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jnormand 08-29-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 852753)
Quick. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Murray gone.

Did Murray take a dump in your ice cube trays? Did he drag his sack across your favorite pair of sunglasses? Lol. I mean I'm not excited about him or anything, but I'm willing to give the guy a shot.

Lord_Saint83 08-29-2019 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 852759)
Did Murray take a dump in your ice cube trays? Did he drag his sack across your favorite pair of sunglasses? Lol. I mean I'm not excited about him or anything, but I'm willing to give the guy a shot.

Thats funny but yea I wasn't too hot behind it as well but he plays for us and I'm willing to give him a chance

Rugby Saint II 08-29-2019 08:44 PM

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Vilma needs to shut his mouth....either that or talk Saints football.

Rugby Saint II 08-29-2019 08:46 PM

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Uhmmmm...would one of you announcers announce what's happening now in this game?

RailBoss 08-29-2019 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 852762)
Uhmmmm...would one of you announcers announce what's happening now in this game?

LOL

RailBoss 08-29-2019 09:03 PM

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Saw a few minutes of the Skins - Ravens game, I see Rob Ryan is the Skins Inside Linebackers Coach.

Rugby Saint II 08-29-2019 09:11 PM

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They have made first downs look easy. We're not covering very well.

Rell&Gold 08-29-2019 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 852759)
Did Murray take a dump in your ice cube trays? Did he drag his sack across your favorite pair of sunglasses? Lol. I mean I'm not excited about him or anything, but I'm willing to give the guy a shot.

Keep that same energy with Teddy haters.

The Dude 08-29-2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 852768)
Keep that same energy with Teddy haters.

I know. At least TB has shown he can do it. Put him behind our starting offensive line and he’s fine. Better than anyone else’s number 2 and he has starting experience.
Same thing with Easton. When we signed him to take over for Unger everyone here was saying “there won’t be much of a drop off if any”. Now all of a sudden he sucks?
Has Murray even practiced since game 2? He will fall to the bottom of the depth chart by week 4.

blackangold 08-29-2019 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 852769)
I know. At least TB has shown he can do it. Put him behind our starting offensive line and he’s fine. Better than anyone else’s number 2 and he has starting experience.
Same thing with Easton. When we signed him to take over for Unger everyone here was saying “there won’t be much of a drop off if any”. Now all of a sudden he sucks?
Has Murray even practiced since game 2? He will fall to the bottom of the depth chart by week 4.

When and what has TB shown? Certainly hasn't shown he can be Drews replacement, and in my opinion hasn't shown that he is a starting caliber QB.

saintfan 08-29-2019 09:48 PM

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Personally I think Taysom is our next QB. Something about the guy, outside the stuff you can measure. I think Teddy is gone next year and I'm okay with that.

jnormand 08-29-2019 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 852771)
Personally I think Taysom is our next QB. Something about the guy, outside the stuff you can measure. I think Teddy is gone next year and I'm okay with that.

I have no issues with TB. But I like Taysom. The guy is electric.

The Dude 08-29-2019 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 852770)
When and what has TB shown? Certainly hasn't shown he can be Drews replacement, and in my opinion hasn't shown that he is a starting caliber QB.

I don’t think anyone said he was Drew’s replacement or at least I didn’t. When we resigned him Hill didn’t look as good as has so far in preseason and didn’t look like a Qb who could take us all the way if Drew went down. TB had starting experience and was better than anyone else out there to take the 2 spot. Hill has stepped up and taken that number 2 spot as far as I’m concerned but TB on the team this year puts us in an excellent position to still win a SB if something were to happen to Brees, even if both QBs have to play a role.
I don’t think anyone but the coaches know how he would be as a starter and we won’t until we get him behind a real offensive line.
Hopefully we don’t find out this year.
We are in great shape with our backup QBs so I don’t know why everyone is *****ing.

The Dude 08-29-2019 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 852771)
Personally I think Taysom is our next QB. Something about the guy, outside the stuff you can measure. I think Teddy is gone next year and I'm okay with that.

And each and every game he looks and plays more and more like a real QB. His accuracy gets better, he stays in the pocket more and he’s even starting to protect himself.

Rsanders24 08-29-2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 852775)
And each and every game he looks and plays more and more like a real QB. His accuracy gets better, he stays in the pocket more and he’s even starting to protect himself.

I agree but you can’t ignore that fact that he takes some hits...big ones at that. He will also be 29 next season so if it’s going to happen then it better happen next year. We will still need a great backup as I doubt he could make it 16 games with the way he plays.

Beastmode 08-29-2019 10:56 PM

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Hill tries to mimmick a lot of what Brees does. Teddy is on record saying he does not do that. He does it his way.

Bothered me when Teddy said that because he is playing under one of the greatest QB's of all time. He should be trying his hardest to do it the Brees way because his way got him cut and on another team. He also looked like crap this PS for the most part.

Rell&Gold 08-29-2019 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 852775)
And each and every game he looks and plays more and more like a real QB. His accuracy gets better, he stays in the pocket more and he’s even starting to protect himself.

He also missed a TD to Jaquizz on that last drive

Rell&Gold 08-29-2019 11:36 PM

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Taysom gets praised playing against 3rd 4th stringers Teddy gets ridiculed. Teddy is a better QB RIGHT NOW than Taysom. Don't want to use the pre season to judge the team, but damn sure will use it to judge a player.

