New Orleans Saints QB Drew Brees Looking to Return in Week 8 Against Arizona Cardinals
 

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Don't get me wrong, I want Brees back, but for the love of God DO NOT bring him back too early and risk further damage.

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I was hoping he might make it back in time for Chicago....

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Right.

Especially while we are winning but on the flip side, the Cardinals would be a perfect time to return and "shake off the rust". The Redbirds are bad.

Bottom line is that Brees will return when Team Doctors give him the green light to do so.

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And the FailClowns aren't (bad)? Two extra weeks off and the rest of the team coming off a bye is the perfect re-entry point for Brees.

SFIAH

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This is true. Especially since Teddy is playing with more confidence.

At the end of the day, Brees comes back when he's medically cleared to do so.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to ride that Bridgewater winning streak as long as possible.

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Every week Brees isn't healthy is another week the Saints could be down to one QB in the blink of an eye.

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According to the medical experts Brees should be at 100% within six weeks post surgery. That means he is no more likely to get reinjured than any other player because he will be at 100%.

Get it?

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Being medically "cleared" and being 100% aren't always the same thing. He might be ready enough to play by week 8, but not 100%. In which case, why rush him back against a bad team, with the bye week immediately following?

Now, if he IS 100% by week 8, then there is no debate. Trying to predict exactly how healthy someone is going to be at an exact moment is not an exact science... To be exact.

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I'm not sure if you have read about this procedure, but when medically cleared he will be at 100%. THAT is the point. And that point is met within a six week period on average with this procedure. Brees has proven to heal faster and more completely than the average human given his well documented history. When he returns he WILL be at 100%. There will be no rushing. If he is where he is expected to be in week eight he will be at 100% and will be able to play with no risk beyond that of any other player.

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100% and PRO football ready are not the same.

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Encouraging...

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I think Brees is returning as the #2 WR ;).

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In this case they do. He is able to get back to FOOTBALL ready because of this particular procedure that incorporates the internal brace. He can be going FULL practice WHILE the final healing stage is becoming 100% complete.

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I'll tell you what, Guido. You find the link that explains the exact procedure he had, and the information that says he will only be cleared when he is 100%, then copy and paste it here, and then I'll believe you. I have no problem with accepting that information if you can provide it.

But since you sort of have a history of claiming to know everything about everything, I take everything you say with a healthy sized grain of salt.

In the meantime, I'm aware of a lot of players who are allowed to play before they are 100%, because doctors say they're good enough that they are not risking further injury by playing. And my point was that, IF that is the case with Drew when he is cleared, why not just let him fully heal rather than play against a crappy team. Assuming Teddy is still playing well by then.

But if he is 100%, then fine. Terrific.

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Speaking of" a healthy grains of salt and knowing everything about everything"

"I've never heard of a Raiders DB being known for his use of stickum, but I know of a Raiders WR..............."

LESTER HAYES COVERED IN STICKUM
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We want him back to win a Super Bowl , right . Let steady teddy keep us alive for one. But we don’t want to see any deer in the headlights from teddy when it really starts playoff fever. We want the 100% medically cleared no excuses see You in Miami Brees leadership to bring it home.


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What is that supposed to mean? I said I had never heard of a Raiders DB being known for stickum, and I meant it. I had never heard of Lester Hayes. Did I say "no, Lester Hayes never used stickum"? No, I did not. Do you even realize what a dumb post you just made?

Meanwhile, I HAD, in fact, heard of a Raiders WR who was well known for his use of stickum, and his name is Fred Biletnikoff.

So what, again, was your point?

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They named the stickum rule after him, the Lester Hayes Rule.

11 NFL Rules Named After People | Mental Floss

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That's cool. I was told that in that thread where the subject came up. I had never heard a name for the rule. I just knew stickum had been outlawed a long time ago, and the player I knew most for using it was Biletnikoff. Being that he was a WR, he benefited from stickum more than Lester Hayes and should have had the rule named after him, if you ask me. Instead, they named the award for best college receiver after him. Which I find incredibly stupid.

