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jeanpierre

11-28-2019 10:51 PM

What we learned, trending now and final thoughts as the Saints clinch the NFC South

K Major

11-28-2019 10:56 PM

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Dan Rizzo and the Special teams have a lot of work to do.

You simply can't allow 2 freebies to your opponent late in ball games.

In the playoffs or against better competition, it's an L.

Barry from MS

11-28-2019 10:58 PM

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Calling Taysom Hill, hands team. Taysom Hill, please report to hands team.

ChrisXVI

11-28-2019 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 869838)

Dan Rizzo and the Special teams have a lot of work to do.

You simply can't allow 2 freebies to your opponent late in ball games.

In the playoffs or against better competition, it's an L.

Alvin Kamara making business decisions.

neugey

11-28-2019 11:05 PM

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Koo probably just saved his own job with those onside kicks. Pretty incredible.

Wasn't a pretty game but sure was a fun one to watch, especially Tuttle's big play.

RefsRobbedUs

11-28-2019 11:07 PM

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He has had some solid games but do we re sign Apple? This guy is a DPI machine and still can’t turn his head around and locate the ball.

I think ultimately someone will pay him more than what we offer.

jeanpierre

11-28-2019 11:07 PM

Re: What we learned, trending now and final thoughts as the Saints clinch the NFC South

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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 869840)

Calling Taysom Hill, hands team. Taysom Hill, please report to hands team.

Barry, the ATL went away from him, they saw enough of Taysom that they knew they didn't want no more...

jeanpierre

11-28-2019 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 869846)

Market will set his price, and then we got to see if it's in the budget to squeeze him in at a No. 2 CB slot...

If WR/TE wasn't such a priority, I'd really look at CB with the first round pick...

RefsRobbedUs

11-28-2019 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 869849)

Market will set his price, and then we got to see if it's in the budget to squeeze him in at a No. 2 CB slot...

If WR/TE wasn't such a priority, I'd really look at CB with the first round pick...

Yeah WR is our biggest need. Ginn and Quan are not the answers. Hopefully we can get Apples replacement in free agency if his price is too high.

K Major

11-28-2019 11:13 PM

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Bring back Stickem and hand a can or two over to Cook and Ginn.

These dudes can't catch at all.

I haven't seen Brees this frustrated in a while.

jnormand

11-28-2019 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 869841)

Alvin Kamara making business decisions.

Reminiscent of Cam Newton on that fumble in the SB. I saw him jump back a bit and it made me a little sick and a little embarrassed.

bobdog86

11-28-2019 11:44 PM

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Happy to clinch, unhappy with so much.....defense continues make costly mistakes at the wrong time, penalties, big plays. Offense needs another wr option, glad we are doing well, just doesn’t seem as complete a team as years past to me......I guess this is our year !

SmashMouth

11-28-2019 11:59 PM

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Audiotom

11-29-2019 12:59 AM

Re: What we learned, trending now and final thoughts as the Saints clinch the NFC South

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 869849)

Market will set his price, and then we got to see if it's in the budget to squeeze him in at a No. 2 CB slot...

If WR/TE wasn't such a priority, I'd really look at CB with the first round pick...

Wide receiver first if top candidate available late first round

RockyMountainSaint

11-29-2019 01:49 AM

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vpheughan

11-29-2019 06:27 AM

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Every Silver Lining has a DARK CLOUD!!!!

The horIzion darkens!!!!

It's not "How could you miss on 2 onside kicks?" IT'S "HOW CAN YOU GET ONLY 3 POINTS FROM 2 RECOVERED ONSIDE KICKS?"

SPEW YOUR YOLKS EGGSPURTS!!!!!

ALL YOUR COULDA, WOULDA, SHOULDA'S AND "WHO THEY SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED........WALLOW IN YOUR MIRE :rofl: :rofl:"

WILL NOT CHANGE WHAT IS!!!!

THE SAINTS ARE THE NFC SOUTH CHAMPIONS FOR THE 3RD CONSECUTIVE YEAR!!!

OldMaid

11-29-2019 07:56 AM

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Ok. Today in this section, we can talk about the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Saints and penalties. Yeah every team gets these , but Saints and penalties seem go hand and hand.
I don’t know why.

Tuttle’s blatant , on purpose penalty was a good penalty, lol. That was different. The big lineman there was running with speed, moving that body like running back. Too funny. He gave his part, a 99% game changer.

Hill- a 3rd string qb . Who plays a 3rd string qb all the time like that?
Saints do BECAUSE HE IS A 1st string jack of all trades out there.
What has he not tried? Hmmm, place kicking. Why not!

Lutz came through with his fg. Ok. He is supposed to do that, yes, but 7 pts are more than 3 pts.
I get sometimes you have to take fg.

Which brings me to the Saints needing to start putting the game away by halftime. Ok, then by end of 3 rd qrtr. Yes Saints are NFC Division Champions. They sealed that .
Still, AtlFal was only about 10 points down in 4 th qrtr. I forgot the time, how many minutes were left.
Anything can happen if you have the time. This last stretch of the season has the contenders on one side and just the other teams separated on the other side now.
Playoff picture is like 1/3 set now.
Saints need to start putting the game out of reach .

Beastmode

11-29-2019 10:16 AM

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Got the job done but drops were excessive. Every Taysom smile generates thousands of tears for Fantasy owners of Kamara including me. It's just wrong. I use to think Mormons were nice people. Not anymore.

brees84

11-29-2019 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 869863)

Wide receiver first if top candidate available late first round

Deep draft at WR position. People say this class could go down as one of the best (if not the best) in recent memory. Just don't trade up. Probably there is another Michael Thomas in round 2...

brees84

11-29-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 869897)

Tuttle’s blatant , on purpose penalty was a good penalty, lol. That was different. The big lineman there was running with speed, moving that body like running back. Too funny. He gave his part, a 99% game changer.

