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Vrillon82 05-30-2020 05:18 PM

Winston could be successor to Brees
 
Thing about Winston is, look at the situations he was in under Koetter and Arians. Every QB has had problems under them, even Matt Ryan.

I believe their is also a stat going around where Matt Ryan’s has thrown more INTs under Koetter than Winston did in Tampa.

We all know the situation with QBs first year under Arians. I also believe with corrective eye surgery and getting his head right under Sean will see him become a dominant QB. I believe he never has had the chance to succeed due to lack of discipline and coaching.

Thoughts?

voodooido 05-30-2020 06:18 PM

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No

rezburna 05-30-2020 08:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 889769)
Thing about Winston is, look at the situations he was in under Koetter and Arians. Every QB has had problems under them, even Matt Ryan.

I believe their is also a stat going around where Matt Ryan’s has thrown more INTs under Koetter than Winston did in Tampa.

We all know the situation with QBs first year under Arians. I also believe with corrective eye surgery and getting his head right under Sean will see him become a dominant QB. I believe he never has had the chance to succeed due to lack of discipline and coaching.

Thoughts?

Agreed.

ChrisXVI 05-30-2020 08:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 889769)
Thing about Winston is, look at the situations he was in under Koetter and Arians. Every QB has had problems under them, even Matt Ryan.

I believe their is also a stat going around where Matt Ryan’s has thrown more INTs under Koetter than Winston did in Tampa.

We all know the situation with QBs first year under Arians. I also believe with corrective eye surgery and getting his head right under Sean will see him become a dominant QB. I believe he never has had the chance to succeed due to lack of discipline and coaching.

Thoughts?

Really nice and well-reasoned take on it. Unfortunately we’re not going to be able to see or gauge his development because it’ll all be in practice and the meeting rooms. If he blows Payton away and coach decides he’s the guy then I’m on board.

Thirty3 05-30-2020 11:26 PM

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ROFOL

RailBoss 05-30-2020 11:43 PM

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Re: Winston could be successor to Brees

Hard to wrap my brain around that at this point in time.
But.. This here is New Orleans, anything goes

The Dude 05-31-2020 01:08 AM

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If so great, but I doubt it.

nola_swammi 05-31-2020 02:06 AM

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No. But I am open minded if he prove himself

WW_Who_Dat 05-31-2020 07:18 AM

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I don’t think so ... but I’m a fan ... If the coaches think he is the best option for the team ... That what will happen.

SmashMouth 05-31-2020 11:55 AM

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At least he's got the W pregame speech down... W as in WhoDat!

Rugby Saint II 05-31-2020 12:37 PM

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You can't fix stupid! I'll never get that image of him licking his fingers in a pregame speech out of my mind and his team mates looked so confused. This is what I feel he has to offer.

He doesn't have the It factor....he has the S*it factor. :P

dizzle88 05-31-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 889786)
You can't fix stupid! I'll never get that image of him licking his fingers in a pregame speech out of my mind and his team mates looked so confused. This is what I feel he has to offer.

He doesn't have the It factor....he has the S*it factor. :P

Not to mention him instigating a fight which ended up getting Lattimore blindsided by their other POS player.

K Major 06-01-2020 08:18 AM

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"If you're a free-agent QB, it's not the harsh words that worry you, it's the silence". Sean Payton

WillMacKenzie 06-01-2020 09:20 AM

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My mom would’ve made me wash my mouth out with soap for saying that.

I just think it would’ve been better if he hadn’t been in our division, I could’ve fallen for the numbers and hype if I hadn’t seen him with my own eyes for so long.

JMO

ScottF 06-01-2020 11:37 AM

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Winston > Hill

rezburna 06-01-2020 11:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 889786)
You can't fix stupid! I'll never get that image of him licking his fingers in a pregame speech out of my mind and his team mates looked so confused. This is what I feel he has to offer.

He doesn't have the It factor....he has the S*it factor. :P

He’s far from stupid. His intelligence shouldn’t continue be insulted. Is he a poor decision maker? Undoubtedly. Is he dumb? **** no. His Wonderlic was right in line with Peyton Manning and he has EXCELLENT knowledge of the game. The guy is no dummy.

