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Rugby Saint II 12-23-2019 12:32 PM

Yeah, Kamara and Drew Are Washed Up
 
All I hear is that Kamara is trash and Drew should just retire now and not even finish the season. Still think that's true after last nights game? :dunce:

K Major 12-23-2019 12:51 PM

Re: Yeah, Kamara and Drew Are Washed Up
 
I heard Garic on the Point after show mention that Brees has thrown 12 TD's/0 INTs over the last 12 quarters.

Crazy stat but he's not done yet.

dam1953 12-23-2019 02:32 PM

Re: Yeah, Kamara and Drew Are Washed Up
 
If Kamara's problem was a nagging injury and he's now getting healthy, the timing couldn't be better...

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-orlean...ts-playoff-run

Like the article says. "This offense could be awfully dangerous with quarterback Drew Brees, receiver Michael Thomas, tight end Jared Cook and Kamara all in peak form at the same time." Just replace "could" with "will."

Rugby Saint II 12-23-2019 02:34 PM

Re: Yeah, Kamara and Drew Are Washed Up
 
He still struggles to break tackles but he's great in open space to make defenders miss. I think he's getting better but the leg drive isn't there yet.

ChrisXVI 12-23-2019 02:41 PM

Re: Yeah, Kamara and Drew Are Washed Up
 
Kamara has been terrible for weeks. Looks like he’s turned it around though after that long TD run.

cmike 12-23-2019 02:55 PM

Re: Yeah, Kamara and Drew Are Washed Up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 873694)
Kamara has been terrible for weeks. Looks like he’s turned it around though after that long TD run.

I think it has been more of our screen game has been terrible. Seems to me defenders are sniffing out our screens at the snap. AK gets the ball and is trying to elude tackles right away. I’ve only seen J. Hill be successful catches screens in the last few weeks. I don’t think teams are game planning for Hill. We’ve gotta get more creative getting AK the ball.

K Major 12-23-2019 03:00 PM

Re: Yeah, Kamara and Drew Are Washed Up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 873694)
Kamara has been terrible for weeks. Looks like he’s turned it around though after that long TD run.

I'm looking at Kamara's stats and body of work for the entire season ... down games in ATL & Seattle but I'm having a hard time seeing terrible.

BTW, his ypc avg is currently 4.7.

For comparison, Christian McCaffrey is at 4.9 on the year.

dam1953 12-23-2019 03:10 PM

Re: Yeah, Kamara and Drew Are Washed Up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmike (Post 873695)
I think it has been more of our screen game has been terrible. Seems to me defenders are sniffing out our screens at the snap. AK gets the ball and is trying to elude tackles right away. I’ve only seen J. Hill be successful catches screens in the last few weeks. I don’t think teams are game planning for Hill. We’ve gotta get more creative getting AK the ball.

Agree, watching a few games yesterday, it was obvious that something is wrong with our screen passing game. Kamara was getting hit before he could get back to the line of scrimmage. A number of times our blocking was bad, or nowhere to be seen. So, basically we are running naked screens with Kamara.

The Dude 12-23-2019 05:44 PM

Re: Yeah, Kamara and Drew Are Washed Up
 
I don’t remember anyone saying Kamara is trash. He’s had a “bad” stretch since the Seattle game but “bad” still had him on pace for over 1k yards from scrimmage.
He’s been hurt and holding back. He will show up in the playoffs.

I sure hope our opponents think he’s trash. Let them build their entire game plan around stopping Thomas, they will find out quick whose still got what.

burningmetal 12-23-2019 05:57 PM

Re: Yeah, Kamara and Drew Are Washed Up
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 873692)
He still struggles to break tackles but he's great in open space to make defenders miss. I think he's getting better but the leg drive isn't there yet.

I know Kamara had an injury, but I don't get the sense it was ever as serious as people are convinced it was. He wasn't playing well before the injury. The injury, itself, only made it worse. But he lacked decisiveness and looked frankly disinterested, at times, for a few weeks before he got hurt.

I could make some guesses as to what was behind that, but there's no point in that. All I know is he came out yesterday looking like the same Kamara we've seen for weeks, and had that play where he just gave up and went out of bounds. And, as I said in an earlier post, you could see Drew was not pleased, and I think there was probably a "spirited" conversation on the sidelines, afterwards, because it was after that point that a light just seemed to come on and he looked like his old self again.

To me, that is a sign that there was more than just an injury holding him back. There was a lack of focus/fire, for whatever reason, and he just needed something to get him back in gear. I realize this is just speculation on my part, but I think basic understanding of human nature and seeing how that switch suddenly flipped makes it a plausible theory.


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