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jeanpierre 03-18-2020 09:37 AM

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st thomas 03-18-2020 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 882046)
Seems like it. We might as well just ride with Kiko at this point and spend the money elsewhere. Maybe try to pull off a trade.


Kiko 3rd acl? Likely not going to make the cut.


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jeanpierre 03-18-2020 09:43 AM

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RefsRobbedUs 03-18-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 882034)
Robby Anderson

Yeah he is asking for too much. Probably why he isn’t signed

jeanpierre 03-18-2020 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 882046)
Seems like it. We might as well just ride with Kiko at this point and spend the money elsewhere. Maybe try to pull off a trade.

Two things to keep in mind...

First, we've amassed some talent at LBer now; while we can debate Anzalone's health, there's Kaden Elliss as well as Chase Hansen, who had a fourth round grade till a lingering college injury hurt his draft stock...

Second, we're in 4-3 under less than a 1/3 of the time (that's probably generous); the nickel is really the base defense now and other than kick coverage, the modern game has relegated 3 or more LBers obsolete...

And we've got fourth, fifth, sixth round picks where we can add a fifth, maybe sixth LBer that would have talent not only on special teams, but on kick coverage...

Now, Robinson is older, but we have Demario, Anzalone, Kiko, Robinson, Ellis all rested up coming back already that can play base defense as well; not that a LBer can have an impact, but DB, DE is more important...

jeanpierre 03-18-2020 10:02 AM

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K Major 03-18-2020 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 882057)
Two things to keep in mind...

First, we've amassed some talent at LBer now; while we can debate Anzalone's health, there's Kaden Elliss as well as Chase Hansen, who had a fourth round grade till a lingering college injury hurt his draft stock...

Second, we're in 4-3 under less than a 1/3 of the time (that's probably generous); the nickel is really the base defense now and other than kick coverage, the modern game has relegated 3 or more LBers obsolete...

And we've got fourth, fifth, sixth round picks where we can add a fifth, maybe sixth LBer that would have talent not only on special teams, but on kick coverage...

Now, Robinson is older, but we have Demario, Anzalone, Kiko, Robinson, Ellis all rested up coming back already that can play base defense as well; not that a LBer can have an impact, but DB, DE is more important...

I hear you however on paper ... collectively, the linebacker position as a group isn't all that impressive. Then + add in we've lost the best LB coach in the business.

It gets really old when we have to rely on lower round/undrafted players or guys who are always injured. Elliss is essentially still a rookie, coming off a knee tear & Craig is SLOW. Who knows how many games we'll get out of Anzalone.

We know how the Saints like to "trade up" to get their guy ... Isaiah Simmons or Murray could be that player in 2020 draft.

Gotta get faster at the position. Demario needs help.

rezburna 03-18-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 882057)
Two things to keep in mind...

First, we've amassed some talent at LBer now; while we can debate Anzalone's health, there's Kaden Elliss as well as Chase Hansen, who had a fourth round grade till a lingering college injury hurt his draft stock...

Second, we're in 4-3 under less than a 1/3 of the time (that's probably generous); the nickel is really the base defense now and other than kick coverage, the modern game has relegated 3 or more LBers obsolete...

And we've got fourth, fifth, sixth round picks where we can add a fifth, maybe sixth LBer that would have talent not only on special teams, but on kick coverage...

Now, Robinson is older, but we have Demario, Anzalone, Kiko, Robinson, Ellis all rested up coming back already that can play base defense as well; not that a LBer can have an impact, but DB, DE is more important...

Understood, but I feel like we need to have the capability to go 4-3 to deal with the run. Also, smart teams killed us to the outside with sweeps and tosses. We have to get faster from sideline to sideline. I know Anzalone can do it, but he has to stay on the field. If any position was weak this year, it was LB’er.

st thomas 03-18-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 882062)
Understood, but I feel like we need to have the capability to go 4-3 to deal with the run. Also, smart teams killed us to the outside with sweeps and tosses. We have to get faster from sideline to sideline. I know Anzalone can do it, but he has to stay on the field. If any position was weak this year, it was LB’er.


I looked back at the few games alozone played he’s pretty good sideline to sideline. but up the gut on him he’s kind of tunnel vision and he gets knocked out of a play by not fighting thru some blocks.


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rezburna 03-18-2020 11:48 AM

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We signed Malcolm Jenkins.


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