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FF would have created a poll. So in his honor, how do you rate the draft?

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No flash. Strong players with some versatility. B- potential but mostly C+ until proven which is what you want IMO. Take the given. Start reaching for some savior that rarely happens and that's when the hole can't be un-dug.

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I voted C ... the players we got have great upside, but all the moving around and not grabbing a wideout does concern me. Sure hope this draft pans out but right now it feels like a 50/50 proposition.

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They have done that forever. Not a bad strategy either. Being in debt is not a bad thing when at some point like a couple years ago we basically hit a bunch of home runs. It was probably the best Saints draft of all time. The teams with the best picks and lots of them often suck to the point where nothing is going to help them. Poor leadership.

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I’m a B- the players we really wanted got snatched up I few picks before but we biotched till the cows came home for our guard play and we filled that. We needed backer we filled that
Wasn’t expecting a TE at all so good luck with Dayton flyer baller. The QB in the last trade will be a dud. But it’s his athleticism that they pulled the trigger on . I believe he ran all over the national champions on a Saturday nite. That opened Payton’s eyes , potential possibly but gave away draft pick next year for a cat that would have been on the streets I think. Good job to all who picked the rite guys . I pumped for some [emoji458]


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We have to hope E Sanders stays healthy or we’ll be rite back where we were for last 2 years


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I give it a B. I like the picks, though I still don't like the price that was paid for Trautman. The last guy is a crap shoot. If they drafted him to be a QB it's an awful pick. If they drafted him to be a Taysom clone...well, let's see if he can handle that.

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I think that's the type of young QB that Payton is looking for. Stevens is one of those cocky confident type guys that has great athletic ability. I think as far as a passer, he believes he can mold him into one. I mean look at how well Taysom looks after just a few years under Payton's tutelage. Stevens isn't a horrible passer, but he's definitely not NFL ready. Payton will make him though.

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I rate it "Incomplete".

Until we see more, we don't know.

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Don't have a problem with what we drafted. We filled some needs and as for giving up late round picks for Trautman, if he turns out half as good as I think he will, it was worth it. I went back and looked at our 5th thru 7th round picks since 2010 and we have had 25 picks and only 3 are still with the team and another 3 playing on other teams. Once you hit 5th round it's a crap-shoot. You can hit some stars but mostly just PS material.

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I have to agree It’s just did we give up a potential pick that may be a need next year that could fall but like u said shake the dice close your eyes and roll the MFers


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If this was a math quiz getting 4( actual draft picks) out of 9( 5 draft picks total given up last year, this year, and next year) you would fail that quiz.Also, it's not set in stone these picks work out. I would give it a D simply for these facts.

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Drafting isn't a math quiz. It is a fact that 65% of draft picks never make a 53 man roster. That means only 35% do make the roster. Four out of nine (if the four make the squad eventually) would be a success rate of 44%, which in itself would be better than the average.

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I'm with 76 on the draft. Wait and see approach. It will take a year or two. Saints did ok. I think one or two could have an immediate impact in 2020. The Browns and Raiders seem to "nail" the draft every year.

At this level, all I ever hope for in the draft is that we select quality starters (Ramz, Armstead, David O) for years to come.

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With 9 picks a team has a better chance at the 35% than just 4 picks at 35%. Law of average still applies. 35% of 4 or 35% of 9 ?

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The vast majority of those that don't make it come from the 5-7 rounds. Those are the picks that we traded to move up and get players that the front office felt were "sure things".

Quality over quantity, especially for roster that are already very deep. Make no mistake about it, the Saints have one of the deepest rosters top to bottom in the entire league.

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I voted C, but I would say C+. I was very happy about Ruiz. I liked the pickup of Baum even with giving up another 3rd rounder. I was ok with Trautman, but thought we gave up a lot. I think it will be worth it if he plays as well in the NFL as he did at small school NCAA. I hated the trade back in for that QB, can't even be bothered to remember his name at the moment. I could go with B-, maybe.

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We need to see how well our new center does if we move McCoy to right guard. I have as good a feeling about him as McCoy last year. But I feel better because the front office knew we needed to upgrade center and guard. We've got a top 3 linebacker and an athletic looking tight end that has me excited. And we got another QB/joker in this draft as well. Nothing is written in stone on these guys but I'm giving them a B+ before I see them on the field.

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Tommy Stevens, and he wasn't drafted to play QB. They had him run routes when they interviewed him. He said that the Saints were interested in his playing WR and he said he was fine with that as long as he was in the league.

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Reportedly Ruiz called every defensive read for the past two years and the source said he was correct on 99% of them. That was McCoy's only issue at center. Ruiz should be a huge upgrade over McCoy and it allows McCoy to use his athleticism at guard where he should thrive. I fully expect all three of our top picks to make an immediate impact.

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A famous quote from one of my Bosses;

Because as we know, there are known knowns ; there are things things we Know. We also know there are know unknowns; That is to say we know there are some things we do not know.

