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st thomas 08-28-2019 08:17 AM

THE ROAMING EYE
 
Is anyone expecting anything more then another slow start out of the box from our beloved Saints.

Here’s the eye thing , there’s other games that I’m getting more drawn to then my own saints and it’s the clowns that start with the Rams The panties and the vikes . The yucks (Winston looked like shiiit in preseason )against the 9ers It’s a measuring tool for me . Could the whole division start with L’s .
We all know it has to be the division that propelled us to the promised land.

foreverfan 08-28-2019 09:15 AM

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You think? I say 16-0.

SaintFanInATLHELL 08-28-2019 10:08 AM

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As the front runner, the Saints really don't have to worry about other teams in the division for the moment. Virtually all of the issues in the division occur in the second half of the season. For the 1st half games 2-5 with LA Rams, Seattle, Dallas, and Tampa are the crucial games for a good start. Tampa of course because it's a division game, the other 3 because they are all likely going to be playoff competition this year. So winning head to head will put them in the Saints rearview when it comes to playoff seeds in January.

As with every regular season, while all games are important, not all games are equal. I generally track through a lens with about 4 tiers:

1. Division games. Going 6-0 in the division goes a long way to setting up for a long playoff run. It has the double whammy of putting the Saints in the playoffs and keeping the rest of the division out of the playoffs.

2. NFC games against potential playoff teams. This year that is likely the LA Rams, Seattle, Dallas, Chicago. Critical for seeding and head to head is always the 1st tiebreaker.

3. Other NFC opponents. Both common opponents (mostly shared with division rivals) and NFC standings depends on winning against NFC competition, especially against non-likely playoff teams. This year that's Arizona and San Francisco.

4. AFC teams. Only part of the common opponents for division teams and no impact on the conference standings beyond the overall standings.

From a feel standpoint division games feel worth 1.5 games while AFC games feel more like 0.75 games. So while for example a slow start on Monday Night football would be a bad look against the Texans, it has much less impact than the 4 games that follow.

Given that in an ideal world the Saints would be 5-0 heading into October. That and winning division games would set up the team in really good playoff position this season.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido 08-28-2019 10:26 AM

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I'm not expecting a slow start at all.

SaintsBro 08-28-2019 11:42 AM

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First string in the Jets game. The TD drive with Drew throwing beautiful rainbows like his Purdue days, including one crazy laser throw to Thomas in double coverage, where if it had been thrown four inches to either side, left or right, it probably would have been a pick. Then Kamara like a dervish, getting six yards a pop by just plowing into the line, blowing through, regardless of whether he had a hole to run through or not. And then the Lattimore strip and fumble recovery like two plays later, deep in Jets' territory.

It all happened really fast, it didn't last long, Payton immediately snapped the playbook shut and pulled everybody important, after the Lattimore strip. But that first part of the 1st quarter with the Saints at full strength was crazy fun to watch.... I'm not expecting a slow start at all.

blackangold 08-28-2019 12:29 PM

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Tough opening schedule but I like the team this year more than last year. I could see us going 4-0 to start, but I can also see 2-2. It’s a tough travel schedule along with very good teams. If we start 4-0 it should be another very good season in the 13-3 range.

We have more x-factor type players on the team this year, Murray is one of those guys. Teams are going to dismiss his pass catching in the first few weeks.

The Dude 08-28-2019 12:40 PM

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I don’t care as long as we win the last game in February
I do think we are going to have a slow start. We should beat Houston but we have a tough stretch there. I think we bounce back and run the table the second half of the season.

Rugby Saint II 08-28-2019 12:54 PM

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I haven't gotten to see a game yet.....but the feel is the same as when we start slow. we're banged up and still looking for players. That's not a comforting thought.

st thomas 08-28-2019 01:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 852612)
I haven't gotten to see a game yet.....but the feel is the same as when we start slow. we're banged up and still looking for players. That's not a comforting thought.



Dam rug
You can stream the games in preseason I believe, unless u work in a gold mine.

Rugby Saint II 08-28-2019 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 852619)
Dam rug
You can stream the games in preseason I believe, unless u work in a gold mine.

I don't work in a gold mine.....it's a coal mine. Just sayin'; :p

Rugby summer 7's has been in full swing and I'm usually travelling on the weekends refereeing and driving home on Sunday or Monday. Either that or I'm not getting the game on CBS at home with AT&T. I looked into streaming but Fox carries the regular season games which is what really matters.

I watched some of the game at the rugby party after the tournament Saturday night but it was hard to focus between the drinks, friends and the athletic women rugby players.

K Major 08-28-2019 02:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 852620)
I don't work in a gold mine.....it's a coal mine. Just sayin'; :p

Rugby summer 7's has been in full swing and I'm usually travelling on the weekends refereeing and driving home on Sunday or Monday. Either that or I'm not getting the game on CBS at home with AT&T. I looked into streaming but Fox carries the regular season games which is what really matters.

