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SmashMouth 03-26-2019 07:27 PM

NFL adopts rule change after Saints NFC 'No-call'
 
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The type of game-changing non-call that cost the Saints a likely chance at the Super Bowl will now be reviewable in NFL games.

NFL owners have approved all offensive and defensive pass interference calls, as well as non-calls, to now be challenged, according to multiple reports.

Previously, interference calls, flagged or 'un-flagged' could not be challenged.

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Owners voted for the change on Tuesday night at the NFL owner's meeting in Phoenix, Arizona after a presentation by Saints head coach Sean Payton earlier in the day.


The vote was one of three on pass interference proposals voted on by league owners.

Besides new challenging rules, Payton's proposal, named "Proposal 6B," allows replay assistants to review non-called defensive pass interference -- like what the Saints experienced in their NFC Championship loss against the Los Angeles Rams.

WWLTV



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Payton also told reporters that any rule change should not be limited to postseason. He said the Saints benefited the Pittsburgh Steelers were hurt by a bogus pass interference call on the Steelers which set the Saints up for a touchdown in a game the Steelers badly needed.

It's a philosophical change, proving that Sean Payton's voice carries weight in the league.

“This is what I wanted to happen. That’s why I made my statement. (The non-call in the title game) will never happen again," Gayle Benson said in response to the decision.

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NFL owners passed a rule Tuesday (March 26) that would essentially prevent egregious officiating mistakes like the one that likely cost the New Orleans Saints a berth in the Super Bowl last season.

Starting in the 2019 season, coaches and a replay official will be allowed to challenge called and non-called pass interference penalties like the one Nickell Robey-Coleman levied on Saints wide receiver Tommylee Lewis in final minutes of the NFC Championship Game two months ago.

Coaches will be allowed to challenge the calls and non-calls at any point in the game except the final two minutes. During the final two minutes, a replay official assumes the responsibility of challenging those calls or non-calls.

“It’s a positive change,” said Saints coach Sean Payton, who led the call for change as one of two coaches on the competition committee which presented the rules-change proposal to owners for a vote. “We think it was a good change."

The decision was an upset of sorts. Most NFL insiders and observers thought it would take at least another year of research to effect change. But NFL coaches, led by Saints head coach Sean Payton, united behind the cause and lobbied owners for hours on Monday and presented a new proposal that ultimately was passed by membership on Tuesday afternoon, mere hours before the conclusion of the three-day meeting.

“I don’t think it will impact the way we watch games,” Payton said. “There’s two more calls that we’re going to work to get right, and I think that the room felt real good about that. It fits the system we know and our fans know."
NOLA

SmashMouth 03-26-2019 07:39 PM

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Sean Payton on expanding replay: I think we got it right

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SaintGnome 03-26-2019 08:23 PM

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Meh, will it put us in the SB last year instead the Lambs? No? OK, then what did will it really do? Make the NFL screw us in a different way next time.

SmashMouth 03-26-2019 08:30 PM

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dam1953 03-26-2019 09:13 PM

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I’ll repost this...

And will it be called the “Saints Rule"? Hope so, because that way it will forever remind NFL fans everywhere that we were screwed in 2019.

CHA_CHING 03-26-2019 09:59 PM

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Hope everyone is happy now and we can move the hell on.

frydaddy 03-26-2019 10:30 PM

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Well, it ain't the super bowl, but it's a pretty big win..I'll take it. Thank you NFL for finally getting something right.

Thirty3 03-26-2019 11:20 PM

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Are the refs that got it wrong fired?

saintsfan1976 03-27-2019 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 841542)
Hope everyone is happy now and we can move the hell on.

This was clearly something that had to be done to improve the integrity of play.

It was so important in fact that it happened in ONE offseason. And all owners voted for it.

Your comment comes across a bit like everyone is whining about the outcome. We're not. We're just not standing put while the league continues to be okay with shoddy rules and officiating.

AsylumGuido 03-27-2019 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 841542)
Hope everyone is happy now and we can move the hell on.

Nope. Never moving on and never forgetting.

ChrisXVI 03-27-2019 07:43 AM

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Honestly, the proliferation of pass interference penalties over the last decade or so pretty much ruined football for me. I’m just happy that now teams can do something about it.

gulfgambler 03-27-2019 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 841550)
Nope. Never moving on and never forgetting.

Ditto, Guido.

Haven't moved on or forgot about Bountygate either!
And won't until Gotohell is removed as commissioner.

dam1953 03-27-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 841550)
Nope. Never moving on and never forgetting.

When something valuable is stolen from me, I never forget. It becomes a learning experience.

Beastmode 03-27-2019 10:31 AM

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I would like to see PO games called the same as RS games. Grabbing the best rated refs for the playoffs is wrong IMO. It should be random just like the RS. Keep the consistency. What it tells me is some of their refs are not that good and should really not be calling games at all or, they want they game called different in the PO's. From a young age I noticed PO games are called much different than RS. It's the wrong approach.

jeanpierre 03-27-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 841566)
I would like to see PO games called the same as RS games. Grabbing the best rated refs for the playoffs is wrong IMO. It should be random just like the RS. Keep the consistency. What it tells me is some of their refs are not that good and should really not be calling games at all or, they want they game called different in the PO's. From a young age I noticed PO games are called much different than RS. It's the wrong approach.

Unless a game official is just that inept (I'd question why he's even in that role), continuity in an officiating crew is vital to avoid micro-political group dynamics in the middle of the tournament...

jeanpierre 03-27-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 841552)
Honestly, the proliferation of pass interference penalties over the last decade or so pretty much ruined football for me. I’m just happy that now teams can do something about it.

