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SmashMouth 05-26-2019 08:54 AM

Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
After the first three days of OTAs, NFL teams are all about managing expectations. The hot-shot rookie wideout may not look that good once pads and looming safeties itching to tackle are added to the mix, while new offensive lineman struggling early are still getting used to the cadence, chemistry and playbook of a new team.

But pads or not, three days in with his new team or three hundred, it’s hard to stand at Jared Cook’s locker and gaze upon all 6-foot-5, 254 pounds of his Pro Bowl physique, which could challenge several defensive linemen in his new locker room, and not think of the endless possibilities he and Brees could conjure up this season.

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“I’d read a lot of good things about him before he got here, but he’s certainly impressed us these first couple of days,” Brees said Thursday after the culmination of the team’s first three-day OTA. “He’s got a great feel for the game, and I think he’s going to fit very well in our offense.

“He’s got great length, so he’s got a big catch radius. You feel confident with those 50-50 balls. You feel like there’s a lot of places where you can throw if where he can get it and the other guy can’t. Anytime you have a target like that, you feel like that’s a good matchup.”

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Rugby Saint II 05-28-2019 11:59 AM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
My money says that he can. It was obvious that Drew needed another safety valve last year. Well, we got him!

AsylumGuido 05-28-2019 12:03 PM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
Last year my favorite acquisition at the time was Demario Davis. I truly felt he would have the most impact of any incoming player. I was not disappointed at all. Jared Cook is the 2019 version of Davis, as far as I am concerned. I fully expect him to be a true difference maker, as was Davis, and help in a very material way in winning another Lombardi.

jeanpierre 05-28-2019 12:04 PM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
Safety Valve? Cook had better be a weapon, not just same safety valve...

vpheughan 05-28-2019 12:19 PM

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Cook had better be a weapon, not just same safety valve...

After all he cost us two.............Ohhhhh!

dam1953 05-28-2019 12:22 PM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
If he has the size, speed, range and hands of Jimmy G AND can block, as well that's just lagniappe.

Consider that his pre-draft combine numbers we equal to or better than Watson's and Graham's except for the vertical jump where he was 6" better. This means he is probably the best tight end Brees' has had as a Saint. I have a feeling that Cook is going to be a major factor in the O.

K Major 05-28-2019 12:30 PM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
Jared consistently produced in a dysfunctional offense with Oakland. Unique player that can line up in multiple spots.

Now he's playing for a legit SB contender. He'll do well in this offense with Brees.

dam1953 05-28-2019 02:18 PM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 845642)
Jared consistently produced in a dysfunctional offense with Oakland. Unique player that can line up in multiple spots.

Now he's playing for a legit SB contender. He'll do well in this offense with Brees.

Brees has a long history of making the average good and the good great. Expect more of the same...

rezburna 05-28-2019 04:03 PM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 845642)
Jared consistently produced in a dysfunctional offense with Oakland. Unique player that can line up in multiple spots.

Now he's playing for a legit SB contender. He'll do well in this offense with Brees.

The miraculous catch he made in Green Bay against Dallas comes to mind.

jeanpierre 06-02-2019 01:32 AM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
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Originally Posted by dam1953 (Post 845639)
If he has the size, speed, range and hands of Jimmy G AND can block, as well that's just lagniappe.

Consider that his pre-draft combine numbers we equal to or better than Watson's and Graham's except for the vertical jump where he was 6" better. This means he is probably the best tight end Brees' has had as a Saint. I have a feeling that Cook is going to be a major factor in the O.

Cook wasn't signed to block...

jeanpierre 06-02-2019 01:34 AM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
Wow...gotta love these matchups...

Mike Thomas vs their Best CB

Ted Ginn vs their Free Safety

Jared Cook vs their Strong Safety

Tre'Quan Smith vs their other Cornerback

Big Keith Kirkwood vs their Nickel

And LBers left to cover Alvin Kamara?

Drew may see more Dime this season than all the other seasons combined...

AsylumGuido 06-02-2019 07:49 AM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 845887)
Wow...gotta love these matchups...

Mike Thomas vs their Best CB

Ted Ginn vs their Free Safety

Jared Cook vs their Strong Safety

Tre'Quan Smith vs their other Cornerback

Big Keith Kirkwood vs their Nickel

And LBers left to cover Alvin Kamara?

Drew may see more Dime this season than all the other seasons combined...

Nobody would cover Kamara because he would have to be on the bench with those previous five players on the field. You can only have five offensive players other than the five linemen and the QB.

;)

jeanpierre 06-02-2019 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 845897)
Nobody would cover Kamara because he would have to be on the bench with those previous five players on the field. You can only have five offensive players other than the five linemen and the QB.

;)

That's the point - Saints have plenty of weapons...

TheOak 06-02-2019 12:46 PM

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Lots of pressure on one man that didn't have much to say about what was given up for him or how he will be utilized...

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jeanpierre 06-03-2019 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 845904)
Lots of pressure on one man that didn't have much to say about what was given up for him or how he will be utilized...

Yeah, a lot is riding, but with the other weapons, he at least doesn't have to carry the offense. The investment in Davenport, failing to start developing a center sooner, the decisions became more consequential than planned...

So it was gonna be Free Agency all along, even before overspending draft capital; it wasn't like there was a great TE market, though I liked what we had even before we signed him, he's insurance with his NFL experience...

K Major 06-03-2019 07:53 AM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
Jared Cook vs their Strong Safety ...

Take your eye off Cook for a split second ... substantial gain and/or TD.

jeanpierre 06-03-2019 07:56 AM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 845945)
Jared Cook vs their Strong Safety ...

Take your eye off Cook for a split second ... substantial gain and/or TD.

And that's the thing; it's not like the ATL where you take away Julio or Planet Houston, take away Hopkins - Brees makes every receiver a threat...

ChrisXVI 06-07-2019 05:18 PM

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CHA_CHING 06-07-2019 06:41 PM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
Everything really depends on Brees at 40 years old. With how bad his production numbers tanked at the end of last year, it's a legit concern.

I know QBs are playing longer now, but there comes a time when the decline hits. Peyton Manning looked unstoppable until late in the 2014 season when his decline began. Remember Brett Favre in 2009? Legit MVP contender and then fell off a cliff the next year. Manning and Favre both posted their career worst seasons in their final year. One of them was just lucky to be playing on a team with a historic defense.

Even Brady wasn't really all that great last year. The Pats change their offense often depending on what their skilled strengths are. With an aged Brady and lack of deep threat receivers, they went back to running the ball heavily and Sony Michel became their offensive MVP. The Pats looked like their 2001-2004 selves last year with Brady doing mostly game managing.

It's been the high football IQ as to why Brees, Brady and even Manning were all able to play so long and put up amazing seasons when they should've been declining.

I think Payton has been anticipated this in advance and has been working to adjust our offense since 2017. There has been progress made to adjust into a new style of offense that don't rely on Brees to throw it 40 times a game.

Rugby Saint II 06-09-2019 10:38 AM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 845946)
And that's the thing; it's not like the ATL where you take away Julio or Planet Houston, take away Hopkins - Brees makes every receiver a threat...




That wasn't true last year when they couldn't get on the same page and Drew wasn't connecting with the receivers. He can make good players look great but even he can't polish a turd and make it shine. Not that these guys are turds but they played like crap last year.

Hopefully, this year everyone is on the same page.

K Major 08-03-2019 07:09 AM

Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes
 
Bump ...

Cook has been as good as advertised. Some writers even used the term "dominant" at practice.


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