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SmashMouth 06-08-2019 08:18 AM

Saints Need Drew Brees' Successor
 

CheramieIII 06-08-2019 08:58 AM

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Getsom Taysom!

jnormand 06-08-2019 04:20 PM

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Who the **** is this guy? Lol. Smash is that you? Because if it is, you need to work on your public speaking skills and why are you looking at notes to remind you of stuff you should already know? And you're ugly.

The Dude 06-08-2019 04:31 PM

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Yea who is this doofus? Is he behind a podium in his moms basement? These armchair QBs have no idea what is going on in the huddle along the offensive line when the players are as beat up as they were last year. Is he privy to Brees medical record or is he just taking it for granted that Brees was healthy the last quarter of the season? (I have my suspicion he wasn’t)
Yes he may be in decline but we really won’t know how much he has dropped off, if at all until we see him this year.
I’m sure having only one reliable receiving threat didn’t have anything to do with it either.
I only watched about 20 seconds which is about how much time it took for this guy to lose his train of though while trying to make hand gestures and talk at the same time.
Yes it’s time to find a replacement but that’s just a given at Brees age. Decline or no.

TheOak 06-08-2019 05:18 PM

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So woke.

The Dude 06-08-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 846323)
Getsom Taysom!

Would be awesome if we could be the first team to successfully pull off a long term QB tandem in Taysom and TB. Yin and Yang, vanilla and chocolate, white bread and corn fed, etc.
And no I do not mean for these names to be derogatory.

CHA_CHING 06-08-2019 07:21 PM

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My dream scenario is that kid from Clemson, Trevor Lawrence. He is going to be the next Peyton Manning as long as injuries don't get in the way.

Rugby Saint II 06-09-2019 10:24 AM

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I respectfully disagree about Drew. Even when his arm strength does weaken he can still manage the team successfully while we find his replacement if it's not TB.

Payton has a plan and this is one thing he won't gamble on. I like Teddy and we resigned him. So it looks obvious that the Saints like hi enough as insurance in case Drew goes down. Is he the future? I don't know.

Whoever it is will have a good O-line and running game to help them learn the ropes. Go Saints! :bng:

SmashMouth 06-09-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 846338)
My dream scenario is that kid from Clemson, Trevor Lawrence. He is going to be the next Peyton Manning as long as injuries don't get in the way.

Trevor and his long hair would look great in a Saints uniform.

Make it happen Loomis!

st thomas 06-09-2019 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 846356)
Trevor and his long hair would look great in a Saints uniform.



Make it happen Loomis!



I were thinking the same thing when he was connecting passes with six guys in his face. Just a stud with no fear in his wheelhouse. He’s the guy I believe. But will Payton can a season to draft him , no

foreverfan 06-09-2019 07:25 PM

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That video was posted on Jan 26, 2019.

Err... we played better defenses at the end of the season.

Old age...? I'm 60 and can still throw it further then when I was 10.

https://forums.cybernations.net/appl...5b78790f4fa5b3

CHA_CHING 06-10-2019 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 846356)
Trevor and his long hair would look great in a Saints uniform.

Make it happen Loomis!

Cannot believe he was on a freshman last year.

Something special about that kid. I haven't felt so confident about a college QB since watching Peyton Manning in Tennessee. He reminds me of a young Manning.

jeanpierre 06-10-2019 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 846334)
Would be awesome if we could be the first team to successfully pull off a long term QB tandem in Taysom and TB. Yin and Yang, vanilla and chocolate, white bread and corn fed, etc.
And no I do not mean for these names to be derogatory.

That is a nightmare I want no part...

jeanpierre 06-10-2019 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 846356)
Trevor and his long hair would look great in a Saints uniform...

https://media.giphy.com/media/dxomQFCm5sFI4/giphy.gif

hitta 06-10-2019 06:55 AM

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I'm not convinced that Drew's decline last year was a result of age. I believe he injured something in the Dallas game and played hurt all year. I mean if you go back and watch the game, he literally lost some of the velocity on his passes during the game. He probably did something to his shoulder as he has tweaked his shoulder in the past while with us and seems prone to shoulder injuries. Drew will probably come back this year, have the velocity on his passes and everyone will be like "Drew looks like a new man.. blah blah".

st thomas 06-10-2019 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 846384)
I'm not convinced that Drew's decline last year was a result of age. I believe he injured something in the Dallas game and played hurt all year. I mean if you go back and watch the game, he literally lost some of the velocity on his passes during the game. He probably did something to his shoulder as he has tweaked his shoulder in the past while with us and seems prone to shoulder injuries. Drew will probably come back this year, have the velocity on his passes and everyone will be like "Drew looks like a new man.. blah blah".



He got bulldozed in the game before against Atlanta . That’s where I believe he hurt something , a rib , shoulder , etc. u will never no.

CHA_CHING 06-11-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 846384)
I'm not convinced that Drew's decline last year was a result of age. I believe he injured something in the Dallas game and played hurt all year. I mean if you go back and watch the game, he literally lost some of the velocity on his passes during the game. He probably did something to his shoulder as he has tweaked his shoulder in the past while with us and seems prone to shoulder injuries. Drew will probably come back this year, have the velocity on his passes and everyone will be like "Drew looks like a new man.. blah blah".

He was 39 years old turning 40.

It happens.

This is pretty much how Peyton Manning and Brett Favre declined.

