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SmashMouth 01-31-2020 11:31 PM
Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 

TheOak 02-01-2020 05:04 AM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
Sigh..... making content where the NFL has none.

One would expect every team in the league to scout a First Round QB in case he fell. It is called due diligence. Payton trying to play nice with the league.

The discussion about Mahomes draft should be with Bengals, Panthers, Chargers, Jets, Titans, Jags, 49ers, Bears, Browns.... And why they didnt pick him. Really Chicago... Why Trubisky over Mahomes and how do you feel about that pick on a polygraph.

vpheughan 02-01-2020 07:36 AM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 878948)
Sigh..... making content where the NFL has none.

One would expect every team in the league to scout a First Round QB in case he fell. It is called due diligence. Payton trying to play nice with the league.

The discussion about Mahomes draft should be with Bengals, Panthers, Chargers, Jets, Titans, Jags, 49ers, Bears, Browns.... And why they didnt pick him. Really Chicago... Why Trubisky over Mahomes and how do you feel about that pick on a polygraph.

Shanahan's WANTING to win the Super Bowl may have drifted into the NEED to win the Super Bowl after...........

For one, the 49ers weren't entirely sold on Mahomes. Shanahan had interacted with the quarterback at the NFL Scouting Combine, but the team wasn't certain he'd prove worthy of the second pick in the draft.

"I didn't look into him obviously as much as I should have," Shanahan said Tuesday. "We definitely looked into him, studied all of his tape. Was just a freak, could make any throw, had the ability to do anything. That was a little bit different situation for us. We had the second pick in the draft, did not feel like from all the intel that you get and stuff that he was gonna go that high."

CHA_CHING 02-02-2020 12:18 AM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 878953)
Shanahan's WANTING to win the Super Bowl may have drifted into the NEED to win the Super Bowl after...........

For one, the 49ers weren't entirely sold on Mahomes. Shanahan had interacted with the quarterback at the NFL Scouting Combine, but the team wasn't certain he'd prove worthy of the second pick in the draft.

"I didn't look into him obviously as much as I should have," Shanahan said Tuesday. "We definitely looked into him, studied all of his tape. Was just a freak, could make any throw, had the ability to do anything. That was a little bit different situation for us. We had the second pick in the draft, did not feel like from all the intel that you get and stuff that he was gonna go that high."
I disagree with this. I get what you're saying here, but the Niners really wouldn't need Mahomes. They've made Jimmy G serviceable and I really think people over-exaggerate how "bad" he is. He came into the dome and lit us up.

The Niners have the more balanced team and more depth in this SB.

K.C. really reminds me of our old Saints teams during Brees' prime. They have a top 3 elite QB, elite WRs and a powerhouse offense, but their defense is average at best and when they're not even average, they're straight up garbage. Ranked 28th against the run. I expect the Niners to beat them to a bloody pulp tomorrow.

OldMaid 02-02-2020 06:40 AM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
Well I am glad the Saints did not get him.
It would have been a waste of time and talent and years with no career for Mahomes to be here.
Everything in his universe worked out as it was supposed to be. He is where he was, is suppose to be.

Vrillon82 02-03-2020 12:18 AM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 878969)
I disagree with this. I get what you're saying here, but the Niners really wouldn't need Mahomes. They've made Jimmy G serviceable and I really think people over-exaggerate how "bad" he is. He came into the dome and lit us up.

The Niners have the more balanced team and more depth in this SB.

K.C. really reminds me of our old Saints teams during Brees' prime. They have a top 3 elite QB, elite WRs and a powerhouse offense, but their defense is average at best and when they're not even average, they're straight up garbage. Ranked 28th against the run. I expect the Niners to beat them to a bloody pulp tomorrow.

Jimmy G is starting to remind me of another Jared Goff. We see how that worked out in L.A. to.

Thats 2 West division or west coast teams knocked out in the SB by the AFC for 2 straight years.

Then neither one is the best QB in their division, go figure.

AsylumGuido 02-03-2020 07:13 AM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 878969)
I disagree with this. I get what you're saying here, but the Niners really wouldn't need Mahomes. They've made Jimmy G serviceable and I really think people over-exaggerate how "bad" he is. He came into the dome and lit us up.

The Niners have the more balanced team and more depth in this SB.

K.C. really reminds me of our old Saints teams during Brees' prime. They have a top 3 elite QB, elite WRs and a powerhouse offense, but their defense is average at best and when they're not even average, they're straight up garbage. Ranked 28th against the run. I expect the Niners to beat them to a bloody pulp tomorrow.
What happened to the Niners beating the Chiefs to a bloody pulp?

vpheughan 02-03-2020 07:35 AM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
They've made Jimmy G serviceable and I really think people over-exaggerate how "bad" he is. He came into the dome and lit us up.

So happy he picked a "serviceable" QB over an Elite one while blowing double digit fourth quarter leads in two Super Bowls!!

He's an offensive genius!!! Just ask him!!

K Major 02-03-2020 07:39 AM
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Pat Mahommes played great when he had to.

He's a closer.

OldMaid 02-03-2020 09:20 AM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 879074)
Pat Mahommes played great when he had to.

He's a closer.

And a SB winner. And SB MVP.
And is a very smart player and leader, young guy , with a nice future in NFL.
He comes across likable too so for marketing purposes to the masses, that is a win.

neugey 02-03-2020 11:32 AM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
Mahomes came through at the end, but there's room for growth. He'll need to get more accurate throwing from the pocket.

Rugby Saint II 02-03-2020 02:08 PM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
He overcame another double digit deficit to win. He threw two interceptions I believe and still had the Moxy to come back and win the Super bowl. Way to go Patrick. You've got a bright future. Congratulations on beating a tough 49'ers team who I thought would win.