Penalty was on Jordan. Weak call but stupid move from Jordan.

K Major

11-29-2019 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 869925)

Deep draft at WR position. People say this class could go down as one of the best (if not the best) in recent memory. Just don't trade up. Probably there is another Michael Thomas in round 2...

WR in the 2020 draft.

Absolutely.

Just a couple of guys I've kept up with in college :

Justin Jefferson - LSU ... plays in a Pro style offense. Understands concepts & he makes plays & moves the chains.
Jalon Reagor - TCU (I saw him live this year. BURNER, BURNER, BURNER).
KJ Hill - OSU .. good hands, solid route runner and went to "Thee" Ohio State. Sounds like that guy we have now that they call "Can't Guard Mike".

Ginn is gone in 2020 and I'm simply not a believer in Tre'quan Smith.

saintfan

11-29-2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 869927)

Ginn is gone in 2020 and I'm simply not a believer in Tre'quan Smith.

jeanpierre

11-29-2019 11:45 AM

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Unless there's an elite TE, this draft is so deep at WR, spend that first on either a CB or a LG/RT; spend our 3rd pick, next year's 2nd pick for another early 3rd pick and take two WRs where the crop is deep...

But I'm not taking anything less than two WRs in the draft; should we take a CB in the first, I'd make sure I have signed a PROVEN WR for that WR opposite Mike Thomas - get a PROVEN NFL Commodity...

And whoever scouted/recommended or gave a referrals on Smith and Ginn, take them off the Holiday Ham List...

saintfan

11-29-2019 11:54 AM

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K Major

11-29-2019 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 869934)

[B]Unless there's an elite TE, this draft is so deep at WR, spend that first on either a CB or a LG/RT; spend our 3rd pick, next year's 2nd pick for another early 3rd pick and take two WRs where the crop is deep...

Yep.

I believe the motto will remain the same as it relates to the 2020 draft.

Best Player Available. If it's another big nasty (see Ramz), so be it. Games continue to be won & lost in those trenches.

Barry from MS

11-29-2019 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 869934)

The Mizzou & Vandy TEs are about the best in this class...both should be available when we pick. I'm not completely sold on either of them, though. If they fall I wouldn't mind either one at the end of the 2nd.

To me, a big ugly olineman should be our focus for that 1st pick. Ram & McCoy are the future but I'd be comfortable with 1 more young talented guy up front.

Barry from MS

11-29-2019 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 869927)

WR in the 2020 draft.

Absolutely.

Jalon Reagor - TCU (I saw him live this year. BURNER, BURNER, BURNER).

Bad, bad man. On the small size, though, which should have him available after the 1st unless his 40 time is stupid ridiculous...which is a possibility. Think he's projected at 4.35.

jeanpierre

11-29-2019 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 869927)

WR in the 2020 draft.

Absolutely.

Just a couple of guys I've kept up with in college :

Justin Jefferson - LSU ... plays in a Pro style offense. Understands concepts & he makes plays & moves the chains.
Jalon Reagor - TCU (I saw him live this year. BURNER, BURNER, BURNER).
KJ Hill - OSU .. good hands, solid route runner and went to "Thee" Ohio State. Sounds like that guy we have now that they call "Can't Guard Mike".

Ginn is gone in 2020 and I'm simply not a believer in Tre'quan Smith.

If you think Mecole Hardeman has some jets, this guy is gone in 1/2 second; this guy will have Sean Payton using the word suddenness in every press conference through training camp...

May be the closest to Brandin Cooks we've seen in a while; if Reagor falls to the second, wouldn't object to moving back for him in Round 2 and picking up a another Day 2 pick and then going LG/RT or CB2...

Audiotom

12-01-2019 07:47 AM

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No trading up
No trading down
Best WR

vpheughan

12-01-2019 10:02 AM

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Which QB(S) get resigned?

jeanpierre

12-01-2019 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 869943)

Yep.

I believe the motto will remain the same as it relates to the 2020 draft.

Best Player Available. If it's another big nasty (see Ramz), so be it. Games continue to be won & lost in those trenches.

Despite the stellar play of rookie Erik McCoy admirably stepping into Max Unger's spot, we've not been this vulnerable in some time...

We've seen a dramatic decline in Peat who'd played injured and often shifted to LT for the fragile Terron Armstead; but coming into training camp out-of-shape, whether late season injury or naught, was terrible...

Irregardless of some of his 2017 accolades, Warford has been just okay at Right Guard, and we'd done better spending slightly more for Kevin Zeitler, or saving that money and getting as effective right guard for less...

Armstead is injured, again, likely out till the playoffs if we follow his trend since getting paid the Big Mo contract...

Not sure Brees' plans when we win the SuperBowl this year, but I'd strongly consider blowing this offensive line up, getting another first round stud for the offensive line, and reshaping it younger, stronger, better...

But whether free agency or draft, and I'd prefer at least a shot each way, we need a receiving threat, whether TE or a speedster WO opposite Michael Thomas to make it easier to open up the offense...

We're just losing to many third down conversions and red zone opportunities...

Rugby Saint II

12-01-2019 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 870116)

I agree with drafting the big uglies in the first round.....maybe early second round. We need another monster on the O-line to give us that edge we used to have in the trenches. Peat is likely gone after this season. I'm down with two new guards. Warford has never excited me so I wouldn't mind bringing in a new RG. However, if Drew is under center I don't want to mess with the continuity along the line.

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