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Bad Relationship Between Saints and NFL Will Get Worse in 2019
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Just in case you missed it, the National Football League in its infinite wisdom appeared to disrespect the New Orleans Saints once again yesterday (perhaps unintentionally but one has to wonder). The League’s Competition Committee decided not to make any changes to its rules regarding instant replay and more specifically, any non-calls made by NFL referees, at least for now.
As noted by several reporters on-hand in Indianapolis during yesterday’s meeting, the League and the Committee — which ironically Saints head coach Sean Payton himself is actually a member of — will explore the possibility of revisiting the rule and consider making any changes of significance at a later date. There was no word on whether or not Payton addressed the Committee, or whether or not it was ever brought up for serious conversation among his fellow seven members (Chairman and Falcons President Rich McKay, Giants owner John Mara, Cowboys co-owner Stephen Jones, Packers president Mark Murphy, former Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome, Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, and Broncos GM John Elway). Not surprisingly, it was the very same rule that the League and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell had promised to consider changing after the Black and Gold got robbed of a Super Bowl appearance in the NFC Championship Game loss to the Los Angeles Rams last month. The decision followed the much-discussed and now-infamous pass interference and helmet-to-helmet hit “no-calls” that should have been called penalties, by Rams DB Nickell Robey-Coleman against Saints WR Tommylee Lewis. https://www.bigeasymagazine.com/wp-c...oto-2.jpg.jpeg Instead of taking up the issue of the controversial play and its after-effects that essentially ripped the hearts out of an entire fan-base, members of the Committee opted instead to take into consideration things such as banning players from leaving their team’s bench on the sidelines to go and celebrate with their teammate(s) after scoring a touchdown. Oh boy, that’s a real critical issue that they chose to address right there. Are they serious? When you have as bad of an image problem as the NFL does at the moment, it would seem that perhaps the League would have been better served to address the most significant controversy that hangs over the sport like a dark black cloud. Namely, that officiating debacle at the Superdome a few weeks back that essentially robbed an entire team and its fanbase of a legitimate shot at winning a World Championship. Hysterically, the person that runs the Saints team Twitter account was quick to throw some “shade” at the League for their blatant hypocrisy and apparent incompetence, with this brilliant Tweet right after word had spread about the Competition Committee’s ignoring the replay issue for now and addressing other issues of far less importance. Quote:
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Because its all rigged.
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We are a small market team with a beloved QB and what appears to be a narcissist coach. Of course the NFL will move to make things happen in the big markets because there is more money to be made.
How dare we take the Lombardi away from Payton Manning? The Gall!!!! Bounty gate came down right after that historic moment. It's been a contentious relationship every since. Oh, and Godhell is a clown!:clown: |
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I'm beginning to think the NFL is rigged.
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Wonder if we would have received the same response if it had been ... say the Cowboys?
What would it hurt to put a former player on it's committee/board? |
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I wonder if the AAF is looking for a new marquee franchise.
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Took the AAF all of one week to get it right.
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Of coarse they won’t do crap about it then it would prove the fix got caught. Just bite me good*******
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Regardless of the optics of a postponement, I am not going to play the victim. If the new season starts and they haven't made a change then i will revisit this statement.
I't could have been postponed for no more of a reason that to put a proper plan together before making the rule change. |
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Committee is full of it. There would not be one every play just like the head spearing rule this year. No call on Hill in the NFCCG. No call on Jaylen Smith at Dallas on Kamara.
When the ball is 15 feet away and the defender de-cleats the receiver that is personal safety and should have been keyed in by NY and a foul called since the refs looking at it on the field did not. That's the integrity part and why Goodell looks like a moron. |
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Stuff like this is why I'm beginning to believe we are bound to go 7-9 next year.
It's not just us fans who are devastated, this nuked the team's entire mentality to the point I don't know if we'll truly recover from this. Last year's playoffs, they lost off a fluke hail mary that happens 1 time out of 100 and yet they managed to overcome that. They came back stronger and shrugged off the fluke loss to Minnesota. So far in just a month since that last, we're still hung up on the non-call. We can't even really discuss what went wrong in that playoff game without hearing about it. This gives me a bad feeling for next year. If we struggle next year, our entire story will be the non-call spiraling the team out of control. Over the summer, I usually go back and re-watch games and analyze them from a new perspective. I don't know if we'll ever be able to have a discussion on the NFCCG loss without it focusing entirely on that bad non-call. I thought we played down in both playoff games and looked like a beatable team. They never found their mojo again after Dallas took them behind the shed and smacked them around. That Cowboys loss was what spiraled the season downward. |
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The "small market" mantra never ceases to attract the interests of sports journalists. It arises from some elements of truth. In an effort to broaden their geographic appeal, sports leagues have expanded far beyond the largest cities. Until the recent relocation of the Rams and Chargers, the NFL's 32 teams resided in 31 cities. At the lower end, New Orleans, Jacksonville, and Buffalo have metro populations below 2 million. By including a set of lower population cities, it make sense for leagues to share revenue with them to enhance overall league competitiveness and appeal.