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I didn't realize Hines Ward had a rule in place.

I do remember him laying out Ed Reed once ... thought he had killed him on the field. Ward was an absolute monster at blocking.

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Geeze! Wasn't trying to cause a burst a blood vessel. Mea Culpa!

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Well, you tried to frame something I said as being something else entirely. That kind of aggravated me.

It's all good, though. Let's move on.

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I can tell you haven't been around and missed the articles that I posted earlier about the procedure. It included details of the new procedure and timeline for a professional basketball player who had the exact same procedure. Do a search on my replies and Brees/internal brace and you should find them. It explains, along with other un-posted pieces, that the procedure allows rehab of the injury during the healing process and will allow Brees to be 100% healed AND practiced to be game ready in less than six weeks post surgery.

MY point is that Brees will be fully healed ... 100% ... when he is cleared, so why not let him start against a crappy team since he is fully ready?

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I asked you to post information backing up your statement, here. But I guess that was too much to ask, so I did dig through your posts.

I found the article, and I read what it said. It's an inventive procedure. I see that it helps the recovery process. All good things. However, it gave only one example. Players do not all heal at the same rate. The article did not state that the player they mentioned returned at 100%. It just said he came back earlier. Doctors do allow you to play with pain, if they believe the structural integrity is strong enough that there is no heightened risk of further injury. Your link does not answer that question one way or the other.

Now, maybe Brees does come back by week 8 and at 100% health. I'm not saying he will or won't. I have no idea. All I said was that if he is not 100% by week 8, then why not let him sit through the bye?

You're asking me why the Saints should sit him against the Cardinals if he's fully healed, but that's not my premise, to begin with. I said if he's fully healed, then there's no debate. You can't simply assume that he'll be fully healed. Doctors give estimated recovery times, and articles can give an example of one whole player, but how fast will Drew heal? We can only wait to see. If it were such a sure thing, the Saints wouldn't be saying they are targeting a week 10 return.

I mean... Think about that, Guido. You think you know when he's going to be ready, but the Saints don't?

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True but after about the midway point of the season none of the players are really 100%. They all are playing through injury of varying severity.

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My question is, does he really have to "live" in the training room for his thumb? Thank God it wasn't his leg. :)

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Both of ya'll make valid points but Guido has posted info on this injury ad nauseum. It is a relatively new procedure but apparently it works. My only concern is reinjuring his hand. Whether it's off a helmet, hand or being knocked down. I honestly don't think Payton will let him come back too soon. Drew will want to be back ASAP. He looked like a caged tiger on the sidelines last week.

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Duh?

Where are the Saints saying thy are targeting a week 10 return ... post what else was reported?

Where is that link that is prior to links saying he could return earlier?

By the way, I admire that you actually investigated my earlier posts. There are much lazier members.

:bng:

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His hand will be fully healed and have an internal brace to prevent the same injury. But, anything can happen to any player.

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Come back when you're 100% no need to risk it.

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Week 10 is perfect. Gives Brees two weeks to practice with the team and install a game plan

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He is planning on being 100% by week eight.

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He will have been practicing for over two weeks by week eight. That is the purpose of the procedure he had done. The internal brace allows return to full practice over the final couple of weeks of the healing process.

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Yeah read it had been done in NBA and he was first to do it here. Typical Drew. If he is 100 then we go with him. I'd expect him back against Cards.

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I wouldn't be opposed to a week eight return. Brees comes back to face a cupcake defense followed with a bye week. Then it's division games

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When HE is ready HE will be back not a day before that. After the team that did the surgery signs off, the Saints staff signs off and most importantly Brees says he’s ready.

I am thankful for TB but his play yesterday’s against a good defense then add in his Dallas performance the bloom might be off a starting role for teams looking for a starting QB next year.

Blessed to have him as our backup but case can be made that without one the best defenses in the league, TB’s record souls be 1-3 at BEST.