Drew Brees hopes to “beat” six-week prognosis for return
 

The timetable Brees was given for his return is “six weeks or so.”

“But I think I can beat that,” Brees said on the radio, via Jeff Duncan of TheAthletic.com.

The option Brees chose allows him to remove the cast in a couple of weeks to begin rehab, because the internal brace supports the injured ligament.

Brees consulted with Angels outfielder Mike Trout, Thunder guard Chris Paul and others who had similar injuries and procedures. However, Brees said his situation is unique because of the position he plays.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...is-for-return/

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I would rather him take it slow. If he reinjures it then it might be over. I would rather us lose out on the season than losing him to retirement.

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I totally agree! Don't rush it for the sake of a week or so!

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Brees knows his body and the internal brace would prevent the same injury. He can basically begin throwing as soon as he can handle the initial pain from what I understand.

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I'm sure he can and will beat that 6 week timeline. I just wonder if it'll have any effects on his touch passes. He's accurate and that's one of his biggest attributes.

I guess I'm more worried about the team getting a few more wins before he comes back. Brees will get on the field when he knows he's ready.

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I don't think they should rush Brees back out there.

At his age and this specific injury, I'm worried if he'll even recover.

Kurt Warner had this same injury in his final year with the Rams and it was the main culprit of what led to him becoming a journeyman for a brief bit. It took a long time for Warner to throw the ball with authority again. Brees is much older than he was at the time.

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Call him Drew Skywalker from now onAttachment 13233.

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He knows his job is in jeopardy

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We can rebuild him. Make him stronger and faster. All this for only six million dollars.

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This is a joke, right?

:clown:

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Not sure where you got this information. Warner suffered a broken pinkie in 2002 and revealed after being benched in 2003 (final season with the Rams) that he had previously broken his hand and it didn't heal properly. Not relevant to the Brees injury at all.

As for the Brees procedure, it is a relatively new procedure that allows for much quicker recovery as an internal brace is installed which allows the hand to be used while healing. And Brees is only 40 years old, which is considered young when it comes to healing and recovery ... especially when you take care of your body as well as Brees.

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We should just deflate game balls to assist him returning sooner :P

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As for the Brees procedure, it is a relatively new procedure

Performed by Dr. Fronk N. Steen, credit Dr. Eye Gore with the assist!!

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Interesting info on the surgery that was performed on Drew Brees

Abstract

One of the most commonly injured structures of the thumb metacarpophalangeal (MCP) joint is the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL). An acute injury of this ligament is often amenable to primary repair. Despite the favorable outcomes of primary repair, the thumb is often restricted during initial healing of the ligament with immobilization and delayed rehabilitation. We present a novel technique to augment the repair of the UCL with suture tape to provide immediate biomechanical support and strength during the critical time of ligament healing. We describe the surgical technique of suture tape augmentation for thumb UCL repair.

Here's another excerpt from the abstract:

We present a representative case of a professional basketball player treated with this novel procedure. After the surgical repair, the patient was placed in a plaster splint for 3 days to immobilize the thumb and wrist. At 3 days postsurgery, the splint was removed and therapy initiated. Practice drills were initiated at 1 week postsurgery with the use of a removable hand-based thumb spica custom splint. During the entire postoperative period, the left thumb MCP joint had excellent stability to radial stress at full extension and 30 degrees of flexion. In addition, at 3 weeks postsurgery, the patient was able to oppose the thumb tip to the palmar-digital crease of the small finger and MCP joint motion was 0 to 50 degrees. The patient began strengthening exercises at this time, along with the ability to participate in all position-specific drills. At 5 weeks postsurgery, the patient was cleared to return to full play, without use of a splint.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28902098

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This is why Brees can be back at 100% in less than six weeks. This is a new, yet very proven, procedure.

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Rumor has it Drew is working out his left hand..

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Obviously we wouldn't want him to return vs the Bears on the road, eyeing the Arizona home game is intriguing. Don't be shocked if he starts that game.

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Yes, Brees is accurate and that is one of the reasons he is successful. Brees is also intelligent and has seen everything. This is why Bridgewater is semi-struggling right now cause he's having to develop and learn confidence in particular throws. He is way too hesitant and needs to take more risks. A Brees that is a little off in his accuracy is better than 90% of what is in the league for the simple reason that he knows when and where to pull the trigger. The only question for me is if there is higher risk of him re-injuring himself by coming back earlier. I don't care if he's a bit off accuracy wise.

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That makes little sense to me. First it's Arizona. Second there is a bye week following the game. Not playing in that game gets Brees an extra two weeks. So I'd be shocked if he played in the Arizona game.

At home against Atlanta on November 10th should be the target.

SFIAH

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I strongly disagree with this assessment. TB needs to be comfortable and self contained. His primary job first and foremost is not to give the ball away. Taking risky throws risks the ball being picked off.

Now that doesn't mean that TB shouldn't push the ball down the field. However, Payton should scheme for high levels of protection along with relatively open windows to throw into.

I'm going to keep saying that it's not TB's job to try to be Brees. It's not his job to even be a starting NFL QB at this point in time. It's is job to navigate this team to be in position to win games and not personally lose games.

An interception is way way worse than a sack or an incomplete pass. So Payton and TB should keep that risk in their back pocket until Brees gets back.

SFIAH

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He's going to become AMPHIBIAN!!!

Heard Mark Brunell was seen giving Drew some "SAGE ADVICE"

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Huh?

