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Rugby Saint II 01-21-2020 12:33 PM

Senior Bowl
 
My buddy has press passes and we try to go to practice every year. After my rugby match Saturday we will be going to the game. I've been asked more than once if I'm a scout because I'm decked out in Saints gear.

Who should I keep an eye on? I'll be watching the wide receivers mostly.

K Major 01-21-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 877871)
My buddy has press passes and we try to go to practice every year. After my rugby match Saturday we will be going to the game. I've been asked more than once if I'm a scout because I'm decked out in Saints gear.

Who should I keep an eye on? I'll be watching the wide receivers mostly.

Everyone :p … but here's some guys to watch.

G - Bredeson Michigan
G- Jonah Jackson OSU

QB - Herbert Oregon
QB - Hurts Oklahoma

WR - Pittman Jr USC
WR - Duevernay Texas

neugey 01-21-2020 03:54 PM

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Find us a brute at left or right guard, please and thank you.

K Major 01-21-2020 05:11 PM

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G. WR and LB.

QB … Jordan Love. Here's his chance to make some "noise" like Josh Allen did.
The Saints will need to draft a QB either this year or next.

halloween 65 01-21-2020 07:11 PM

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G, RB, and a true FS for starters. Also if you don't mind a press cb. out of Florida State named Stanford Samuals lll.

gulfgambler 01-22-2020 10:06 AM

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The women; there gorgeous in south Alabama

SmashMouth 01-22-2020 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 877871)
My buddy has press passes and we try to go to practice every year. After my rugby match Saturday we will be going to the game. I've been asked more than once if I'm a scout because I'm decked out in Saints gear.

Who should I keep an eye on? I'll be watching the wide receivers mostly.

Cool... please keep an eye out for an Andrus Peat replacement. That is an area of need for the Saints. :bng:

SmashMouth 01-22-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 877898)
G. WR and LB.

QB … Jordan Love. Here's his chance to make some "noise" like Josh Allen did.
The Saints will need to draft a QB either this year or next.

Tua?

jeanpierre 01-22-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 877946)
Tua?

He's already got one hip in the retirement home...Bo Jackson?

Rugby Saint II 01-22-2020 11:56 AM

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I always watch the big uglies but besides a bull rush I don't know what to look for. I'll keep an eye on the QB's as well but it's hard to determine an NFL QB attributes besides a pretty ball.

K Major 01-22-2020 12:05 PM

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Tua?

That injury really scares me Smash.

Especially with a top pick. I'm proceeding with caution however I'd ultimately pass on Tua in the draft.

K Major 01-22-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 877973)
I always watch the big uglies but besides a bull rush I don't know what to look for. I'll keep an eye on the QB's as well but it's hard to determine an NFL QB attributes besides a pretty ball.

This is true.

IIRC Josh Allen had some good and bad moments at the senior bowl however he's progressed well at the next level.

Crusader 01-23-2020 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 877977)
This is true.

IIRC Josh Allen had some good and bad moments at the senior bowl however he's progressed well at the next level.

You can always look for the boneheaded stuff, the real head scratching desicions, balls that shouldn't have been thrown etc.

Crusader 01-23-2020 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 877973)
I always watch the big uglies but besides a bull rush I don't know what to look for.

Ability to keep leverage, balance. Hand placement, ability to Place themselves between the defender and the ball etc.

jeanpierre 01-23-2020 06:37 AM

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Quarterback Scouting?

Well, first things you look for his what he physically measures? Some of these things can be problematic, but overcome - Drew Brees' height for example...

Second, is can he make all the throws consistently? If the out throw (intermediate distance to sideline) with zip (as to avoid pick-6) and the deep ball are not there forget it...

But touch as it's referred also has to be there; and that encompasses not only lobs to a RB for a screen but all passes that arrive to the receiver optimally so they have advantage for YAC...

Third, would be pocket presence and mobility, that symbiotic relationship with the offensive line to stay protected to allow for consistent throwing motion; being able to gash defenses upfield and keep them honest...

Fourth, and this is where Senior Bowls and QB camps are of another benefit, how quickly do they process and adapt; most teams are successful on their initial drives and then defenses adapt...

But how those QBs can counter-adapt and still have enough moves, throws, and maintain their composure can be gauged as the landscape of the game is constantly shifting underneath them...

Fifth, and this is the other opportunity the Senior Bowls and QB camps afford, how quickly does the leadership qualities show where that QB steps up and takes charge of men he barely knows...

A pet peeve where the NFL Combine falls short - every attendee should have time to interview with all 32 NFL franchises; with the financial resources available to the NFL, not having enough time is a BS excuse...

Football is all these folks do. It is their careers, livelihood. If the combines need to be longer, or expand the regional combines, do it. The NFL can market those events and increase profits to offset costs...

K Major 01-23-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 877871)
My buddy has press passes and we try to go to practice every year. After my rugby match Saturday we will be going to the game. I've been asked more than once if I'm a scout because I'm decked out in Saints gear.

Who should I keep an eye on? I'll be watching the wide receivers mostly.

Hey Rugs,

Utah State QB Jordan Love name is coming up quite a bit at Senior bowl practices. Saints will have to draft a QB either this year or next. Who knows ... let the guy "sit" for a year, then let's geaux!