But, here is where the hand-wringing about small markets breaks down. The NFL shares revenue extensively. Teams equally divide revenues from the national media contracts, which currently exceed $7 billion and more than $220 per team. |
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Here's the idea I came up with that I believe gives sufficient balance between the two extremes: add an extra flag for the coach. Just because I call it the "Black Flag" system. When a black flag is thrown, everything on the previous play, judgement calls, non calls, everything, is reviewable for one single play. The key to the system is to make it a "break glass in emergency only" type flag. This is done in two phases. The first is that each coach can use their black flag once in the 16 game regular season.. Not one per game, one for the entire regular season. This forces coaches to strategize the effectiveness of throwing the black flag in a regular season game as once it is used, it is gone. Phase two is for the playoffs. As a reward for participating in each playoff game, each coach in every playoff game gets a black flag for the game. Again their black flag can be used at most once per playoff game. Essentially the black flag is a reward to a team for advancing in the playoffs. This eliminates most of the common issues associated with the activity. Every play does not have to be reviewed. There is adequate recourse for egregious calls or non calls. The rarity of usage forces coaches to think about its usage. Note that the regular red flag system is still in place for ordinary challenges. It's a system that fixes this problem without further burdening the game. Thoughts? SFIAH |
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In order for most players to be successful they have to look past draft pick#, not starting as a rookie, underwhelming contracts, every bad call they are involved in on the field... so on and so forth. Been on social media in the last couple years? Everyone is a victim and just struggling to breathe in the face of the tragedies brought on by social injustice. From the comfort of their air conditioned, WiFi covered, carpeted, snack filled, domicile. :) |
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Just a thought, but maybe they should implement rules changes etc for the playoffs and Super bowl only, when teams are in a do or die situation, oh and maybe the last game of the regular season?
GEAUX SAINTS! WHO DAT! :-) |
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It happened to the Saints....not New England. There will be no changes! :bang:
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Now, that's funny right there...
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If they called back a bunch of touchdowns for holding then guys would quit holding.
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Source: Wikipedia - List of television stations in North America by media market
Nielsen rankings of markets attached to NFL teams...
Added the market shares, the order changes, but Saints would still be last - and it's not close... Even the Bills have a much larger market share and it doesn't account for Toronto just across the border in Canada... Any questions now why Goodell was likely happy to see the Saints bounced?!? |
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EACH NFL team received $255.9 million in national revenue. That includes the national TV deals, road-game revenue sharing, and various other national revenue. According to multiple reports, most of the money in the national revenue comes from the TV deals.
Effectively, EVERY NFL owner gets a check for a quarter billion dollars before a single football game is played. The premise about the vast divide between "big market" and "small market" teams, in spite of this revenue sharing, does not hold up to close scrutiny. The NFL's revenue-sharing coupled with the league's hard salary cap promotes substantial competitiveness with 22 of the 32 teams making the playoffs over the past five seasons alone including teams from the lower population areas like New Orleans, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Kansas City, and Cincinnati. |
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Does Herr Goodell feel the same way for the lower tier 5 teams on that list, or are the Saints extra special for him?
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Emphasis I mad is big that pie is to share has a whole helluva lot with the hottest teams draw that year, especially in the Big Game, the SuperBowl... And there are definitely a golden eight that Goodell want to see making deep runs drawing largest of fan bases to the NFL tournament... |
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Any questions now why Goodell was likely happy to see the Saints bounced?!?
