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jeanpierre 05-24-2020 12:11 PM

Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 

TheOak 05-25-2020 04:07 AM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
The stat is incorrect and the article is meaningless. A RB career average is actually 2.57 years and the premise and entire article are meaningless because WR and CB are actuality less than three years as well. Hell the league average is only 3.3 years and that is only because kickers inflate the number by averaging 4.87 years.

The author is trying way too hard.

halloween 65 05-25-2020 05:31 AM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Kamara want be able to tote the load. Specialty role yes, 3 down back, no.

Rugby Saint II 05-25-2020 07:59 AM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Every time Payton force feeds the ball to Kamara he comes out limping. If we want Kamara to be an every down back then he won't last the season before landing on IR.

jeanpierre 05-25-2020 08:03 AM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 889506)
Every time Payton force feeds the ball to Kamara he comes out limping...

...and Sean drives the re-signing price up on a RB we will not be able to afford, keep other players...

vpheughan 05-25-2020 08:29 AM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 889508)
...and Sean drives the re-signing price up on a RB we will not be able to afford and keep other players...


LIKE...............MARK INGRAM?

Audiotom 05-25-2020 03:18 PM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Murray is very competent.
Went off on teams when Kamara wasn’t 100%
He also was starting to integrate well in the passing game.

Mix it up - don’t wear Alvin out

AK needs to play the limited role he did in the first season
1/2 punch

Sean needs to feed Murray

AK trying to go between the tackles when a good defense is shutting us in - no

Much more effective a little more sparingly and outside

ChrisXVI 05-25-2020 06:01 PM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
This is why I’m high on the Ty Montgomery signing. Having another RB who can run routes and be flexed out wide can keep Kamara fresh.

jeanpierre 05-25-2020 08:11 PM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 889523)
Murray is very competent.
Went off on teams when Kamara wasn’t 100%
He also was starting to integrate well in the passing game.

Mix it up - don’t wear Alvin out

AK needs to play the limited role he did in the first season
1/2 punch

Sean needs to feed Murray

AK trying to go between the tackles when a good defense is shutting us in - no

Much more effective a little more sparingly and outside

In the 2019-20 Divisional Playoff in Our Dome, Minnesota didn't have a counter-punch to Murray nor Taysom - none...

Yet, once again, as he can never be wrong after coaching one Superbowl Team with Brees, was Sean Payton showing us who was in charge...

Murray and Taysom weren't on the field to punch it in and put a Kirk Cousin's Minnesota squad away...

It was evident from his rookie season Kamara isn't a bell-cow running back, he's a change-of-pace 15-18 touches per game combo-pack RB...

But Sean Payton, like Jim Mora before him, will shoot himself in the foot just to show everyone else, who can see the obvious, is wrong and he's right...

K Major 05-25-2020 08:39 PM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 889525)
In the 2019-20 Divisional Playoff in Our Dome, Minnesota didn't have a counter-punch to Murray nor Taysom - none...

Yet, once again, as he can never be wrong after coaching one Superbowl Team with Brees, was Sean Payton showing us who was in charge...

Murray and Taysom weren't on the field to punch it in and put a Kirk Cousin's Minnesota squad away...

Hate to deter from the OP's topic of AK but I'm still trying to wrap my head around 7 carries all game for a down hill power back runner in Latavius ... against his former team with everything on the line. Absolutely criminal he wasn't more involved.

A more balanced rushing attack is needed and necessary for 2020.

jeanpierre 05-26-2020 07:17 AM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 889526)
Hate to deter from the OP's topic of AK but I'm still trying to wrap my head around 7 carries all game for a down hill power back runner in Latavius ... against his former team with everything on the line. Absolutely criminal he wasn't more involved.

A more balanced rushing attack is needed and necessary for 2020.

And there it is...

How many times were we burned by a former player? Nature seeks balance and serves up the opportunity, but Payton, just like Jim Mora, wants to show he's in charge and smartest, so bang away with Kamara?!?

After investing a first and second round pick (compounded by two more 2s with BountyGate), plus years of development, WHY let Ingram leave and bring in Murray if you're not going to trust Murray with the ball?!?

jeanpierre 05-26-2020 07:18 AM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 889524)
This is why I’m high on the Ty Montgomery signing. Having another RB who can run routes and be flexed out wide can keep Kamara fresh.

NOT Running Kamara inside consistently will keep Kamara fresh...

dizzle88 05-26-2020 09:22 AM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 889533)
And there it is...

How many times were we burned by a former player? Nature seeks balance and serves up the opportunity, but Payton, just like Jim Mora, wants to show he's in charge and smartest, so bang away with Kamara?!?

After investing a first and second round pick (compounded by two more 2s with BountyGate), plus years of development, WHY let Ingram leave and bring in Murray if you're not going to trust Murray with the ball?!?

Murray was running hard and had some nice carries.

Payton knows best though......lol

Rugby Saint II 05-26-2020 09:59 AM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Sean needs to self evaluate his problem with giving more touches to Murray. AK might not last the season with us running him consistently between the tackles. Murray deserves more touches and AK would have a longer shelf life. If we sign him to a long term contract and continue to overuse him like we do then we'll be paying a butt load of money to a player getting a check from his new team as well.

ChrisXVI 05-26-2020 10:26 AM

Re: Barry Hirstius: SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: Kamara’s Health and Durability Key to Saints Success
 
Gotta take the Reggie Bush approach to Kamara and have a Pierre Thomas/Mike Bell to handle the heavy lifting.


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