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How did Brees opinion go from being valid to invalid so quickly?

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Old 06-04-2020, 04:13 PM   #1
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How did Brees opinion go from being valid to invalid so quickly?

I feel like we are rapidly moving towards a world where if we don't think exactly the way we are taught to think, then we will be subjected to extreme criticism and judgement from the mob. Just a couple of years ago, Brees opinion was like a 50-50 opinion. Some people thought you should stand, some people thought the kneeling protests were good for civil rights. Now if you disagree with the flag kneeling protests it's a headliner on all news websites, your entire team criticizes you, past players you played with criticize you, and the whole world just jumps and pulverizes you into dust. I get that the George Floyd incident was horrible, I just don't see how that changes the entire world's opinion on something in the blink of an eye.

Nah I don't think people's opinions are actually changing, I think people are becoming more afraid to speak their minds. We are actually moving away from solving this issue, regardless of what these celebtards think. The only way you unify is to actually voice your opinions and actually have discussions between opposing sides. If they think they are going to crush police brutality through violence and trying to shut people up with differing opinions they are completely out of touch with how reality works and this shows they don't even understand the issue they are dealing with.
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Re: How did Brees opinion go from being valid to invalid so quickly?

It was never invalid to a whole lot of us.
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Old 06-04-2020, 04:28 PM   #3
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It was never invalid to a whole lot of us.
Yes I know, but it's like the narrative has changed publicly. It's like they slipped it by everyone or something without them realizing it. The media is constantly doing **** like that. They will gradually alter how they present things, until they get to the point where their opinion is the actual new headline. That's what has happened here. What he said a few years back is being repeated, but now it is unacceptable. People trying to link it to George Floyd or whatever or misleading what Brees said, he was being asked directly about Kaepernick's protests. They twisted everything he said to match their narrative.
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Old 06-04-2020, 04:36 PM   #4
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Re: How did Brees opinion go from being valid to invalid so quickly?

This world is divided and that's something that will never change.

I'd hate to feel that any of my family or friends feel unsafe in their day to day lives, I can't imagine living with that on your mind.

Unfortunately in our world, every race, every group, every religion has their share of idiots and genuinely nice people.

I cant comment much on the US because I'm UK raised. I just hate that people throw the race card around so much now. Did Brees miss the point of the movement, 100%. Were his words meant with any racist or malicious intent, definitely not.

Let's not get sucked into a game where we begin to argue. I love chatting on this board. I'm a geeky white UK based IT technician, I don't make friends or judge people based on race, I make friends on if I can stand to be around your personality for longer than 5 minutes! Lol

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I feel like we are rapidly moving towards a world where if we don't think exactly the way we are taught to think, then we will be subjected to extreme criticism and judgement from the mob. Just a couple of years ago, Brees opinion was like a 50-50 opinion. Some people thought you should stand, some people thought the kneeling protests were good for civil rights. Now if you disagree with the flag kneeling protests it's a headliner on all news websites, your entire team criticizes you, past players you played with criticize you, and the whole world just jumps and pulverizes you into dust. I get that the George Floyd incident was horrible, I just don't see how that changes the entire world's opinion on something in the blink of an eye.

Nah I don't think people's opinions are actually changing, I think people are becoming more afraid to speak their minds. We are actually moving away from solving this issue, regardless of what this celebtards think. The only way you unify is to actually voice your opinions and actually have discussions between opposing sides. If they think they are going to crush police brutality through violence and trying to shut people up with differing opinions they are completely out of touch with how reality works and this shows they don't even understand the issue they are dealing with.
Who exactly is "they"? Just wondering.
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Who exactly is "they"? Just wondering.
The people that think they are going to crush police brutality, stop racism, and create a happy communist utopian society where everyone is equal and happy and has rainbow farts. This group is mainly being led by the media and the celebtards. You don't solve internal conflict by creating more internal conflict. You solve conflict by bringing people together, discussing things, and creating compromise or changing opinions. You don't solve things by throwing bricks through people's windows.
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
This world is divided and that's something that will never change.

I'd hate to feel that any of my family or friends feel unsafe in their day to day lives, I can't imagine living with that on your mind.

Unfortunately in our world, every race, every group, every religion has their share of idiots and genuinely nice people.

I cant comment much on the US because I'm UK raised. I just hate that people throw the race card around so much now. Did Brees miss the point of the movement, 100%. Were his words meant with any racist or malicious intent, definitely not.

Let's not get sucked into a game where we begin to argue. I love chatting on this board. I'm a geeky white UK based IT technician, I don't make friends or judge people based on race, I make friends on if I can stand to be around your personality for longer than 5 minutes! Lol

Love this board! Love you all. Stay safe
I agree with everything you said. We actually have quite a bit in common. I spent 25 years or so as a somewhat less than geeky white US based IT analyst, among a couple of other hats required. I have never seen race as a barrier to me for friendship. To be truly brutally honest, I cried uncontrollably when a black friend, who happened to be gay, was let go from a job we shared prior to going into the IT business ... the auto sales business. I still miss that man to this day and have tried to find him after he disappeared on several times.

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Originally Posted by hitta View Post
The people that think they are going to crush police brutality, stop racism, and create a happy communist utopian society where everyone is equal and happy and has rainbow farts. This group is mainly being led by the media and the celebtards. You don't solve internal conflict by creating more internal conflict. You solve conflict by bringing people together, discussing things, and creating compromise or changing opinions. You don't solve things by throwing bricks through people's windows.
I think you may be melding more than one group into one. There are multiple factors involved. The well meaning, the self promoting, and the self fulfilling. "They" are getting lumped together unfairly.
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I feel like we are rapidly moving towards a world where if we don't think exactly the way we are taught to think, then we will be subjected to extreme criticism and judgement from the mob. Just a couple of years ago, Brees opinion was like a 50-50 opinion. Some people thought you should stand, some people thought the kneeling protests were good for civil rights. Now if you disagree with the flag kneeling protests it's a headliner on all news websites, your entire team criticizes you, past players you played with criticize you, and the whole world just jumps and pulverizes you into dust. I get that the George Floyd incident was horrible, I just don't see how that changes the entire world's opinion on something in the blink of an eye.

Nah I don't think people's opinions are actually changing, I think people are becoming more afraid to speak their minds. We are actually moving away from solving this issue, regardless of what these celebtards think. The only way you unify is to actually voice your opinions and actually have discussions between opposing sides. If they think they are going to crush police brutality through violence and trying to shut people up with differing opinions they are completely out of touch with how reality works and this shows they don't even understand the issue they are dealing with.
I have teenage children so I have every social media platform available. Twitter is unique and its design of anonymity combined with limited keystroke makes for a virtual piranha like environment where very few people think, they just spew outrageous thoughts hoping to gain followers. I know that sounds contradictory but you can tweet 20 thoughts in a relatively short amount of time without ever thinking about what you are actually saying.

I literally had someone tell me that because what i was saying didn't agree with him, I must be Alt-right.
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