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voodooido 12-08-2019 01:05 PM

Just hear me out.......
 
Murray appears to be the complete back the saints have been needing. Why not trade AK at the end of the season for a ton of picks. AK has an amazing skill set but has been shut down for most of the year. I’m almost certain we could get at the least a rd1 and 2 for him. Now, before y’all call me stupid I want you to understand I love AK, I just love my saints more.

44Champs 12-08-2019 01:31 PM

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#1 Murray is 29 yo

#2 AK is a game changer - what do you hope to get to replace a player like him?



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voodooido 12-08-2019 01:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 871117)
#1 Murray is 29 yo

#2 AK is a game changer - what do you hope to get to replace a player like him?



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Multiple high pics. Murray has 3-5 more good years and we would have to pay AK a ton in just 2 years. No doubt AK is a great player but he will demand that money. Why not give Brees a few more weapons and draft his replacement with the picks?

voodooido 12-08-2019 02:00 PM

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And let’s be honest, Murray has outplayed AK this year.

44Champs 12-08-2019 02:04 PM

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Kamara's been hurt. What do you expect? You make it sound like Murray's our future and that he's better than Kamara.

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ChrisXVI 12-08-2019 02:23 PM

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I don’t think of it as Murray being the future... but Kamara’s been very disappointing. He’s eligible for a contract extension after this season and if he’s looking to be the highest paid RB, I’d trade him.

TheOak 12-08-2019 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 871149)
Multiple high pics. Murray has 3-5 more good years and we would have to pay AK a ton in just 2 years. No doubt AK is a great player but he will demand that money. Why not give Brees a few more weapons and draft his replacement with the picks?

NO RB gets multiple high picks in this day and age. None...

saintfan 12-08-2019 03:47 PM

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It doesn't matter what you do when the league is directing that you lose.

neugey 12-08-2019 03:52 PM

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If Kamara doesn't step it up, then just let him walk as a FA and get the compensatory pick(s). I don't see a crisis.

WillMacKenzie 12-08-2019 03:52 PM

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Sean refuses to run him anyway. Could’ve milked a lot more of that clock but the fever took over

WhoDat!656 12-08-2019 03:58 PM

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Every player has a few off games, especially coming back from an injury.

The Dude 12-08-2019 04:30 PM

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We scored over 30 on the best defense in the league. Our offense isn’t to blame. It took them pulling off two trick plays to win. That doesn’t happen again. We can beat these guys when it counts.


As far as Kamara goes he was looking great until his injury. I think he’s still hurt.

cmike 12-08-2019 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 871416)
We scored over 30 on the best defense in the league. Our offense isn’t to blame. It took them pulling off two trick plays to win. That doesn’t happen again. We can beat these guys when it counts.


As far as Kamara goes he was looking great until his injury. I think he’s still hurt.

Yep, even the announcers mentioned it. SF pulled every trick out of the hat. That’s what it took to win today. Still the defense has my stomach upset. They looked lost in the first half.
I’m just glad we got this loss out of the way and not come playoff time.

Audiotom 12-08-2019 04:49 PM

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AK is being schemed by every good defense.

The outside in the flat dropoffs were going nowhere today
And only Murray was making it up the middle

Ak had that one burst / hurdle play
He is wearing down when he has to pound through linemen

Keep him fresh then push AK more when the d’s are gassed in the second half

Payton isn’t realizing that

ChrisXVI 12-08-2019 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 871427)
AK is being schemed by every good defense.

The outside in the flat dropoffs were going nowhere today
And only Murray was making it up the middle

Ak had that one burst / hurdle play
He is wearing down when he has to pound through linemen

Keep him fresh then push AK more when the d’s are gassed in the second half

Payton isn’t realizing that

This is a good point. I hate that it took until this late in the season to become obvious that Kamara isn’t an every down RB because it’s too late to bring in somebody else to help. I hated going into the season with only three RB’s for this very reason.

The Dude 12-08-2019 05:06 PM

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And why didn’t we just use Taysom as TE when Cook went down. He is more than capable and we have Teddy so it’s not like there is a risk there as far as losing your backup QBs.

saintfan 12-08-2019 06:31 PM

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Understand. It doesn't matter what play we call. It doesn't matter who's number is called. The refs are going to control the game. Period. That's what happened today and it will continue to happen. We have to play the other team AND we have to play the refs. We were the victim of PI repeatedly today. No calls. Roger has ruined the NFL.

K Major 12-08-2019 07:01 PM

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Different angle and football 101. Running the rock to open up the pass.

Sean P and Pete Carmichael questionable play calling ..

Kamara 13 carries for 25 yards
Murray... 7 carries for 69 yards

Lack of using a bull RB 2nd half who was absolutely gashing a #1 ranked defense is mind boggling. Are you really gonna outrun the Niners to the edge? The middle of their D was suspect yet we don't capitalize by exploiting a weakness.

Frustrating for sure.

Audiotom 12-08-2019 07:02 PM

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This game had a lot less bad calls
Not enough to stop them winning like other games
No d line pressure
Secondary suckage

gulfgambler 12-08-2019 07:08 PM

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1st round bye slippin away because we can't play defense w/o making penalties.

neugey 12-08-2019 07:11 PM

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You know what was ironic. As the second half progressed and the 49ers started getting more aggressive I was begging at the TV for a screen, and not sure that we ever called one. We ruined the screen game by calling them at silly times in the first half and losing major yardage.

WhoDat!656 12-08-2019 07:17 PM

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Time for the Saints to start winning road playoff games.

Rugby Saint II 12-09-2019 11:52 AM

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You might be glad we have AK before the season is over. He has been and probably still is injured. Payton uses him like a battering ram....of course he was going to get hurt.


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