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SmashMouth 04-29-2019 06:27 PM

Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades
 
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The New Orleans Saints went into the 2019 NFL Draft with only one pick in the first four rounds because of a series of trades that brought them defensive end Marcus Davenport, backup quarterback Teddy Bridgewater and starting cornerback Eli Apple. And still, the Saints selected three players they had in the top 70 on their draft board.

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For next year, the Saints already are without a second-round pick because of another trade, the one that allowed them to move up in the second round Friday (April 26) so they could select interior offensive lineman Erik McCoy out of Texas A&M.

The Saints also are without a seventh-round pick for the 2020 NFL Draft because that was part of the deal the Saints made to get Apple from the New York Giants last season.

The Saints have a history of using picks from the next year’s draft as a way to move up when they get a player they want to pursue. The Saints have traded up 17 times since 2007, which also is the last year they made a trade down to acquire more picks for later in the draft. Seven of those trades included a pick for the next year’s draft.


Many teams have their own approach to the draft. Some, like the Cleveland Browns in recent years, have stockpiled draft picks by regularly trading down. The New England Patriots, however, are a team that will let players leave as free agents so they can accrue a high number of compensatory picks.

The Saints in 2017 traded away the next year’s second-round pick so they could move up in the third round to select two-time Pro Bowl running back Alvin Kamara. In 2018, the Saints shipped off their first-round pick for the next year so they could move up 13 spots needed to select the pass-rushing Davenport at No. 14 overall.

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Supertek 04-30-2019 08:10 AM

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This teams executives want another Championship now. I think after what happened last year especially I am with them all the way. Call it fate or whatever you want but I think we need to just put it all out there. When you have been cheated you are going to fight back no matter how the other teams look at this it is because they have not had to deal with it. I can say Pittsburgh was also slammed by a bad call and we have to move on but the taste left lingers for a long time.

foreverfan 04-30-2019 08:39 AM

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The school is still out on Davenport and Bridgewater, but the best pick in this years draft was starting CB Eli Apple.

K Major 04-30-2019 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 843764)
The school is still out on Davenport and Bridgewater, but we his a home run on Apple.

Teddy has the potential to become our QB of the future. Something that didn't exist on our roster prior to his arrival in New Orleans.

SaintGnome 04-30-2019 06:55 PM

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"Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades"
So?

saintsfan1976 04-30-2019 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 843803)
"Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades"
So?

My thoughts, exactly. :bandg:

voodooido 04-30-2019 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 843765)
Teddy has the potential to become our QB of the future. Something that didn't exist on our roster prior to his arrival in New Orleans.

TB has never been a starting quality quarterback. In his two starting years he had 28 tds, 23 ints and only 6100 yards. Unless SP can work magic TB will never be anything but a quality backup

K Major 04-30-2019 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 843809)
TB has never been a starting quality quarterback. In his two starting years he had 28 tds, 23 ints and only 6100 yards. Unless SP can work magic TB will never be anything but a quality backup

Sean Payton has had a full year to work with him. They've seen him in film study, practice and in meetings.

But I think SP and this staff have a lot more insight and knowledge about all the aspects of the decision than any of us do.

Beastmode 04-30-2019 09:27 PM

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And how has this hurt us? Being loaded with picks means the team sucks profusely. A recipe of failure.

BakoSaint 05-01-2019 01:17 AM

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I dont like trading up, especially with future picks. The Patriots do the opposite and accumulate picks, but why emulate a team that has been to 9 straight conference championships? Basically when you trade away future picks that are worth half the value of a present year pick at the same round, its like taking out a payday loan and paying 100% interesting in a year. Its a sucker bet that throws away long term value for the franchise because coaches and gms dont feel secure they will still have the job long enough to make the future picks. If it was all about winning now thats one thing, but then why spend the picks on raw projects and dubious qb of the future? Bridgewater is a nice kid but his stats were never amazing, his injury was catastrophic, and qbs with as much or more potential like rose , foles, etc come available all the time, especially for a coach like payton who qbs would like to work with.

SmashMouth 05-01-2019 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 843812)
And how has this hurt us? Being loaded with picks means the team sucks profusely. A recipe of failure.

New England says hello?

AsylumGuido 05-01-2019 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 843820)
New England says hello?

New England also has a very low hit percentage on their picks. They are among the most active in free agency, however. Mainly they have Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and play in the AFC East (which has meant the most to their annual success) which keeps them relevant.

K Major 05-01-2019 12:24 PM

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New England are Outliers.

No other team in the league can do what they do every year.

Barry from MS 05-01-2019 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 843846)
New England are Outliers.

No other team in the league can do what they do every year.

Absolutely right. No team can do what they do every year. And that's the way the NFL wants it. Patriots = $$$. Don't think so? See how the ratings do for primetime Pats games vs pitting 2 small market teams together on prime time.

Equally important the Pats dominate since both NYC teams have sucked for so long. Having a team like us dominate for so long is bad business here in the poor ol dirty south.

AsylumGuido 05-01-2019 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 843853)
Absolutely right. No team can do what they do every year. And that's the way the NFL wants it. Patriots = $$$. Don't think so? See how the ratings do for primetime Pats games vs pitting 2 small market teams together on prime time.

Equally important the Pats dominate since both NYC teams have sucked for so long. Having a team like us dominate for so long is bad business here in the poor ol dirty south.

I saw that the ratings for the LIE Super Bowl with the Pats was way down in ratings.

Cruize 05-01-2019 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 843846)
New England are Outliers.

No other team in the league can do what they do every year.

BB and his staff gets the absolute most out of their roster every year. And having an almost guaranteed six wins in the division doesn't hurt.

AsylumGuido 05-01-2019 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 843874)
BB and his staff gets the absolute most out of their roster every year. And having an almost guaranteed six wins in the division doesn't hurt.

Bingo!!

Barry from MS 05-01-2019 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 843871)
I saw that the ratings for the LIE Super Bowl with the Pats was way down in ratings.

Ratings for SB & the NFL in general have been a downward trend since bout XLVI. Part of that is online streaming and the NFL's failure to adapt but I've gone sideways. Shouldn't have just fired with 'ratings' as my stand alone argument but I was lazy & wanted brevity in the post. Figured most would get the general idea. Should have included popularity, merchandising, licensing, ticket/vendor sales, etc...unless you want me to keep listing?

Point is, as a business (which the NFL is certainly), it is more profitable for big market teams to be successful than us, Jax, Nashville, etc. If you're inclined to turning big piles of $ to bigger piles of $$$, more times than not you're skipping NO & TB for NYC & LA.

Oh yeah, and I sidetracked bout the 2nd & 7th Rd picks we lose for next year. My bad. We'll be fine.

Rugby Saint II 05-03-2019 12:37 PM

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Well....we're screwed I guess.:roll: We better win it all this year.....

jeanpierre 05-03-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 844076)
Well....we're screwed I guess.:roll: We better win it all this year.....


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jeanpierre 05-03-2019 07:18 PM

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