2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

jeanpierre · 03-13-2020, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I would. Elite pass rushers with his ability are hard to find at this level.

My spider senses tell me no way AJ falls to 24 but then again no one expected a stud lineman (Ramz) to drop either.

Reason why I point this out, recognizing many similarities, in so far as the player position rankings, to the 2011 NFL Draft when we took Cam Jordan at No. 24...

Epenesa reminds me of Cam Jordan is measurables, playing style, et cetera...

K Major · 03-13-2020, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Reason why I point this out, recognizing many similarities, in so far as the player position rankings, to the 2011 NFL Draft when we took Cam Jordan at No. 24...

Epenesa reminds me of Cam Jordan is measurables, playing style, et cetera...

Last thing on the DE situation ...

Davenport has yet to prove (2 seasons and counting) he can stay healthy. Love his ability to set the edge (when healthy), speed and talent to get in the backfield but he was watching his team in street clothes when we needed him the most - see Vikings wild card game.

Cam J needs help coming off the edge.

Signing a mid/lower tier DE (think Okafor) in Free Agency would help our depth & rotation.

RefsRobbedUs · 03-13-2020, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Last thing on the DE situation ...

Davenport has yet to prove (2 seasons and counting) he can stay healthy. Love his ability to set the edge (when healthy), speed and talent to get in the backfield but he was watching his team in street clothes when we needed him the most - see Vikings wild card game.

Cam J needs help coming off the edge.

Signing a mid/lower tier DE (think Okafor) in Free Agency would help our depth & rotation.

i would like robert quinn i knew we were interested before he went to dallas

jeanpierre · 03-14-2020, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

i would like robert quinn i knew we were interested before he went to dallas

To me, there are two general types of defensive linemen, big and strong who controlling the line of scrimmage versus quick and fast, disrupters who penetrate and attack the ball carriers before the play can set up...

The former group of big, strong tend to have longer careers than the latter speed guys mainly due to age plus wear & tear; my concern with Quinn is that he'll be 30 this season...

Epenesa is very much like the big and strong type of lineman that Cam Jordan is and that's why I'm seeing in rankings and mocks there's a chance he could fall to us which presents an intriguing situation...

jeanpierre · 03-14-2020, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Last thing on the DE situation ...

Davenport has yet to prove (2 seasons and counting) he can stay healthy. Love his ability to set the edge (when healthy), speed and talent to get in the backfield but he was watching his team in street clothes when we needed him the most - see Vikings wild card game.

Cam J needs help coming off the edge.

Signing a mid/lower tier DE (think Okafor) in Free Agency would help our depth & rotation.

Under 30yo Defensive Ends:

Dante Fowler and Bud Dupree have been disappointing until 2019 when each had 11.5 sacks last year; so did they figure things out or contract year performers? Both likely are unaffordable, too big a risk...

Carl Nassib has had at least 6.0 sacks in his two seasons with Tampa Bay and is comparable in build to Davenport, and we currently have this performer in Hendrickson...

Emmanuel Ogbah had 5.0 sacks in ten games for the Chiefs, but has been unable to be available, so is signing a guy who likely won't be around in the playoffs really productive?

Then there's the curious case of 49ers FA Ronald Blair who's had some success in limited reps on a talented 49ers defensive line. Is the success due to surrounding talent (Bama effect) or is there value?

03-13-2020, 08:25 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major I would. Elite pass rushers with his ability are hard to find at this level. My spider senses tell me no way AJ falls to 24 but then again no one expected a stud lineman (Ramz) to drop either. Reason why I point this out, recognizing many similarities, in so far as the player position rankings, to the 2011 NFL Draft when we took Cam Jordan at No. 24... Epenesa reminds me of Cam Jordan is measurables, playing style, et cetera... K Major likes this.

03-13-2020, 09:05 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,826 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Reason why I point this out, recognizing many similarities, in so far as the player position rankings, to the 2011 NFL Draft when we took Cam Jordan at No. 24... Epenesa reminds me of Cam Jordan is measurables, playing style, et cetera... Last thing on the DE situation ... Davenport has yet to prove (2 seasons and counting) he can stay healthy. Love his ability to set the edge (when healthy), speed and talent to get in the backfield but he was watching his team in street clothes when we needed him the most - see Vikings wild card game. Cam J needs help coming off the edge. Signing a mid/lower tier DE (think Okafor) in Free Agency would help our depth & rotation. jeanpierre likes this.

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03-14-2020, 03:10 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs i would like robert quinn i knew we were interested before he went to dallas To me, there are two general types of defensive linemen, big and strong who controlling the line of scrimmage versus quick and fast, disrupters who penetrate and attack the ball carriers before the play can set up... The former group of big, strong tend to have longer careers than the latter speed guys mainly due to age plus wear & tear; my concern with Quinn is that he'll be 30 this season... Epenesa is very much like the big and strong type of lineman that Cam Jordan is and that's why I'm seeing in rankings and mocks there's a chance he could fall to us which presents an intriguing situation...
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03-14-2020, 03:25 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major Last thing on the DE situation ... Davenport has yet to prove (2 seasons and counting) he can stay healthy. Love his ability to set the edge (when healthy), speed and talent to get in the backfield but he was watching his team in street clothes when we needed him the most - see Vikings wild card game. Cam J needs help coming off the edge. Signing a mid/lower tier DE (think Okafor) in Free Agency would help our depth & rotation. Under 30yo Defensive Ends: Dante Fowler and Bud Dupree have been disappointing until 2019 when each had 11.5 sacks last year; so did they figure things out or contract year performers? Both likely are unaffordable, too big a risk... Carl Nassib has had at least 6.0 sacks in his two seasons with Tampa Bay and is comparable in build to Davenport, and we currently have this performer in Hendrickson... Emmanuel Ogbah had 5.0 sacks in ten games for the Chiefs, but has been unable to be available, so is signing a guy who likely won't be around in the playoffs really productive? Then there's the curious case of 49ers FA Ronald Blair who's had some success in limited reps on a talented 49ers defensive line. Is the success due to surrounding talent (Bama effect) or is there value? RefsRobbedUs likes this.
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