Reddit is also a good way to stream live NFL games ... with the use of Ad Blocker of course ;).

SaintFanInATLHELL 08-28-2019 03:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852625)
Reddit is also a good way to stream live NFL games ... with the use of Ad Blocker of course ;).

vpn. Vpn. VPn. VPN. VPN! VPN!! VPN!!!VPN!!!!

More important than the ad blocker. Got to run this on a VPN. Personally I use Private Internet Access. $40 a year to ensure anonymous access.

SFIAH

K Major 08-28-2019 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 852630)
vpn. Vpn. VPn. VPN. VPN! VPN!! VPN!!!VPN!!!!

More important than the ad blocker. Got to run this on a VPN. Personally I use Private Internet Access. $40 a year to ensure anonymous access.

SFIAH

True :bng:

I have a subscription with IPVanish.

saintfan 08-28-2019 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852636)
True :bng:

I have a subscription with IPVanish.

Just curious why you went with IPVanish, mostly since they're based in the US. Have you tried others?

cmike 08-28-2019 06:12 PM

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Good way to watch all the Pre-Season and Regular season games LIVE.
1. A VPN - I use PIA (set to the UK)
2. NFL GAMEPASS

I live close enough for an antenna to work though.

K Major 08-28-2019 06:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 852651)
Just curious why you went with IPVanish, mostly since they're based in the US. Have you tried others?

Got a referral/discount from a friend.

IMO its a solid application, not very buggy and easy to use.

It's the only one I've ever tried.

saintfan 08-28-2019 06:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852657)
Got a referral/discount from a friend.

IMO its a solid application, not very buggy and easy to use.

It's the only one I've ever tried.

Cool. I'm VPN shopping as we type so was curious. I was leaning to express vpn but I'm still digging.

saintfan 08-28-2019 06:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmike (Post 852655)
Good way to watch all the Pre-Season and Regular season games LIVE.
1. A VPN - I use PIA (set to the UK)
2. NFL GAMEPASS

I live close enough for an antenna to work though.

Workie with Netflix?

cmike 08-28-2019 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 852659)
Workie with Netflix?

Not sure, but ISP’s don’t like downloading certain content. They’ll sent you a nasty letter without a VPN. PIA has NEVER failed.

CHA_CHING 08-28-2019 09:07 PM

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In a way, yes. I have this bad feeling in my stomach and could easily see a slow start that leads to a 7-9, 8-8 or 9-7 season.

My nightmare is starting the season 1-3 and getting behind in the division early to set up a key divisional game vs Tampa that is a must win. That lone win would be squeaking it out against the Texans, followed by embarrassing road losses to the Rams and Seahawks, then a nail biter loss to Dallas.

I can see us having a tough time with the Rams because they thoroughly outplayed us in the 4th quarter of the NFCCG, I'm sorry if that offends anyone, but it was true from my re-watch of the game this summer and the stat sheet. Talk the non-call all you want, but we only had one net positive play the entire game after going up 20-10, and that just so happened to be Brees' miracle bomb to Ginn that could've been intercepted. Our offense was completely shut down by the end of that game and they looked lost in OT. The Rams worry me cause in both matches last year, they figured out how easy it is to burn the secondary with big plays. Plus Wade Phillips is still there and anyone that has watched us against his defenses knows how often we struggle with his schemes. Wade seemed to have figured us out in time of the playoffs last year. The Rams will be at home and most likely motivated to really try to embarrass us after a whole summer of talking rule changes.

I can't remember the last time we won in Seattle and Russell Wilson is the type of QB our defense struggles against. I really want to win this game though cause I still hate the Seahawks.

Dallas is a huge concern for me for two reasons - #1 they were the team that wrote the blueprint how to shut down our offense last year and #2, Dak Prescott tore us up in that game. No matter how average a QB he is, he spent the whole game picking us apart where Apple was covering Amari Cooper who was beating him all game.

We have never gone 6-0 against the division, so I don't see that happening at all. The one team that really gives us issues tends to be Tampa Bay, but also Carolina has a long track record of giving us hell. The Falcons are the team that actually worry me this year in the NFC South cause they're healthy and have a stacked offense. They're coming off a 7-9 campaign that looked eerily similar to ours from 2014-2016 with some respectable wins and a lot of could've, would've should've type losses. All 28-3 jokes aside and calling Matt Ryan a crap QB, the Falcons usually give us one very tough game, and the other one will be a blow out. They aren't going to roll over for us.

CHA_CHING 08-28-2019 09:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmike (Post 852668)
Not sure, but ISP’s don’t like downloading certain content. They’ll sent you a nasty letter without a VPN. PIA has NEVER failed.


Feel your pain there. My step daughter once got my wife and I in a lot of trouble using torrents when she stayed one month and downloaded something. Getting that phone call and a letter in the mail was not fun.

st thomas 08-29-2019 08:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 852669)
In a way, yes. I have this bad feeling in my stomach and could easily see a slow start that leads to a 7-9, 8-8 or 9-7 season.