Keep a lazy eye on him as well ;).

Due Diligence.

Rugby Saint II 01-23-2020 01:05 PM

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The practice has been moved inside and is closed to the public. Heavy rain at practice. My apologies. Great info though ya'll.

jeanpierre 01-24-2020 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 878057)
Hey Rugs,

Utah State QB Jordan Love name is coming up quite a bit at Senior bowl practices. Saints will have to draft a QB either this year or next. Who knows ... let the guy "sit" for a year, then let's geaux!

Keep a lazy eye on him as well ;).

Due Diligence.

Jordan Love = Colin Kaepernick, and I'm not poking the political rattler, but rather the very extreme variances in consistent play...

The next day and Love was missing all over the field; yes, he has the athleticism but apparently not focus, and as we learned with Kenny Vaccaro, you can't take meds for ADD or other failure-to-focus ailments...

AsylumGuido 01-24-2020 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 878120)
Jordan Love = Colin Kaepernick, and I'm not poking the political rattler, but rather the very extreme variances in consistent play...

The next day and Love was missing all over the field; yes, he has the athleticism but apparently not focus, and as we learned with Kenny Vaccaro, you can't take meds for ADD or other failure-to-focus ailments...

They can with a league issued therapeutic use exemption (TUE) which has to be renewed annually. The NFL doesn't disclose how many of the exemptions are issued, but major league baseball does and they had 111 active recently for Adderall alone.

K Major 01-24-2020 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 878120)
Jordan Love = Colin Kaepernick, and I'm not poking the political rattler, but rather the very extreme variances in consistent play...

The next day and Love was missing all over the field; yes, he has the athleticism but apparently not focus, and as we learned with Kenny Vaccaro, you can't take meds for ADD or other failure-to-focus ailments...

Golic and co were speaking about Jordan this morning.

Lack of talent around him in 2019 as compared to 18, accuracy issues etc.

Some scouts even made the comparison with Pat Mahommes (gunslinger mentality) w/Love ... and we know how Sean P felt about Pat coming out of the draft. If Andy didn't select him, he was coming to NO.

Utah St was clearly outmatched vs LSU last year but you saw some NFL throws from JL. IMO Love could be a real possibility for us.

Finding & drafting a franchise QB is so hard to do at the elite level.

jeanpierre 01-24-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 878123)
They can with a league issued therapeutic use exemption (TUE) which has to be renewed annually. The NFL doesn't disclose how many of the exemptions are issued, but major league baseball does and they had 111 active recently for Adderall alone.

Correct! Kenny V stated he was just tired and forgot all about the rule thing and then got popped the following Monday morning...

However, long-term studies of Adderall use for ADHD suggest heart disease, and we've been down that road as well; sucks, but prior-medicals are always problematic...

Rugby Saint II 01-26-2020 11:05 AM

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AT&T doesn't carry the NFL network anymore(I guess Godhell pissed them off too). Would anyone care to share the highlights?

K Major 01-27-2020 10:43 AM

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https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/editor...raft-prospects

papz 01-27-2020 12:37 PM

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I like Anthony Gordon. I think he has the right tools to be a pretty good pro quarterback and a fraction of the cost in regards to some of the other guys.

TheOak 01-27-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 877944)
Cool... please keep an eye out for an Andrus Peat replacement. That is an area of need for the Saints. :bng:

Was it me or did Peat move faster in the Pro Bowl than regular season... a time when everyone else was playing 3/4 speed..

vpheughan 01-28-2020 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 878448)

The conservative approach signing and drafting high-profile receivers are not the norm in New Orleans.

Really? Robert Meachem, Kenny Stills, Brandin Cooks, Michael Thomas

Rugby Saint II 01-28-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 878533)
The conservative approach signing and drafting high-profile receivers are not the norm in New Orleans.

Really? Robert Meachem, Kenny Stills, Brandin Cooks, Michael Thomas

This seems to be the one area where Payton believes that he can develop late round talent. I don't know why.(Edit: Colston) Except that maybe Drew can make them look good. Drew's arm strength is deteriorating and that's why we brought in MT when he started his decline. We need another stud.

In the beginning Payton surrounded Drew with top draft picks at the WR position because Drew wasn't a legend yet. We went away from that in the prime years and it's time to go back to possession receivers....we don't need a speedster because we can't throw it deep consistently anymore.

iceshack149 01-28-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 878465)
Was it me or did Peat move faster in the Pro Bowl than regular season... a time when everyone else was playing 3/4 speed..

I didn't watch but it would make sense. He is trying to get a big contract and even though the Pro Bowl is a joke (why was Peat there in the first place?) being there and looking good playing in it may entice another team's GM enough to throw a bunch of money at Peat to get him to their team.

K Major 01-28-2020 11:54 AM

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Andrus Peat was defeated a lot last season. He's either on his back, placed on IR or putting his QB in bad spots. Easton was solid as back up, helping Brees have a really good December. The minute Peat returns, he's back to looking awful again.

I try to be as objective as I can on Saints players, however when it comes to Andrus Peat, he's one guy I hope is not on our team in 2020.


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