyone else... then by the end of the year if amac didn't have the stats brooks has had we can him. This whole thing about feeding amac to the wolves is a bit crazy. I do like people are jumping behind a player (who hasn't played a down). But people are setting him up for a HUGE fall, if he doesn't pan out or needs sometime to develop. He comes in and doesn't fair well in one game, watch how many people change there mind about him. Now I always hope a player in a Saints uniform does GREAT... but setting expectations on him isn't good (stallworth).

mayoj 06-15-2005 10:18 AM

I totally agree Euph. Be optimistic about the future, but focus on the present, which in no way is A-mac. It's AB, and I DON'T WANT TO HEAR PUT AMAC IN AFTER ONE SUBPAR GAME FROM BROOKS. Even though we all know thats how things work. AB will not be perfect this year, but he will improve. SUPPORT HIM.

Euphoria 06-15-2005 10:29 AM

whew begining to think I was the only one. But let me bail on this post to avoid the whole Brooks things again... whew.

ssmitty 06-15-2005 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria
whew begining to think I was the only one. But let me bail on this post to avoid the whole Brooks things again... whew.

not that fast u.........................
all i'm saying is if brooks went down, i say throw amac to the wolves...
i don't care how good or bad he did, people in new orleans would just go nuts............take it to the bank.........
i'd go out on a limb to say the stadium would be sold out as long as he was in there too.............
let him make a few vick moves and watch a whole new attitude develope among fanss..............smitty

TayTay 06-15-2005 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmitty
Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria
whew begining to think I was the only one. But let me bail on this post to avoid the whole Brooks things again... whew.

not that fast u.........................
all i'm saying is if brooks went down, i say throw amac to the wolves...
i don't care how good or bad he did, people in new orleans would just go nuts............take it to the bank.........
i'd go out on a limb to say the stadium would be sold out as long as he was in there too.............
let him make a few vick moves and watch a whole new attitude develope among fanss..............smitty

Easy smitty. Let's not forget that Adrian will still be a rookie. I would love to think that he would sell out our stadium, but it will not happen. If Brooks goes down and Mcpherson comes in, we may sell more tickets for the first game or two, once the team starts losing more, fans will not come as often. Don't get me wrong, I like Mcpherson alot, but he is still a rookie and will not help our team. You said people in new orleans would go nuts for Adrian. I don't know about you, but I would rather have us win than have a mobile QB. As far as the Vick moves, sorry, but no QB can make any moves comparable to Mike's. I respect that you go out on a limb with your predictions, but it just will not happen.

ssmitty 06-15-2005 04:50 PM

i'd put money on it...................smitty

Euphoria 06-16-2005 12:10 AM

I think its terrible - even wrong to compare people, especially ones whom haven't even played a down yet. Sure if Brooks goes down we should put in Amac depending on what happends in camp. Let him get a camp and some preseason games under his belt before we call thim the next Savior... we don't want to create a Ryan Leaf do we.


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