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You can't become comfortable with the throws unless you actually start to make them. He needs to expand on what he's doing now, I'm not saying he should take some crazy risks.

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How many picks would TB have to throw trying to be comfortable before we decide this is a failed experiment?

The Saints' offense doesn't need to do anything more as long as what they are doing is winning football. Arbitrarily forcing the offense into a pattern of execution outside their normal operation scope is the path towards losing.

If the defense dictates such throws, then Payton should scheme for success on those plays. Otherwise the Saints' offense should dictate tempo to the defense.

Brees has been at this for 19 seasons. It's a mistake to try to force backup QBs to emulate Brees.

SFIAH

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He is routinely passing up open receivers because they aren't open enough. It's not about emulating Brees, it's about not being afraid of failure.

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Care to point to an example?

I'm just trying to figure out the reward that's worth the risk. Did we not win the game last week?

I guess I'm just as conservative as Teddy. You're approaching this as if he had the confidence to throw to these "open" receivers, then success will follow. The caution is making those same throws and getting picked on them. Then not only have you turned the ball over, but also further damaged the confidence of the QB that you need to be successful for at least the next month.

Let the defense force the alignment. Playing conservative will bring the safeties to the LOS and put receivers and backs in 1-1 situations a bit futher down the field. Teddy will make those throws.

There's nothing yet to indicate that the plan is broken. Don't make the mistake of breaking it prematurely.

SFIAH

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Still don’t understand why people keep saying we need to keep coddling our backup pro bowl Qb who has already had a starting job. Luke McGowen came in and scorched the Panthers just like that.
I don’t want him forcing things either but at this point he should be comfortable enough in the system to where he doesn’t need to be babied.
Did well enough to win in the rain at Seattle last week. Curious as to how much his game changes against the Cowboys

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Because he isn't our historic HOF, SB MVP, QB which it sounds like to me people seem to want him to be.

We've seen Brees take thousands of throws. So Brees, the coaching staff, and the fan base have a pretty good expectation of the results of his throws. TB doesn't have that body of work, even though he has been a starting, and Pro Bowl, QB in his past. It's just not smart to put those same production expectations on TB. It isn't coddling. It's just having realistic expectations.

Face it. Drew Brees has earned the right to lose every game he plays for the Saints until he retires. TB has not. So TB has much more to lose as his career isn't yet set. Fact of the matter is that he's a Pro Bowl, playoff caliber QB precisely because he lead his teams to winning seasons by not turning over the ball and losing games. If in 2015 Minnesota had gone 5-11 and TB had thrown 14 interceptions and lost games, he wouldn't be here now.

I'll take 200 yards, no INTs, 2 TDs, at 6 YPA for each and every game TB is in the saddle as long as the Saints are winning. If it takes TB pushing the ball down the field for the Saints to win, I'll take that too. It isn't fantasy football to me. I don't care about stats. I care about wins and playoff positioning. And if Teddy playing conservatively is the path to Saints wins, then I'm all in for it.

SFIAH

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:lightsabres:If Teddy can't take some shots up the field and try to make big plays(possibly getting some play-action involved), then we shouldn't even play the game cause we can't win. Dallas has way too much lateral speed in their defense. If he played the way he did the last two weeks, with the same hesitancy.. there is a zero percent chance we win this game. I don't want him to be Brees; I want him to make throws he can make. Last week just showed that we are so very lucky to have Kamara, because without him, I'm not sure if we would have even had an offensive touchdown. Teddy has to be better, and I expect that he will be. This idea that he shouldn't take chances is ludicrous. Just because you are throwing the ball up field doesn't mean you have to throw the ball into triple coverage. A good quarterback knows where to take their shots, and even knows how to not get it picked off when they take a risk.

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Yes Sir., that is exactly the job of a backup NFL Quarter Back that finds him self under center.

There is a lot of opinion out there that Teddy should only focus on managing the clock and protect the ball, if that’s what we need, put Taysom Hill in... he runs better. We can cut Teddy in the off-season and he can be someone else’s 7.5MM space.

Teddy Bridgewater has started 1.5 games for the Saints. I’d prefer to see him a bit more before we neuter him as an excuse for his ability.

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I feel like some of you are missing my point. I want TB to do what it takes to win. I just don't feel that it's more important to open up the offense than it is to win games.

We all know that Payton and Carmichael are scheming the offense. If TB is playing the dink and dunk game, it's because that's what the offensive coaching brain trust wants him to do.

Now is not the time to try to figure out if TB is the future of the QB position for the Saints. Now is the time to win games and get the best playoff positioning we can get given the circumstances.

I will repeat, if it takes TB throwing over the top to win games, then I'm fine with it. If we can win dinking and dunking, then I'm fine with that too. What I have a problem with is the narrative that the Saints must "find out" if TB is the QB of the future by exposing him to possibly unnecessary risks. The Saints should game plan to win games using the skillsets that their current start QB offers, nothing more, nothing less.

SFIAH

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Brees has overcome obstacles before. Like with his shoulder injury. He also believes in God and knows he can do all things through Christ.

Aaron Rodgers when he tried to rush back from a collarbone injury, did not have the same sentiment. His whole process was completely different.

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Yeah there is no way we are auditioning TB for the heir apparent position. We are only trying to win games. Throw for 40 yards and win, who cares. Throw for 400 because it calls for it, yep that's gonna happen to.