I felt certain we would pick one of the available LB’s at 24, but Ruiz at 24 has to be the best football/team pick. If our QB, any one of our QB’s, can have .5- 1 second additional time in the pocket ... And then have the ability to step up into the center of pocket with dominant guards and center that allow the QB’s move up ... Priority 1 from Coach, GM and scouting.

Additionally if we can get the Oline working better for the power run game where opposing teams have to respect the running game between the tackles it will create even more mismatches for our offensive weapons. Can’t wait to see the 2 TE set with Cook and Trautman, Thomas and Sanders with Kamara or Murray out the backfield. What Defensive Coordinators nightmares are made of.

With so few real holes to fill I think they did a good job filling those needs and adding depth to the roster.

On giving up 4th 5th 6th and 7th For Trautman, what are chances any of those pick would have been anything other than camp bodies with the strength of our current roster ... “There things we know”

The QB pick ... “We also know the are know unknowns”; Defer to the Coach and Scouting staff. If Taysom comes out as the heir apparent after Brees maybe it makes sense to have similar style backup QB.

Not drafting a WR in round 1 or 3 ... Football/Team priorities. Guess they felt FA WR is a known known rather selecting and WR early that is known unknown
See WR as a possibly in the draft plan for next year.

I voted “Good but not spectacular” ... Granted selections where not liked by all on this board but hard to argue with the success the Saints have had trades and draft selections in the last 4 years.

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Just read this, the last time the saints had only 4 draft picks was in 2009. We all know what happened that year boys and girls.[emoji512]with the [emoji471]


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I remember when Taysom Hill first joined the team. His pocket presence and his passing skills were below par. Now he looks like an entirely different guy back there. I'm not saying that Taysom or Tommy Stevens is our future QB, but Payton likes to develop things from the ground up... so the idea that Payton has no intention of using TS as a QB is misguided. If Brees sticks around for a couple more years, Tommy Stevens can learn the position really quickly. I think Payton sees him as a younger Taysom Hill with more time to develop him. He may very well use him in other roles like WR, but I wouldn't exclude QB from the equation.

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Solid B for now(GOOD but not spectacular).

Nothing against Cesar but I've always felt quality starting interior lineman can be found in the middle rounds. It was a good draft overall. All 3 should become eventual starters.

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Not a lot of holes on the Saints. Ruiz will be a starter. Baun will be given an opportunity to start. Trautman will get some snaps and could develop into the future TE. Stevens was a swing at an athletic guy who posses some of the same skills as next years starting QB Hill. All of the picks seem like good people. With the lack of a normal off season, rookies will be further behind the curve than usual. All that said, I would grade it as a C-.

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C-? I tiny step above a D? Any year where you can draft three players that are potential starters it is commonly regarded as an excellent draft. To me, a C- would signify two or three players that might eventually make the 53 man roster.

What would your definition of an A be? Seven out of seven starters or something along those lines? I'm honestly curious.

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We will love TE Trautman. Love having interchangable C/Guards.

And love LB Braun if what I read him to be is true when he was being projected at #24 or so.

We've hit a grandslam, slamdunk, and whatever the equivalent in socceer!

Couldn't have drafted better!

And normally, I can. Just not since 2017.

So, sit back and enjoy. Nothing to complain about here.

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Except we like to trade away picks to move up. But, that's a given nowadays. And was required to get Trautman. Who I personally was dying for!

As for 7th round, I say let SP play. Let 'em in the game, coach.

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Giving up draft picks to make the right picks isn't bad. If you have faith in your talent scouting, there is nothing wrong with that approach. You really have two approaches.. take a wide number of selections and hope you hit on some... or have faith in your talent scouting and make those few important choices. Neither approach is either right or wrong... comes with both pros and cons. If you miss on those few selections, you've ****ed up your whole draft. If you hit, you win. Grading the draft right now is a waste of time.

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I believe that if you draft O-line early then your success rate goes up automatically. When we try plugging in mid round guys we keep missing but our success record under Ireland drafting the big uglies in the first round has really paid off. McCoy was a second rounder but he was our first pick in the draft. Remember the 7-9 seasons? When we gave Drew more time the Saints started going 13-3. You win in the trenches. Payton/Ireland has proven that you can get starting talent in the mid rounds for the skill positions. However, I certainly agree that we nailed this draft!

So, I respect your opinion but I like mine better. :banana:

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Wasn’t thrilled about trading the picks but after thinking about it I figure what else would we do with them. We have a pretty stacked roster and I think there’s a better chance at landing a FA that can make the roster than any of those late round picks.

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Wasn’t Evans a mid round pick? I remember a couple of those guys were.

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Colston was a 7th rounder. I'm not a fan of having fewer picks to give up on a guy that might not work out. Competition is a much better way to go, if the later round picks don't work out then they got beat out, if they do the better for the team and are cheaper.

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So was Brady but that was an anomaly. More often than not they are out of the NFL.
If we weren’t in a “win now” scenario I definitely would not be happy about it but considering the circumstances I’m ok with it.