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SmashMouth 12-14-2019 02:03 PM

Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
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Bring up Alvin Kamara’s name around the New Orleans Saints training facility, and a mantra starts to become clear.

Quarterback Drew Brees said, “I think his time is coming.”

Left tackle Terron Armstead said, “One of those games where he just explodes and goes crazy, it’s coming soon.”

Head coach Sean Payton said, “His best football this season’s ahead of him.”

When this trend was pointed out to Kamara himself he responded in kind, “Oh yeah, it’ll come. It’ll come.”

All of these responses, in some way, are answers to the question Where has Alvin Kamara been?

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It’s not like he just disappeared. In five games since returning from ankle and knee injuries that cost him two games, he’s averaging 85 scrimmage yards per game. He had four straight games averaging better than 4.9 yards per carry before coming back to Earth last week against a San Francisco defense that held him to 25 yards on 13 carries. He’s averaging 97.6 scrimmage yards per game, which isn’t too far off the pace he set last year (106.1) or in his Rookie of the Year campaign (97.1).

Maybe it’s not a matter of raw numbers, but rather one of panache. The big plays that vaulted Kamara toward superstardom — the broken tackles, the 40-yard zig-zags through flailing defenses, especially the touchdowns — have been fewer and more far between this season.

Fairly or unfairly, the question lingers in reporter’s notebooks and on Saints’ fans fingertips.

Oh, Kamara has seen the conspiracy theories online that he’s simply not happy anymore now that his good friend Mark Ingram is playing for the Baltimore Ravens. He quickly dispelled that idea when he spoke in front of his locker Friday.

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Halo 12-14-2019 02:28 PM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
I think they're telling us he's finally healthy from his injury.
Can't wait for the Ginsu to start slicing and dicing his way through teams and appear like he's moving through alternate dimensions.


44Champs 12-14-2019 03:03 PM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
He's been playing hurt and lots of members here are trashing him and saying to trade him etc. Probably people that have never twisted an ankle or played a down of football. Cant believe the ignorance on this board sometimes.

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Thirty3 12-14-2019 03:23 PM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
Kamara is the real deal. Thrilled that he’s a Saint!

cmike 12-14-2019 05:07 PM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 872022)
He's been playing hurt and lots of members here are trashing him and saying to trade him etc. Probably people that have never twisted an ankle or played a down of football. Cant believe the ignorance on this board sometimes.

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Kinda like when people were starting to label Davenport as a bust. But really could not see how much he contributed. When his injury news came out, the same people started throwing in the towel. Make up your minds.
SMH

K Major 12-14-2019 05:39 PM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
Watch Kamara go nuts once the playoffs start.

He's special.

The Dude 12-14-2019 08:09 PM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
I can’t believe this is even a question. people are so shell shocked from the last two years that the fact we are 10-3 and the first team to clinch a playoff birth has totally escaped them. We have overcome losing our HOF qb for 5 games, ****ty officiating and one of the toughest schedules in the league.
The Saints will be fine.

neugey 12-14-2019 09:40 PM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
Hopefully he can get back to his old self. He put the team on his back vs the Seahawks.

blackangold 12-15-2019 01:05 AM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
RBs are a dime a dozen... Kamara is no different.

If he was doing just fine people wouldn't be righting articles like this.

Audiotom 12-15-2019 09:49 AM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
Really bad coaching
You have Murray just pounding through a staunch d- line
Then see Kamara get stonewalled at the same point of attack

His injury is part of that
He isn’t cutting as sharply as before

Go with Murray and let AK take the screens in space etc.
THe gadget plays to Taysom Hill completely break the flow of things.

spkb25 12-15-2019 10:18 AM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
Yeah well decoy him and make other teams pay. It is clear that other teams are saying for the saints offense we are going to take AK out of the game. You can watch the whole defense flow immediately to whatever side he goes to...

spkb25 12-15-2019 10:23 AM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 872028)
Kinda like when people were starting to label Davenport as a bust. But really could not see how much he contributed. When his injury news came out, the same people started throwing in the towel. Make up your minds.
SMH

I didnt see anyone on here call him a bust. Please provide the link to the comment(s). I think some people said he was producing at a high level early on and his production severely dipped. If you want to look at his stats per game let's do it. I bet you will see high production followed by a complete lull which resulted in a limited 1/3 of defensive plays. Guess what...next two games he turned it up, but sure it was the gameplan not a message to get your ass back in gear....sureeeee