Rell&Gold 08-29-2019 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 852782)
Hill tries to mimmick a lot of what Brees does. Teddy is on record saying he does not do that. He does it his way.

Bothered me when Teddy said that because he is playing under one of the greatest QB's of all time. He should be trying his hardest to do it the Brees way because his way got him cut and on another team. He also looked like crap this PS for the most part.

He didn't look like crap, Teddy is his own man and his own player why should he strive to be a Drew Brees clone?

jeanpierre 08-30-2019 02:37 AM

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Crusader 08-30-2019 03:48 AM

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Well that game was a ****-show. Seemed sloppy and sluggish. Some quick thoughts:

#83 Cyril Grayson won't make the team. If you are back as a returner you atleast need to field the ball so the team don't lose yards on the bounce.
He has good speed so maybe PS.


#22 CJ gardner-Johnson looked bad in coverage but it seems like he really enjoys comin' up to put the hit on a guy.


#20 Ken Crawley, its time to end this project. He seems lost a lot of the time, I could take that from a rookie with potentinal but not from a player with 4 years in the leauge.


#17 Emanuel Butler is the real deal. I can see why the coaches like him. One drop is nothing I'll get my undergarments all in a bunch about because they happen.


#15 Simmie Cobbs will be gone just because of numbers.


#84 Lil'Jordan Humphrey probably a PS candidate, good size and decent speed but looks raw. He has a stupid name, just needed to get that said.


#86 Alizé Mack needs to be snuck onto the PS. Great physical potential, maybe the best in the TE room, but clearly not NFL ready yet.


#32 Devine Ozigbo needs to make the opening day roster or he will be gone in a flash. Catches the ball, runs well and fights for the tough yards. He is the type of bruiser I love to watch at the RB position.


#37 Jacquizz Rodgers would probably clear waivers if he was cut, which i think is likely. Could be brought back later thanks to his experience.


No direct thought on individual O-line players. The O-line play didn't look to shabby as a whole.


#74 Shy Tuttle Could probably end up as a 4-5th DT on some other team but will probably not crack our roster. I would love him on the PS because he shows flashes of potential.

No real flashes from the rest of the D-line. We were sorely lacking pressure on the QB. Shows how thin the depth is at the DE position especially.


Best drive of the game was the third in the first half. TB spread the ball well and we just moved down the field.

jeanpierre 08-30-2019 03:50 AM

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jeanpierre 08-30-2019 03:54 AM

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TheOak 08-30-2019 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 852771)
Personally I think Taysom is our next QB. Something about the guy, outside the stuff you can measure. I think Teddy is gone next year and I'm okay with that.

So reminds you of Tebow?

Crusader 08-30-2019 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 852807)
So reminds you of Tebow?

Hill got an arm and ability as a passer that is leaps and bounds above what Tebow had.
What they do have in common is that they both seem to be the type of person that you gravitate to, that teammates just love. That is a powerful thing for a QB.

K Major 08-30-2019 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 852797)
#83 Cyril Grayson won't make the team. If you are back as a returner you atleast need to field the ball so the team don't lose yards on the bounce.
He has good speed so maybe PS.


This is why I don't put all stock in speed at the position. Some of the best WR's ever to play the game were superior route runners ... first.

2 kicks on the ground last night. That won't cut it at this level.

Grayson needs work.

K Major 08-30-2019 09:37 AM

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I thought Taysom threw the ball extremely well last night. With the exception of one incompletion (good coverage on 4th down), those drops hit Cobbs & Mack in the chest.

FWIW, I can respect the fact that he wasn't looking to take off and run as well. Stand tall in the pocket and sling it.

Progression.

Euphoria 08-30-2019 09:52 AM

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He can throw... I think his accuracy is improving. I would have like to see him with the 2's last night. But it is what it is... going with him as the 3rd for the season is good because he fills so many other roles for us.

vpheughan 08-30-2019 11:05 AM

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Interesting to see if Hill is used in as many different positions as last year.

TheOak 08-31-2019 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 852810)
Hill got an arm and ability as a passer that is leaps and bounds above what Tebow had.
What they do have in common is that they both seem to be the type of person that you gravitate to, that teammates just love. That is a powerful thing for a QB.

That intangible is leadership, something that can not be taught. They have a few more commonalities ( BYU QB Taysom Hill has drawn comparison to Tim Tebow - NFL.com)

As stated by someone else he needs work on accuracy and consistency and I can think of no one better to work with him than Drew. Drew always talks like after football he is going to stay in the Big Easy, that would bode very well for Hill and the Saints if they can get Hill to that replacement level of play. I am sure the days are very few and far between where Drew's hands haven't touched a football in the last 22 years and I suspect that habit will not die easy. I predict if all plays out like the above Drew will continue to mentor Hill after he is retired. Hill is also the type of guy Sean Payton might stay around a few more years for as well.

Cruize 09-01-2019 07:05 AM

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Along with the slash/3rd QB role, Hill appears to be the 3rd TE and 4th RB on the roster as well. He should have held out for more money.

vpheughan 09-01-2019 08:52 AM

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"HE" understands the meaning of "CONTRACT" and doesn't want to be a "DISTRACTION" while bringing "VETERAN PRESENTS" to the locker room!

:broccoli:

SmashMouth 09-01-2019 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 853099)
Along with the slash/3rd QB role, Hill appears to be the 3rd TE and 4th RB on the roster as well. He should have held out for more money.

Oh he will get paid next year.


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