Textbook PI

RaginCajun83 · 01-05-2020, 07:41 PM

This sucks getting screwed by the refs again in back to back years

Vrillon82 · 01-05-2020, 07:43 PM

Yeah, I firmly believe they want KC in it. 100 years of NFL and rematch of first 2 SBs. Like when GB and Pitt went at it for the 50th SB.

RaginCajun83 · 01-05-2020, 07:45 PM

SB 2 Packers vs Raiders

SB 50 Broncos and Panthers

Rell&Gold · 01-05-2020, 08:00 PM

I put it more on the Oline than Brees honestly LT to RT played horrible. He made some mistakes but that fumble happened due to Ryan All pro RT getting beat like a drum inside yeah he needs to protect the ball but Ryan HAS TO DO BETTER

Rell&Gold · 01-05-2020, 08:01 PM

That was OPI and but that also wasn't a TD by Cook

Rugby Saint II · 01-06-2020, 12:33 PM

We screwed up by letting the refs decide the game. If we have a big lead the refs have a hard time stopping us.

saintfan · 01-08-2020, 02:09 PM

Here's another one from the same game on the deep pass by Drew. Any questions?

hitta · 01-08-2020, 02:45 PM

I don't care that it wasn't called. I care that it wasn't reviewed. If it would have went to review and they upheld the call I'd been content (albeit sad). It makes no sense me that you go through all of that process in the off-season to put a rule in place to make sure the correct call on those types of plays are made and then you decline to even make use of the tool that was provided to the refs to get the call right. Any other team then us I guarantee you they at least take a look at it there.

Lord_Saint83 · 01-08-2020, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Here's another one from the same game on the deep pass by Drew. Any questions?

I understand where you are coming from. But if we had made 7pts instead of 3 on that turnover or ran the ball more to take the pressure off of drew. And if with the cleanest pocket he had all game on that pick threw a safer pass, minny doesn't go down and score. Granted it wasn't a td but that play never happens if drew doesn't throw the pick. Just by doing these three things we beat them in regulation by atleast 10 maybe 14

saintfan · 01-08-2020, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

I understand where you are coming from. But if we had made 7pts instead of 3 on that turnover or ran the ball more to take the pressure off of drew. And if with the cleanest pocket he had all game on that pick threw a safer pass, minny doesn't go down and score. Granted it wasn't a td but that play never happens if drew doesn't throw the pick. Just by doing these three things we beat them in regulation by atleast 10 maybe 14

And even by not doing all those thing - by not playing a perfect game, we may still have won if not for blatant missed calls. This is my point. Given our recent experience and that of other teams (see Seattle getting completely robbed when SF committed blatant PI in the end zone on the last play of the season as an example) it is clear that the refs are doing what is required. These aren't one-offs anymore, and the refs don't suck. As I've stated elsewhere, the refs throw flags for minimal (if at all) offenses from half way across the field and then we are expected to believe they "miss" the obvious ones in front of their faces?

As fans we don't want to believe it. We love football and professional football in particular. I understand. It's a hard pill to swallow. I've been saying the NBA has been rigged for 30 years, and it is. There is more and more (and more) evidence which suggests the NFL is too.

The kicker to my thinking is the fact that the league has the resources to correct the problem, assuming they'd want it corrected, and it appears they do not since they refuse to leverage those resources.

The "sport" of football ends in college. The NFL is pure entertainment, and the league, at a minimum at best, is influencing the results.

01-05-2020, 07:41 PM	#11
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Textbook PI This sucks getting screwed by the refs again in back to back years Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-05-2020, 07:43 PM	#12
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Textbook PI Yeah, I firmly believe they want KC in it. 100 years of NFL and rematch of first 2 SBs. Like when GB and Pitt went at it for the 50th SB.
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01-05-2020, 07:45 PM	#13
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Textbook PI SB 2 Packers vs Raiders SB 50 Broncos and Panthers

01-05-2020, 08:00 PM	#14
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Textbook PI I put it more on the Oline than Brees honestly LT to RT played horrible. He made some mistakes but that fumble happened due to Ryan All pro RT getting beat like a drum inside yeah he needs to protect the ball but Ryan HAS TO DO BETTER

01-05-2020, 08:01 PM	#15
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Textbook PI That was OPI and but that also wasn't a TD by Cook K Major and Audiotom like this.

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01-06-2020, 12:33 PM	#16
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Textbook PI We screwed up by letting the refs decide the game. If we have a big lead the refs have a hard time stopping us.

01-08-2020, 02:09 PM	#17
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Textbook PI Here's another one from the same game on the deep pass by Drew. Any questions?

01-08-2020, 02:45 PM	#18
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Textbook PI I don't care that it wasn't called. I care that it wasn't reviewed. If it would have went to review and they upheld the call I'd been content (albeit sad). It makes no sense me that you go through all of that process in the off-season to put a rule in place to make sure the correct call on those types of plays are made and then you decline to even make use of the tool that was provided to the refs to get the call right. Any other team then us I guarantee you they at least take a look at it there. Rsanders24 likes this.
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01-08-2020, 05:37 PM	#19
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Textbook PI Originally Posted by saintfan Here's another one from the same game on the deep pass by Drew. Any questions? I understand where you are coming from. But if we had made 7pts instead of 3 on that turnover or ran the ball more to take the pressure off of drew. And if with the cleanest pocket he had all game on that pick threw a safer pass, minny doesn't go down and score. Granted it wasn't a td but that play never happens if drew doesn't throw the pick. Just by doing these three things we beat them in regulation by atleast 10 maybe 14 dizzle88 likes this.

01-08-2020, 05:57 PM	#20
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Textbook PI Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 I understand where you are coming from. But if we had made 7pts instead of 3 on that turnover or ran the ball more to take the pressure off of drew. And if with the cleanest pocket he had all game on that pick threw a safer pass, minny doesn't go down and score. Granted it wasn't a td but that play never happens if drew doesn't throw the pick. Just by doing these three things we beat them in regulation by atleast 10 maybe 14 And even by not doing all those thing - by not playing a perfect game, we may still have won if not for blatant missed calls. This is my point. Given our recent experience and that of other teams (see Seattle getting completely robbed when SF committed blatant PI in the end zone on the last play of the season as an example) it is clear that the refs are doing what is required. These aren't one-offs anymore, and the refs don't suck. As I've stated elsewhere, the refs throw flags for minimal (if at all) offenses from half way across the field and then we are expected to believe they "miss" the obvious ones in front of their faces? As fans we don't want to believe it. We love football and professional football in particular. I understand. It's a hard pill to swallow. I've been saying the NBA has been rigged for 30 years, and it is. There is more and more (and more) evidence which suggests the NFL is too. The kicker to my thinking is the fact that the league has the resources to correct the problem, assuming they'd want it corrected, and it appears they do not since they refuse to leverage those resources. The "sport" of football ends in college. The NFL is pure entertainment, and the league, at a minimum at best, is influencing the results.
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