Now he is unfortunately injured...again. we paod two first round picks for him I expect a pro bowler for that cost. He has definitely showed some real potential..just hasn't stayed healthy. Guess who is in their last year with us? Rankins. He isnt getting resigned.

jeanpierre 12-15-2019 11:05 AM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 872021)
I think they're telling us he's finally healthy from his injury.
Can't wait for the Ginsu to start slicing and dicing his way through teams and appear like he's moving through alternate dimensions.

https://youtu.be/abLB7aTmnE4

Problem Halo is not the Ginsu, but the Chef...

To run with your analogy, you've got to pound that steak, tenderize it, before you start cutting it up...

All we're doing right now is wearing out the Ginsu blade...

TheOak 12-15-2019 12:02 PM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
My take...

The ultimate goal each season is the Super Bowl, the road to that glory changes a good bit as the team crosses certain milestones. Some teams have one game style and utilization of their players... That's why the Falcons **** the bed often. They are very good some seasons but their coaching just cant get them there. We were not the best on paper in 2009 but we were unpredictable.

Personally.. I do not have any issue with how Kamara or Murry are being utilized.

1. I am not interested in running Murry until he is injured because whats behind him? We are not the team of past thats 3-4 deep at RB. We NEED him in the playoffs.

2. Kamara doesn't have to be 100% or utilized as he was in the past. Just being on the field means Defenses have to account for him and that creats mismatches.

3. Murry doesnt look like a top RB in the league because he is... he looks that way at times because teams are having to account for Kamara and Thomas leaving Murry to make trouble where the miss matches are.

4. Our offensive line is gimpy, pounding the rock every play isnt going to get them healthier or help with attrition for the rest of the season. Pass blocking takes less of a toll on offensive linemen.

5. Believe it or not, I am okay with there being very little 2019 tape on how Sean Payton uses every offensive weapon to its max value...

The most shocking comments that I read are the ones that assume Sean Payton doesn't know how to use RBs...


Oh and about low percentage plays... Those also happen to be the plays the defense are least expecting.. Just maybe there is value in that?

Rugby Saint II 12-15-2019 02:08 PM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
Kamara was run through the grinder because for whatever reason Payton will not give Murray the ball consistently no matter what. Payton force feeds Kamara the ball between the tackles and I believe that the wear and tear on him is showing. Yes, he's been less than 100% for some time. He's tried valiantly to come back from injury but you can see his legs give out at the tackle. Murray needs to get the ball more and Kamara needs to spend more time in motion before the snap. Defenses key in on him and the screens aren't working because he can't shake the defender like he used to because of his physical limitations. We don't know what the injuries are but it's obvious that they are cutting down on his effectiveness.

ChrisXVI 12-15-2019 03:04 PM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
The thing about Kamara being used to create mismatches is that when Michael Thomas is the only other weapon there are no mismatches to be created.

OldMaid 12-16-2019 10:48 PM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
I believe in him. I would to see him finish strong. Get back in there. Get his grove game .
Injury is injury.
He is back. He got out there tonight.
More to come , I hope.

K Major 12-17-2019 07:51 AM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
I touched on it in the game day chat ...

AK's footwork is back. He was shifty and had that "burst" we are all familiar with. He looked good last night.

Halo 12-17-2019 08:05 AM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 872645)
I touched on it in the game day chat ...

AK's footwork is back. He was shifty and had that "burst" we are all familiar with. He looked good last night.

He started breaking out later in the 3rd and 4th quarter.
Everybody tries to smother the guy.
When they do that, we should put Washington in and use Kamara as a decoy, and pound Washington up the middle. He's a bulldozer.

voodooido 12-17-2019 08:27 AM

Re: Saints have not lost an ounce of belief in Alvin Kamara: 'His time is coming'
 
I think AK is a beast but he has been Reggie Bush 2.0 this year. Murray has been by far our best back. Murray has hardly been used in his career and is only 29. Trading AK in the off season might be the best for everyone. At the least look at what you could get in return. I just can’t see him being worth what he will demand. I would love to see AK become what he was his rookie year but I don’t see it happening.


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