Brees' decline last year is almost a complete mirror image of Manning in 2014. Both of them collapsed in week 11. The Broncos had to play the Rams, whom totally exposed their offense and held them to just 7 points. We played Dallas, who practically slapped us around all night and held us to just 10 points.

After that game, Manning was never the same again. Denver transitioned from a juggernaut offense, to just barely winning games and relying on their defense to do all the heavy lifting and make key plays. They lost to the Colts in the playoffs in a game where their defense did everything in the second half, getting 2 turnovers and multiple stops just trying to pull that game out, meanwhile the offense couldn't muster a positive drive.

Broncos fans said Manning was injured in 2014 too. Something was wrong with his foot (and perhaps this was true, cause his foot work was not the same in the second half of the season) but the damage was already done. 2015 he was a complete ghost of his former self and had the worst statistical season of a starting QB who went on to win the SB.

The same thing happened to us after the Dallas loss. We went from a high flying offense, to ranked 31st and 32nd in offensive production for the next 3 weeks and we were relying on the defense to keep games close and even win them outright with game changing plays. This continued in the playoffs when they bailed us out against the Eagles after we did everything to just barely score 20 points and keep Philly in that game.

I'm praying Brees don't have a collapse like Manning, cause in 2015 that was pretty sad to watch Denver carrying his corpse to a ring. But I'm only bringing this up because the decline WILL happen, as it happens to everyone. Age catches up with everyone eventually. Favre and Brady at 40 were both legit MVP contenders and they also fell.

Speaking of Brady, if you pull his advanced stats from last year, he was not one of the top QBs and had a steep decline over 2017 when he was in the top 3. He was 41 years old and the decline was obviously seen in his percentage completion beyond 20 yards. When Brady is chucking it over the middle beyond 20 yards, he's basically throwing it up for grabs. The Pats were smart to dump Brandin Cooks and then completely change their offensive scheme around a run-heavy set up and utilizing play action and short yardage passing. Sony Michel was the offensive MVP for them last year and they straight up killed the Chargers and Chiefs in the playoffs running screens. They aren't fools, they know Brady has declined and they had to do something to change their offense to accommodate for a 41 year old QB. It also helped that the Pats were able to quickly fix their defensive woes last year, so they wouldn't have to rely on a 41 year old QB to score 30-40 points to win games, like their SB loss to Philly came down to.

I'm pretty sure Payton is thinking the same thing and that has been why our offense has been shifting from less pass-heavy and to more run based. Fans complained all through 2017 cause Brees didn't have a monster game with 400-500 passing yards and 5 TDs, but that was done intentionally to accommodate for his age. We need to be thankful this team has invested in o-line and they've made drastic improvements to fix the defense. These will be the keys if we get close to another SB.

The Dude 06-12-2019 02:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 846384)
I'm not convinced that Drew's decline last year was a result of age. I believe he injured something in the Dallas game and played hurt all year. I mean if you go back and watch the game, he literally lost some of the velocity on his passes during the game. He probably did something to his shoulder as he has tweaked his shoulder in the past while with us and seems prone to shoulder injuries. Drew will probably come back this year, have the velocity on his passes and everyone will be like "Drew looks like a new man.. blah blah".

I think we have both been saying this since late last season. The fact the offensive line was so beat up didn’t help his performance. Wouldn’t surprise me if he had a career year.

st thomas 06-12-2019 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 846545)
I think we have both been saying this since late last season. The fact the offensive line was so beat up didn’t help his performance. Wouldn’t surprise me if he had a career year.



Agree agree dilly dilly

K Major 06-12-2019 02:45 PM

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Wait,

Didn't Brees end the 2018 season as the #2 ranked QB and a QBR of 80.8 only behind Pat Mahomes?

Nevermind ... for all of you PFF stat enthusiasts, open linky.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...he-nfl-in-2018

SmashMouth 06-13-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 846379)

Trevor Lawrence says he would “never” sit out a bowl game

https://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wor...0&h=316&crop=1

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Clemson quarterback Trevor Lawrence is talented enough that he could have been the first overall pick in the NFL draft this year, or could be next year — except that NFL rules say he’s not eligible for the drafter until 2021. But Lawrence says there’s no way he’ll sit out to save himself for the pros.

In fact, not only would Lawrence not sit out a season, he insists he’ll never even sit out a game. Lawrence told ESPN he wouldn’t sit out the last bowl game of his last year in college.

“Sitting out bowl games and stuff, that’ll never be me,” Lawrence said. “You won’t have to worry about writing those stories.”

Lawrence isn’t shy about his ambitions in the NFL.

“I want to be the best to ever play quarterback,” Lawrence said.

But he’ll have two more years in college before he can play in the NFL. And he says they’ll be two full years, bowl games and all.

K Major 06-13-2019 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 846338)
My dream scenario is that kid from Clemson, Trevor Lawrence. He is going to be the next Peyton Manning as long as injuries don't get in the way.

That is what I thought when Payton Lynch came out of the 2016 draft class. Success in college don't always translate to the the pros.

Just a crap shoot with these QB's.

jeanpierre 06-13-2019 10:53 AM

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Lawrence is the real deal. Like Peyton Manning real deal.

vpheughan 06-13-2019 10:55 AM

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Payton Lynch? a FREAUXDIAN SLIP?

K Major 06-13-2019 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 846591)
Lawrence is the real deal. Like Peyton Manning real deal.

Guess what QB coming from the 2019 draft class Gil Brandt has compared to Peyton Manning? Take one guess without googling.


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