2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

jeanpierre · 07-25-2020, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The final 10 didn't have a shot to make it anyway. They are always camp bodies for preseason games. With no preseason games they aren't needed anyway.

AG, the same was said of Marques Colston, Zach Strief, Will Clapp, J.T. Gray, Shy Tuttle, just to name a few...

Utah_Saint · 07-25-2020, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

AG, the same was said of Marques Colston, Zach Strief, Will Clapp, J.T. Gray, Shy Tuttle, just to name a few...

Pierre Thomas was one of the best.

jeanpierre · 07-25-2020, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The final 10 didn't have a shot to make it anyway. They are always camp bodies for preseason games. With no preseason games they aren't needed anyway.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

AG, the same was said of Marques Colston, Zach Strief, Will Clapp, J.T. Gray, Shy Tuttle, just to name a few...

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Pierre Thomas was one of the best.

True Dat, Utah. How could I have forgotten PT?!? Text Book Screen Pass Football...

AsylumGuido · 07-26-2020, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

AG, the same was said of Marques Colston, Zach Strief, Will Clapp, J.T. Gray, Shy Tuttle, just to name a few...

How do you know any of them were bottom of the rung out of the 90 man roster? That's all that's being eliminated and that cut isn't even taking place until August.

jeanpierre · 07-26-2020, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How do you know any of them were bottom of the rung out of the 90 man roster? That's all that's being eliminated and that cut isn't even taking place until August.

Go back and read the discussions and press...

Strief, by his own admission stated he was ready to quit, that he didn't belong; ask him the next time to go by his brewery and grille, he'll tell you...

AsylumGuido · 07-26-2020, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Go back and read the discussions and press...

Strief, by his own admission stated he was ready to quit, that he didn't belong; ask him the next time to go by his brewery and grille, he'll tell you...

Oh, I would believe that's what he thought. But, discussions and press cannot be in the minds of those that actually make decisions. That's why I note what I have heard from GM's and coaches about the early roster decision making. I don't doubt Strief was outside the original 53. Possibly outside of the eight (at that time) practice squad list. But he was likely inside the 75 early on. I can't imagine he would be 81-90 as a draft pick.

That's who we are talking about. Those last ten that are only there to take snaps. While those players you mentioned, including Pierre Thomas, may not have been in the 53 originally, they surely weren't in the bottom of the barrel dredges (81-90) when camp began. Any player drafted (Strief, Colston, etc.) was going to clear that cut to 75.

jeanpierre · 07-26-2020, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Oh, I would believe that's what he thought. But, discussions and press cannot be in the minds of those that actually make decisions. That's why I note what I have heard from GM's and coaches about the early roster decision making. I don't doubt Strief was outside the original 53. Possibly outside of the eight (at that time) practice squad list. But he was likely inside the 75 early on. I can't imagine he would be 81-90 as a draft pick.

That's who we are talking about. Those last ten that are only there to take snaps. While those players you mentioned, including Pierre Thomas, may not have been in the 53 originally, they surely weren't in the bottom of the barrel dredges (81-90) when camp began. Any player drafted (Strief, Colston, etc.) was going to clear that cut to 75.

AG, 2007 the Saints drafted RB Antonio Pittman, Ohio State in R4, Pick 107; and signed UDFA Pierre Thomas - you just made my case, Brother...

AsylumGuido · 07-26-2020, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

AG, 2007 the Saints drafted RB Antonio Pittman, Ohio State in R4, Pick 107; and signed UDFA Pierre Thomas - you just made my case, Brother...

Pittman was cut on my birthday, September 1, 2007, to make room for Pierre Thomas. In 2007 the roster was cut to 53 on August 28. Pittman made the initial 53 but was cut a few days later to make room for Thomas who made the cut to 75. Neither were in that 81-90 range.

You just made my case, Brother.

jeanpierre · 07-26-2020, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Pittman was cut on my birthday, September 1, 2007, to make room for Pierre Thomas. In 2007 the roster was cut to 53 on August 28. Pittman made the initial 53 but was cut a few days later to make room for Thomas who made the cut to 75. Neither were in that 81-90 range.

You just made my case, Brother.

You just argued that draft picks were making the roster, and I pointed out to you where Pittman was gone and P.T. was kept as the season got underway, you made my argument...

That's the importance of training camp, preseason games, as guys are giving opportunities some rise and some fall...

Thomas was considered a camp body, and as TC and PreSeason wore on, it was apparent who was the better RB...