Because Jim Irsay wouldn't stand for having Bill Belichick's Patriots beating him year in, year out...

Rugby Saint II 03-27-2019 11:02 AM

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YAY!!! Oh wait.....we lost the game. Nothing else matters! :bang:

SaintsBro 03-27-2019 03:07 PM

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Well at least that's happened, which in turn acknowledges that it was in fact a major screwup. Still, as JeannePierre rightly pointed out elsewhere, they really need to make a rule that referees in playoff games can't have connections to the teams or cities involved. It's insane to think that an ex-Rams player should be calling a Rams playoff game. It just shouldn't happen, if only for the appearance of propriety and fairness.

foreverfan 03-27-2019 05:25 PM

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Prepare for 3 holding calls instead....

neugey 03-27-2019 06:04 PM

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I have mixed feelings about this. Yes, I think something needed to be done, but they kind of opened the floodgates and they really didn't need to. There will be some unintended consequences that are going to be eye-sores. Remember, all scoring plays are reviewed. Just wait until a TD gets reversed due to a borderline push-off by the WR or TE and those points come off the board at a pivotal point. Things could get ugly, folks.

Where they REALLY NEEDED to start was make ALL PERSONAL SAFETY issues (personal foul type calls) reviewable. That would have taken care of our issue with the obvious helmet to helmet on TLL. The Dallas helmet to helmet on Kamara. And the BS roughing the passer calls, they could be reviewed and the flag picked up (thinking the Clay Matthews calls and the Brady shoulder pad brush in the AFC Championship game, among countless others). IMO it's the personal foul phantom calls and missed calls which is the greatest sore spot in NFL officiating. I like the way the NBA stops play and proactively reviews replay before following through with a flagrant foul call.

WhoDat!656 03-27-2019 07:03 PM

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NFL Operations points out Saints also benefited from a big interference call

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...rference-call/

SmashMouth 03-27-2019 07:52 PM

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CHA_CHING 03-29-2019 01:40 PM

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I've had some time to think about this lately and wanted to share my thoughts.

This feels like a knee jerk reaction blaming that loss solely on the non-call and I don't really agree with that. We remember when the Vikings wanted the rules of OT changed after we beat them in the 2009 NFCCG. That too was a knee jerk reaction and I hate to make that comparison. I don't think we lost solely on one missed call, but that's beyond the point. We can discuss that game another time and what went wrong.

Last year we led the league in defensive pass interference penalties with 20 total. This rule change will lead to coaches challenges pass interference and non-calls of it. It could easily come back to haunt us, which is my main concern here. Given our issues with defensive pass interference, I jokingly commented last year on another forum that one of my biggest fears was Eli Apple or someone drawing a ridiculous pass interference penalty. I wasn't surprised to learn that we led the league in this last year.

DBs have never been more important than now with rule changes like that. I think about pick plays and how pass interference could be challenged now on those kinds of plays. If you watched Kansas City much last year, I believe they were the one team that ran pick plays more than anyone else. There were multiple cases of them in the AFCCG. WRs are being trained now to watch for this and make space for such a play.

The one good thing though is that coaches still only have 3 challenges so you have to really think about challenging it now.

Not really sure how I feel about this rule change. I have a bad feeling it can lead to some serious consequences.

CHA_CHING 03-29-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 841605)
NFL Operations points out Saints also benefited from a big interference call

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...rference-call/

I'll be the first and probably the only one to admit that we benefited from serious calls in that Steelers game.

Early in the game, there was that tick-tacky pass interference penalty in the end zone on a big play that put us 1st and goal ready to punch it in. That call could've been reversed by challenge of the new rule. I thought it was tick tacky but I didn't complain cause we rarely ever get the benefit of bad calls aiding us.

Our offense just went flat in the second half after we were up 24-14. We were kicking the crap out of them in the first half. I was thinking to myself 'YES! Finally! The offense has woken up and they are about to throttle this team!'

Then the second half commenced and it was just like every game since after Thanksgiving - offense unable to do anything and the defense trying their absolute best to bail them out.

Give credit to the defense cause they literally were trying to move heaven and earth to make us win that game while the offense piddled around the entire second half. The defense managed to get multiple stops, including a huge 4th down stop AND a turnover. (and would later seal the game with another turnover.) meanwhile the offense continued to piddle around unable to re-take the lead, or earlier when they could've put the game out of reach by scoring another TD or two.

That pass interference penalty helped us get that last TD and win the game.

This is what I was talking about in previous posts on here that something went really wrong for our offense beginning with the Dallas game and we never recovered. Dallas seemed to expose us and then every team followed suit with the same defensive game plan. That Pittsburgh game was our final highest scoring game for the year, and yet we barely got to 30 points that day. They had our offense completely shut down in the second half.... something the Rams did in the NFCCG as we went on to do nothing after going up 20-10.

I don't know what went wrong for us after November, but something did. Brees went from an MVP candidate to looking like Peyton Manning at the end of 2014 where Manning had slipped off a cliff and Denver went from having a high scoring offense to relying on their defense to bail them out of games at the end of the year.

IMO my own theory is that we didn't have enough weapons on offense to scare teams with. Dallas showed the world that if you could figure a way to limit Kamara and Michael Thomas, then there was no one left to be afraid of. I am hoping like hell we have a better receiver corps next year to remedy this problem.


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