My nightmare is starting the season 1-3 and getting behind in the division early to set up a key divisional game vs Tampa that is a must win. That lone win would be squeaking it out against the Texans, followed by embarrassing road losses to the Rams and Seahawks, then a nail biter loss to Dallas.

I can see us having a tough time with the Rams because they thoroughly outplayed us in the 4th quarter of the NFCCG, I'm sorry if that offends anyone, but it was true from my re-watch of the game this summer and the stat sheet. Talk the non-call all you want, but we only had one net positive play the entire game after going up 20-10, and that just so happened to be Brees' miracle bomb to Ginn that could've been intercepted. Our offense was completely shut down by the end of that game and they looked lost in OT. The Rams worry me cause in both matches last year, they figured out how easy it is to burn the secondary with big plays. Plus Wade Phillips is still there and anyone that has watched us against his defenses knows how often we struggle with his schemes. Wade seemed to have figured us out in time of the playoffs last year. The Rams will be at home and most likely motivated to really try to embarrass us after a whole summer of talking rule changes.

I can't remember the last time we won in Seattle and Russell Wilson is the type of QB our defense struggles against. I really want to win this game though cause I still hate the Seahawks.

Dallas is a huge concern for me for two reasons - #1 they were the team that wrote the blueprint how to shut down our offense last year and #2, Dak Prescott tore us up in that game. No matter how average a QB he is, he spent the whole game picking us apart where Apple was covering Amari Cooper who was beating him all game.

We have never gone 6-0 against the division, so I don't see that happening at all. The one team that really gives us issues tends to be Tampa Bay, but also Carolina has a long track record of giving us hell. The Falcons are the team that actually worry me this year in the NFC South cause they're healthy and have a stacked offense. They're coming off a 7-9 campaign that looked eerily similar to ours from 2014-2016 with some respectable wins and a lot of could've, would've should've type losses. All 28-3 jokes aside and calling Matt Ryan a crap QB, the Falcons usually give us one very tough game, and the other one will be a blow out. They aren't going to roll over for us.



Ur right on Matty ice cube he just plays pissed at us for some reason. What we ever did to deserve this attitude is unacceptable and should get his helmet turned sideways for acting like a rebellious teen girl.

The Dude 08-29-2019 12:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 852669)
In a way, yes. I have this bad feeling in my stomach and could easily see a slow start that leads to a 7-9, 8-8 or 9-7 season.

My nightmare is starting the season 1-3 and getting behind in the division early to set up a key divisional game vs Tampa that is a must win. That lone win would be squeaking it out against the Texans, followed by embarrassing road losses to the Rams and Seahawks, then a nail biter loss to Dallas.

I can see us having a tough time with the Rams because they thoroughly outplayed us in the 4th quarter of the NFCCG, I'm sorry if that offends anyone, but it was true from my re-watch of the game this summer and the stat sheet. Talk the non-call all you want, but we only had one net positive play the entire game after going up 20-10, and that just so happened to be Brees' miracle bomb to Ginn that could've been intercepted. Our offense was completely shut down by the end of that game and they looked lost in OT. The Rams worry me cause in both matches last year, they figured out how easy it is to burn the secondary with big plays. Plus Wade Phillips is still there and anyone that has watched us against his defenses knows how often we struggle with his schemes. Wade seemed to have figured us out in time of the playoffs last year. The Rams will be at home and most likely motivated to really try to embarrass us after a whole summer of talking rule changes.

I can't remember the last time we won in Seattle and Russell Wilson is the type of QB our defense struggles against. I really want to win this game though cause I still hate the Seahawks.

Dallas is a huge concern for me for two reasons - #1 they were the team that wrote the blueprint how to shut down our offense last year and #2, Dak Prescott tore us up in that game. No matter how average a QB he is, he spent the whole game picking us apart where Apple was covering Amari Cooper who was beating him all game.

We have never gone 6-0 against the division, so I don't see that happening at all. The one team that really gives us issues tends to be Tampa Bay, but also Carolina has a long track record of giving us hell. The Falcons are the team that actually worry me this year in the NFC South cause they're healthy and have a stacked offense. They're coming off a 7-9 campaign that looked eerily similar to ours from 2014-2016 with some respectable wins and a lot of could've, would've should've type losses. All 28-3 jokes aside and calling Matt Ryan a crap QB, the Falcons usually give us one very tough game, and the other one will be a blow out. They aren't going to roll over for us.

I can definitely see that happening if our offensive line gets banged up again. If by some miracle of baby Jesus Armstead somehow finds a way to stay healthy the majority of the season I don’t see anyone really stopping us.
The Falcons are scary but their offensive line is already very bad. They are an injury away from being a complete joke. The defense is healthy though and that’s bad for us.


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