If any team has shown you don't idly discount anyone on the roster, it's the New Orleans Saints...

07-25-2020, 05:52 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The final 10 didn't have a shot to make it anyway. They are always camp bodies for preseason games. With no preseason games they aren't needed anyway. AG, the same was said of Marques Colston, Zach Strief, Will Clapp, J.T. Gray, Shy Tuttle, just to name a few...

07-25-2020, 07:52 PM	#2
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre AG, the same was said of Marques Colston, Zach Strief, Will Clapp, J.T. Gray, Shy Tuttle, just to name a few... Pierre Thomas was one of the best.

07-25-2020, 10:09 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The final 10 didn't have a shot to make it anyway. They are always camp bodies for preseason games. With no preseason games they aren't needed anyway. Originally Posted by jeanpierre AG, the same was said of Marques Colston, Zach Strief, Will Clapp, J.T. Gray, Shy Tuttle, just to name a few... Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Pierre Thomas was one of the best. True Dat, Utah. How could I have forgotten PT?!? Text Book Screen Pass Football...

07-26-2020, 10:08 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre AG, the same was said of Marques Colston, Zach Strief, Will Clapp, J.T. Gray, Shy Tuttle, just to name a few... How do you know any of them were bottom of the rung out of the 90 man roster? That's all that's being eliminated and that cut isn't even taking place until August.

07-26-2020, 03:07 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How do you know any of them were bottom of the rung out of the 90 man roster? That's all that's being eliminated and that cut isn't even taking place until August. Go back and read the discussions and press... Strief, by his own admission stated he was ready to quit, that he didn't belong; ask him the next time to go by his brewery and grille, he'll tell you...

07-26-2020, 04:50 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Go back and read the discussions and press... Strief, by his own admission stated he was ready to quit, that he didn't belong; ask him the next time to go by his brewery and grille, he'll tell you... Oh, I would believe that's what he thought. But, discussions and press cannot be in the minds of those that actually make decisions. That's why I note what I have heard from GM's and coaches about the early roster decision making. I don't doubt Strief was outside the original 53. Possibly outside of the eight (at that time) practice squad list. But he was likely inside the 75 early on. I can't imagine he would be 81-90 as a draft pick. That's who we are talking about. Those last ten that are only there to take snaps. While those players you mentioned, including Pierre Thomas, may not have been in the 53 originally, they surely weren't in the bottom of the barrel dredges (81-90) when camp began. Any player drafted (Strief, Colston, etc.) was going to clear that cut to 75.
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07-26-2020, 05:14 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Oh, I would believe that's what he thought. But, discussions and press cannot be in the minds of those that actually make decisions. That's why I note what I have heard from GM's and coaches about the early roster decision making. I don't doubt Strief was outside the original 53. Possibly outside of the eight (at that time) practice squad list. But he was likely inside the 75 early on. I can't imagine he would be 81-90 as a draft pick. That's who we are talking about. Those last ten that are only there to take snaps. While those players you mentioned, including Pierre Thomas, may not have been in the 53 originally, they surely weren't in the bottom of the barrel dredges (81-90) when camp began. Any player drafted (Strief, Colston, etc.) was going to clear that cut to 75. AG, 2007 the Saints drafted RB Antonio Pittman, Ohio State in R4, Pick 107; and signed UDFA Pierre Thomas - you just made my case, Brother...

07-26-2020, 05:28 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre AG, 2007 the Saints drafted RB Antonio Pittman, Ohio State in R4, Pick 107; and signed UDFA Pierre Thomas - you just made my case, Brother... Pittman was cut on my birthday, September 1, 2007, to make room for Pierre Thomas. In 2007 the roster was cut to 53 on August 28. Pittman made the initial 53 but was cut a few days later to make room for Thomas who made the cut to 75. Neither were in that 81-90 range. You just made my case, Brother.

07-26-2020, 05:34 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Pittman was cut on my birthday, September 1, 2007, to make room for Pierre Thomas. In 2007 the roster was cut to 53 on August 28. Pittman made the initial 53 but was cut a few days later to make room for Thomas who made the cut to 75. Neither were in that 81-90 range. You just made my case, Brother. You just argued that draft picks were making the roster, and I pointed out to you where Pittman was gone and P.T. was kept as the season got underway, you made my argument... That's the importance of training camp, preseason games, as guys are giving opportunities some rise and some fall... Thomas was considered a camp body, and as TC and PreSeason wore on, it was apparent who was the better RB... If any team has shown you don't idly discount anyone on the roster, it's the New Orleans Saints...

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