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WW_Who_Dat 08-10-2019 11:44 AM

Re: Saints vs Vikings Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 850347)
I can tell that 75% of the players that played 90% of the game won't even be on the opening roster. Trying to surmise anything about the team is foolish at this point. Offensive and defensive squads are only as good as their weakest link and around a third of the current 90 man roster are weak links that are playing the majority of the snaps.

All true but the 2 players that were being discussed will be on the team without question and they played well.

Latavius is a great addition I don't get all the nay sayers. Different style from Ingram but to me a better skill set fit for the offense ... opinion.

Bridgewater looked comfortable and made some good throws. Held the ball too long on several occasions and did not seem inclined to leave the pocket. Probably mission statement at this point. He's not Brees but again who is ... caution opinion ... I think there is only 1 maybe 2 QB's that have level understanding and command of their offense and the game to execute at Brees level. We have been very lucky as fans to have Brees and Peyton together.

Barry from MS 08-10-2019 11:48 AM

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I'm no astrophysicist but I know that space is pretty big.

We're not the scouting dept or coaching staff, but we know bad football play when we see it. Pat Swilling said the pass rush was bad...he's a subject matter expert. But we didn't need his word for it to come to that conclusion.

st thomas 08-10-2019 11:50 AM

Re: Saints vs Vikings Game Day Thread
 
If Harris keeps that up for 4 preseason games the ole man sherrells asre is pukkering.

WW_Who_Dat 08-10-2019 11:55 AM

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Teddy Bridgewater has solid outing against his former team
Charean Williams,ProFootball Talk on NBC Sports 14 hours ago


Teddy Bridgewater had a chance to leave for Miami in the offseason. He chose to return for another season behind Drew Brees in New Orleans.

With Brees sitting out the preseason opener Friday night, Bridgewater got a chance to start against the team that drafted him 32nd overall in 2014.

Bridgewater, 26, played the entire first half against the Vikings. The Saints ran 33 plays and gained 168 yards in the first half, with Bridgewater turning a 14-12 halftime deficit over to third-string quarterback Taysom Hill. The Vikings won the game, 34-25.

Bridgewater went 14-for-19 for 134 yards, a touchdown and a 110.3 passer rating.

His touchdown pass came in the two-minute drill, an 18-yarder to Dan Arnold with 44 seconds left in the half. His two-point pass attempt, though, was incomplete.

Bridgewater spent four seasons in Minnesota before signing with the Jets as a free agent. The Jets traded him to the Saints before the start of last season.

K Major 08-10-2019 12:00 PM

Re: Saints vs Vikings Game Day Thread
 
- Really liked what I saw from Ozigbo (avg 6.7 ypc). In limited action, he looked good. And stop it with the Latavius Murray bashing ... not only is he a bull dozer, he has explosion with the one cut more. He made 5, 6 yards out of virtually nothing on a couple of runs.

- Teddy B is sharp and has really matured. Accurate thrower of the football. Outside of holding on to the ball a second too long, he played a good game. MN announcers mentioned it a lot of times how he's matured as a QB. Well ahead of Taysom at this point.

- Erik McKoy - quietly solid all night long. Solid for a rookie center.

Cut that tackle Newhouse. He's a walking turn style and will get a QB seriously injured.

D line - uuuggh. Serious concerns here. Zero outside pass rush. Nothing from Davenport, Mario Edwards or T Rex last night. Stallworth was just a hair late but he has some good moments. Technique has to get better by all. Easy to see why we were interested in Ziggy Ansah and Quinn. I still don't see the replacement for Alex Okafor on the roster yet.

- Dan Arnold - meh. Too up and down, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde for my taste. I don't see him as nothing more than a #3 TE.

CGJ and Hampton were relatively quiet ... Chauncey did make a nice tackle on special teams and also tackled the guy to prevent a 2 pt conversion.

- Grayson and the Assumption kid impressed me on special teams. Cyril is a weapon with that speed.

- PRob was burned like a brisket by 2nd teamer who will be working at LA Fitness in Sept. Not sure if it was rust or what but man ...

All in all, only pre season game 1. Hopefully we get to see more of the rookies (including E Butler) in the next game.

Keep grinding.

st thomas 08-10-2019 12:06 PM

Re: Saints vs Vikings Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 850352)
I'm no astrophysicist but I know that space is pretty big.

We're not the scouting dept or coaching staff, but we know bad football play when we see it. Pat Swilling said the pass rush was bad...he's a subject matter expert. But we didn't need his word for it to come to that conclusion.



Look at the story of 2 teams last nite we are not set on subs. It’s a lot to clean up ala Payton. Their D backs played man we played soft coverage it tells nothing . But it is what we saw. Minn is ahead of the game. Our receivers were covered like polyester curtains . Theirs roamed free like buffalo on the prairies.

TheOak 08-10-2019 12:10 PM

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Damn... If the team played as defensive as some fans, it would have been a shut out. I complimented you guys lol.

Preseason is an evaluation period not a competitive period, it is solely to decide what 37 players will not have a roster spot on September 1st. No one is playing full speed except for players trying to not be part of the 37. You can get a good bit of evaluation on those players but nothing team oriented or from the starters. Not to mention our defense takes 3 regular season games to get on step every year.

Only a fool would put what they plan to do in the regular season on display in the preseason...

'I am scared to say what I saw'... Am I going to need witness protection or something?:bng:

If you haven't put money down, then you are blowing smoke up your own ass about what you think you know. Seriously, I have seen predictions on the outcome of the first quarter of the season.

Beastmode 08-10-2019 12:13 PM

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Grayson to me was never really a longshot. He's been on two teams already and he was really close. That was a massive catch then he had a sweet end around that got flagged by a dufus OL hold on the opposite side. WTF? There was a lot of that going on. Penalties that served no purpose and killed drives. Looking to see that crap cleaned up asap.

Barry from MS 08-10-2019 12:17 PM

Re: Saints vs Vikings Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 850355)
- Really liked what I saw from Ozigbo (avg 6.7 ypc). In limited action, he looked good. And stop it with the Latavius Murray bashing ... not only is he a bull dozer, he has explosion with the one cut more. He made 5, 6 yards out of virtually nothing on a couple of runs.

- Erik McKoy - quietly solid all night long. Solid for a rookie center.

Cut that tackle Newhouse. He's a walking turn style and will get a QB seriously injured.

D line - uuuggh. Serious concerns here. Zero outside pass rush. Nothing from Davenport, Mario Edwards or T Rex last night. Stallworth was just a hair late but he has some good moments. Technique has to get better by all. Easy to see why we were interested in Ziggy Ansah and Quinn. I still don't see the replacement for Alex Okafor on the roster yet.

- Dan Arnold - meh. Too up and down, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde for my taste. I don't see him as nothing more than a #3 TE.

All in all, only pre season game 1. Hopefully we get to see more of the rookies (including E Butler) in the next game.

Keep grinding.

Ozigbo is gonna be a nice addition. Murray will be, too. Murray impressed me.

Bridgewater has got what it takes to be the heir apparent.

McCoy was effective, plus no bad mistakes.

Newhouse isn't the answer to back up Armstead. At all.

DLine without Cam is below average. Run D is average, but pass rush is really bad.

Arnold < Derby...concentration issues.

Wanna see more Butler, Ozigbo, Hampton, CGJ, Lil'Jordan, Elliss, Davenport & less of Kamara, MT.

ChrisXVI 08-10-2019 12:42 PM

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There aren’t enough good OT’s for every team to have competent starters... let alone good backups. It’s Newhouse or Ola.


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