CHA_CHING 02-03-2020 07:36 PM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
Hats off to Mahomes for that comeback last night. That was incredible.

Here I thought Kyle Shanahan had learned, and I thought Jimmy G was better than this mainly due to how he lit us up and carved up our defense. But still, Shanahan abandoned the run when it was working for them. You're up 20-10 and get an INT, then don't run the ball. Even when up 20-17, they got 2 big runs and went back to passing. It was like Shanny wanted Jimmy G to be SB MVP so bad, he forgot his game plan. They gave Reid just enough time to figure out that defense and Mahomes made the plays in the end.

Can you guys imagine had we drafted Mahomes in 2017? We wouldn't be having any of these silly arguments right now about the future.

I've been thinking about this all day... Had we drafted Mahomes; we wouldn't be trying to convince ourselves that a 31 year old running QB is the future cause Payton thinks he's the next Steve Young. Nor would we be sitting here arguing about a 41 year old Brees and talking about his percentage completion stats that are inflated due to check downs.

There would also be no arguments for Bridgewater. Had Mahomes came in and had that 5-0 win streak, it would've been hilarious seeing the Brees loyalists try to argue that one. Mahomes wouldn't have had people yelling "throw it to Teddy!", he would've been slinging it it across the field. Mahomes would've lit it up in Payton's offense like he has in Reid's.

If we had Mahomes, those receivers who supposedly never can get open cause they have to wait on Brees' slow passes, would've been open and catching bombs.

I wish we could've drafted him. We could've had a transition like the Niners had with Montana to Young or the Packers with Favre to Rodgers. We would be OK right now even if he had to sit on the bench at 24 years old.

vpheughan 02-04-2020 10:33 AM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 879146)
Hats off to Mahomes for that comeback last night. That was incredible.

Here I thought Kyle Shanahan had learned, and I thought Jimmy G was better than this mainly due to how he lit us up and carved up our defense. But still, Shanahan abandoned the run when it was working for them. You're up 20-10 and get an INT, then don't run the ball. Even when up 20-17, they got 2 big runs and went back to passing. It was like Shanny wanted Jimmy G to be SB MVP so bad, he forgot his game plan. They gave Reid just enough time to figure out that defense and Mahomes made the plays in the end.

Can you guys imagine had we drafted Mahomes in 2017? We wouldn't be having any of these silly arguments right now about the future.

I've been thinking about this all day... Had we drafted Mahomes; we wouldn't be trying to convince ourselves that a 31 year old running QB is the future cause Payton thinks he's the next Steve Young. Nor would we be sitting here arguing about a 41 year old Brees and talking about his percentage completion stats that are inflated due to check downs.

There would also be no arguments for Bridgewater. Had Mahomes came in and had that 5-0 win streak, it would've been hilarious seeing the Brees loyalists try to argue that one. Mahomes wouldn't have had people yelling "throw it to Teddy!", he would've been slinging it it across the field. Mahomes would've lit it up in Payton's offense like he has in Reid's.

If we had Mahomes, those receivers who supposedly never can get open cause they have to wait on Brees' slow passes, would've been open and catching bombs.

I wish we could've drafted him. We could've had a transition like the Niners had with Montana to Young or the Packers with Favre to Rodgers. We would be OK right now even if he had to sit on the bench at 24 years old.
Shanahan: Outscored 46 - 0 in the 4th quarter and OT of two Super Bowls.

K Major 02-04-2020 10:46 AM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
Shanahan now 0-2 in Super bowl appearances ... IIRC he was leading by double digits heading into the 4th in both.

Those will sting awhile. Maybe forever in his mind.

Budsdrinker 02-04-2020 12:16 PM
Re: Sean Payton shares how closely Saints scouted Patrick Mahomes
 
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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 879146)
Hats off to Mahomes for that comeback last night. That was incredible.

Here I thought Kyle Shanahan had learned, and I thought Jimmy G was better than this mainly due to how he lit us up and carved up our defense. But still, Shanahan abandoned the run when it was working for them. You're up 20-10 and get an INT, then don't run the ball. Even when up 20-17, they got 2 big runs and went back to passing. It was like Shanny wanted Jimmy G to be SB MVP so bad, he forgot his game plan. They gave Reid just enough time to figure out that defense and Mahomes made the plays in the end.

Can you guys imagine had we drafted Mahomes in 2017? We wouldn't be having any of these silly arguments right now about the future.

I've been thinking about this all day... Had we drafted Mahomes; we wouldn't be trying to convince ourselves that a 31 year old running QB is the future cause Payton thinks he's the next Steve Young. Nor would we be sitting here arguing about a 41 year old Brees and talking about his percentage completion stats that are inflated due to check downs.

There would also be no arguments for Bridgewater. Had Mahomes came in and had that 5-0 win streak, it would've been hilarious seeing the Brees loyalists try to argue that one. Mahomes wouldn't have had people yelling "throw it to Teddy!", he would've been slinging it it across the field. Mahomes would've lit it up in Payton's offense like he has in Reid's.

If we had Mahomes, those receivers who supposedly never can get open cause they have to wait on Brees' slow passes, would've been open and catching bombs.

I wish we could've drafted him. We could've had a transition like the Niners had with Montana to Young or the Packers with Favre to Rodgers. We would be OK right now even if he had to sit on the bench at 24 years old.
Another reason to hate the Buffalo Bills. They traded Lynch to Seattle when Payton was interested in bringing him to New Orleans in 2010 and they traded the 10th pick to KC when we were in position to draft Mahomes with the 11th pick in 2017.


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