He does what the bidding of the owners. They are the ones behind the curtain controlling the Great And Powerful OZ. He's the Master of Misdirection in the NFL Magic Show. He just got an extension didn't he? |
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Just my take but the images showing the most vs least televised teams puts the Saints @ #9 in the league, and the Cowboys have the largest market. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-every-sunday/ It isn't so much market size as it is which markets the NFL chooses to televise teams in. |
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Yes, NW Houston/Katy/Woodlands have an impressive number of WhoDats from the Diaspora, but even still, they're a small minority compared to Houston fans local and fans dispersed about the country... Higher Ratings give leverage to the NFL in television contract negotiations and to Broadcasters in their negotiations with advertisers - ergo, higher ratings means a bigger pie... The League Revenue Sharing Pie, as well Goodell's compensation, is tied to the League being able to leverage for higher advertiser spending when those larger markets show interests in the way of higher ratings... Now I grew up a Celtics fan, Cowens-Hondo-Heinsohn-Jo-Jo then Bird-McHale-Parish and there was no bigger national viewing matchup of Boston-LA... But even I found it a awkward of how ready the productions of the LA-Boston pieces were coming out the day after the conference championships... Productions have to be story-boarded, footage researched, financially secured; then you have to get sports legends footage secured, compensated, produced (though Magic never met a mic he didn't like)... Ratings were down for this Superbowl, but likely due to Patriots apathy (hey, until a teams uses their blueprint and beats them); but make no mistake - there's a high ratings floor when the largest markets are in it... Ratings mean a bigger pie and the big banana in the negotiations ratings debate is the Tournament and SuperBowl... Saints fan or naught, they've the most loyal fan base, especially considering the smallest market share - but numbers are numbers and that's what the bean counters need to justify spending... |
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Ratings were down for this Superbowl, but likely due to Patriots apathy
BUT aren't the Patriots and Rams "LARGE MARKET TEAMS"? Let's throw another can of worms into the "Ratings Pie" ultimately the TV networks provide the filling ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) for the revenue sharing pie. After all if you're giving every team a quarter of a billion dollars you want to have the largest ratings you can get. Who wants it more? The NFL or the TV networks? Who provides the TV networks with the $$$$$$$$$$ they give to the NFL? The sponsors! Who provides the sponsors their money? THE LOWLY FANS! The same LOWLY FANS who hate watching the PATRIOTS. "THE RATINGS WERE DOWN..............PATRIOTS APATHY" So the NFL wants LARGE MARKET TEAMS for Higher Ratings that result in the worst Super Bowl in history and lower ratings? They kept the "SMALL MARKET" Saints out and ensured the "LARGE MARKET" Rams would get in and result in lower ratings. |
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And goodadolf is going to conduct an investigation into the fix , if found guilty he has to move to Venezuela
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I don't but the "Patriots apathy" talk.
Ratings were thru the roof for SB 51 when they came back and beat the Falcons. Ratings for Patriots SBs are usually fine, but this was the first one that was something of a blow out. Sure, the score was tied 3-3 in the 4th quarter, but never at any point did it feel like the Rams were going to win. It would've been 23-3 or worse if the Pats don't screw around on offense all game and get those dropped interceptions (and the fumble that went out of bounds. The Pats were kicking their butts. If a youthful Brady had showed up, this would've been a bloodbath and let's be fair here; New England has been long overdue a Super Bowl where they just kick the ever loving crap out of someone. This was it. This was their SB blow out they have been due for. Blow out SBs generally have bad ratings. No one wanted to watch the Broncos and Panthers, which was also something of a blow out. Despite the score being 13-10 most of the second half, never did you feel like Carolina was going to score. It felt like Denver was up several TDs with how much they were dominating them (if Peyton Manning wasn't a washed up shell of his former Hall of Famer self, Denver would've blew them the hell out). The Seahawks/Broncos SB had horrible ratings too and no one watched that except bandwagon Seahawks fans and Peyton Manning haters. I hate to say it, but New England most likely would've manhandled us too; maybe not as badly as they did the Rams, but I seen nothing in our final month of the season (playoffs included) that told me that they would've beat the Pats. I can already see how it would've went for us - New England would gameplan around shutting down Kamara and MT, then forcing Brees to beat them with the cast of no name receivers who did diddly poo all year. We would've been hoping and praying for our defense to bail us out again. We can keep talking about how we got screwed, but as time goes by, I really don't think we would've won this SB and we did have multiple opportunities in the NFCCG to put it out of reach. I felt we were going to lose as soon as they tied it up 20-20. Something went horribly wrong for our Saints at the end of the year and they never figured it out. The offense broke and coach SP didn't figure out how to fix it. I was dreading the NFCCG just based off how bad they looked against the Eagles. I would just accept a fair beating rather than the non-call. BTW, I hope everyone truly appreciated last year's defense. While the offense was piddling around the last month, t defense bailed us out of every game after the Dallas loss (and nearly bailed us out of that game too). They just couldn't do it one last time against the Rams and losing Rankins on the D-line was a major blow. We had zero sacks in the playoffs after he went down and going up against New England and their o-line, he would've been needed. |
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On your comment about no-name receivers.. that's exactly how we won in 2009. |
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It's probably going to get worse. Der Commissar has been shown to be a clown, the refs have shown to be incompetent while the NFL has shown no remorse and has been the subject of a smear campaign by the Saints, and rightly so.
Yeah... it's going to get worse! Godhell holds a grudge and will be out to get the Saints again with a vengeance! :argue: |
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I fully believe that Goodell wants to have some ability to impact outcomes of games. I think he is intentionally turning a blind eye to fixing some key problems with the NFL if they provide him with the opportunity to increase competitiveness in key games. Competitiveness equals more viewership, which in turn equals more advertising and more potential for increased TV revenues. The NFL is all about the money. They will play games on the moon if it meant more money and every night of the week if they could, regardless of player safety. They would kill players for more money (and they have). They will only make changes for the better if they are financially impacted to do so.
I truly believe the NFL has mandated referees to call games with the intention of keeping them close. If one team is pulling away they get penalized or victimized by non-calls. Whistles go to the other team to keep viewers watching. I'm hesitant to say he is scripting outcomes, but he is for sure using officiating or lack thereof to ensure games stay close and viewers stay tuned in. |
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