RailBoss 06-01-2020 11:44 PM

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Winston had an offer from the Steelers and he chose to come here.
When he walks out on the field in Black & Gold in whatever capacity he's now a Who Dat.
So between the corrective eye surgery working with SP and Drew it all starts a new chapter in the book of Winston.
Oh and if he wants to keep on with the finger licking maybe he should check in with KFC and do a commercial for those folks.

TheOak 06-02-2020 08:29 AM

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Winston was telling his team to eat a W which I find to be characteristically different than walking out and pulling a pornhub on your own finger.

Have any of you ever watch Drew? His OCD makes him lick his fingers like someone just stole his beignet and all he has left is the powdered sugar..

Audiotom 06-02-2020 11:17 AM

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I would love to see Sean and Drew allow Jameis to come in for blow outs in the 4th quarter - get some reps - other than that have Drew healthy and play all season.

Seeing Jameis take over without a hiccup in a year or two would be wonderful and take the sting out of the post Drew era.

Winston has never seen an offensive line as good as the Saints

That means a lot on the passing game

The Dude 06-02-2020 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 889787)
Not to mention him instigating a fight which ended up getting Lattimore blindsided by their other POS player.

Or slamming Jordan’s head to the ground and using his helmet to pick himself off the ground after getting sacked. He’s a POS dirty player.

K Major 06-02-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 889851)
Seeing Jameis take over without a hiccup in a year or two would be wonderful and take the sting out of the post Drew era.

Winston has never seen an offensive line as good as the Saints

That means a lot on the passing game

Kind of my angle too.

Here's a guy who has thrown over 5k yards with "issues", put him in the film room with Sean, Carmichael & #9 for a season. No doubt he'll improve at his craft. Even if he improves by say only 10%, you have a QB who could lead the league in TD's, passing yards and cut his int's in half (JW averaged 15 before the new Arians offense).

As we know the Saints are a complimentary team that plays complimentary football with accountability and a strong locker room culture.

I don't think Jameis is no where near Brees but I do strongly believe he's better than a lot of other NFL starting QB's around the league. It was no mystery Bruce Arian's reasoning is to sling (he was the QB coach in Indy when Manning threw 28 ints :rolleyes:) the football all around the yard. Sean P ... he'll take what the defense gives em (see 2 glove Teddy 2019) & more geared to not turning the ball over. That way of thinking equates to changing a QB's tendencies and habits.

As to Rez's point, check out some of those Bucs Hard Knocks re runs. Jameis is very bright and a student of the game.
I can't wait for these guys to get back at it this summer :bng:.

Audiotom 06-02-2020 08:45 PM

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Jameis has turned his life around also.

He is a Christian with a young family.

I really think he will thrive in New Orleans

skymike 06-03-2020 06:04 AM

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in a related story, I'll be taking over for Stevie Ray Vaughn.

WW_Who_Dat 06-03-2020 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 889892)
in a related story, I'll be taking over for Stevie Ray Vaughn.

Call me for your premier concert ... would not miss it!😎

Rugby Saint II 06-03-2020 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 889812)
He’s far from stupid. His intelligence shouldn’t continue be insulted. Is he a poor decision maker? Undoubtedly. Is he dumb? **** no. His Wonderlic was right in line with Peyton Manning and he has EXCELLENT knowledge of the game. The guy is no dummy.

I respect your opinion but my mental images of him in the past can't let me think of him here in the future. He may test well and is intelligent but I don't think that he's very smart.

AsylumGuido 06-03-2020 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 889911)
I respect your opinion but my mental images of him in the past can't let me think of him here in the future. He may test well and is intelligent but I don't think that he's very smart.

Those images are built entirely on what the media has decided to share and on how they chose to share it.

skymike 06-04-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 889914)
Those images are built entirely on what the media has decided to share and on how they chose to share it.

That pretty much applies to everything in the "News," including current events.

voodooido 06-06-2020 06:58 PM

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Steals crab legs, signs with the seafood capital of the world. well played JW, well played.


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