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jeanpierre 05-23-2020 05:22 PM

PFF: Why Drew Brees is NOT Overpaid
 

The Dude 05-23-2020 05:45 PM

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Brees is now a mid tier Qb and is getting mid tier money. It’s a win win.

iceshack149 05-23-2020 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 889466)
Brees is now a mid tier Qb and is getting mid tier money. It’s a win win.

Drew Brees is hardly mid-tier. Even in his forties he's better than most QB's in the NFL.




2019 Total yards 2979 TD's 27 Int's 4 in 11 games played.
I'll take those type of numbers every year from any QB regardless of age.

jeanpierre 05-24-2020 07:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 889466)
Brees is now a mid tier Qb and is getting mid tier money. It’s a win win.

I'd agree Brees is mid-tier in the context compared to what he was five (5) years ago, but he's fallen back to the pack, but still at the top of it...

blackangold 05-24-2020 11:09 AM

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Brees has had a great stretch of years since MT came on the scene. I still will argue he is bad at throwing the long ball, particularly as the season goes on. Within 20 yds Brees is still the best in the league right now. Outside of 20 yds he is worse than average.

I think now we finally have the WRs that suit his style. Guys like Cooks and Ginn never helped Drew, they are long ball guys that need to run underneath passes. Thomas is a physical possession guy and Sanders is the same. Assuming his arm can hold up through the season it should be extremely productive.

vpheughan 05-24-2020 01:21 PM

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CAMP ARM :D

AsylumGuido 05-24-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 889487)
Brees has had a great stretch of years since MT came on the scene. I still will argue he is bad at throwing the long ball, particularly as the season goes on. Within 20 yds Brees is still the best in the league right now. Outside of 20 yds he is worse than average.

I think now we finally have the WRs that suit his style. Guys like Cooks and Ginn never helped Drew, they are long ball guys that need to run underneath passes. Thomas is a physical possession guy and Sanders is the same. Assuming his arm can hold up through the season it should be extremely productive.

FYI

The following shows that Drew Brees is still among the very best in the league at the long ball.

Who were the best quarterbacks throwing long passes in 2019?

The Precision Passers

Which quarterbacks are most accurate with their deep throws? The table below shows the players with the highest Catchable Percentage on passes that travel at least 20 yards down the field (minimum 30 attempts). This stat looks at the passes that should be caught by the receiver based on where the pass is placed. Keep track of the players on this list, and compare this list to the “gunslinger” table that follows.

Quarterback Catchable %
Jimmy Garoppolo 72%
Matt Ryan 67%
Gardner Minshew 60%
Drew Brees 60%
Daniel Jones 60%
Kirk Cousins 59%
Carson Wentz/Baker Mayfield 58%

This list shows how dominant Jimmy Garoppolo has been when throwing the deep ball, throwing an accurate pass 72% of the time. Compare that to Jameis Winston’s 54%, and you can see why Winston was prone to interceptions.

In terms of who is completing deep passes most often, Garoppolo leads the league with a 59% completion percentage (19-of-32). He’s followed by Gardner Minshew (22-of-45, 49%), Patrick Mahomes (29-of-62, 47%), Drew Brees (14-of-30, 47%) and Dak Prescott (33-of-74, 45%).

The Touchdown Machines

Touchdown percentage looks at the percentage of deep throws that result in a touchdown. The following list can help determine where negative regression is possible, as a high touchdown percentage is often unsustainable. Here is the table (minimum 30 attempts):

Quarterback TD%
Jimmy Garoppolo 22%
Patrick Mahomes 19%
Daniel Jones 17%
Kirk Cousins 14%
Drew Brees 13%
Lamar Jackson 13%
Dak Prescott 12%
Tom Brady 12%

neugey 05-24-2020 03:19 PM

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You also can't put a price tag on Brees' leadership and unquestioned status as the face of the franchise. He may lose some snaps to Taysom but Brees has shown it will not affect his commitment and desire to bring out the best version of everyone in the locker room.

Rugby Saint II 05-24-2020 03:37 PM

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He's worth a lot more than he's getting paid. 'Nuff said! :p

TheOak 05-25-2020 03:37 AM

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Drew's mental motor is what puts him in discussions involving the best that have ever played the game. He is the leader of that entire organization and the Saints are going to struggle to replace him after he is gone. Players have left and shared their displeasure with many aspects of the Saints organization, including Sean Payton.

I have never hears a coach present or past, team mate present or past, or any player that has set foot on the field with him speak of him with anything but respect and admiration. His mental motor, game acumen, integrity, and drive are beyond reproach.

Only the fans that obviously know best talk about him in a poor light..


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