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jeanpierre 06-25-2020 11:01 AM

Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 

SaintFanInATLHELL 06-25-2020 11:41 AM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
Dennis Allen? Dennis Allen is the reason for the postseason busts 3 years in a row. Why would anyone think that Allen would be a good replacement choice?

What about Pete Carmichael? He's as much an architect of the current Saints offense as Payton and Brees.

SFIAH

K Major 06-25-2020 11:59 AM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 891224)
Dennis Allen? Dennis Allen is the reason for the postseason busts 3 years in a row. Why would anyone think that Allen would be a good replacement choice?


SFIAH

^^^ This ^^^ x 100.

AsylumGuido 06-25-2020 01:31 PM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
As long as Gayle Benson owns the team Sean Payton is going no where until he makes the call. There isn't a cooler seat in the league, like it or not. Belichick would be extremely close. Payton and Loomis are tied at the hips and Benson looks upon them both as her sons. Once again, like it or not.

AsylumGuido 06-25-2020 01:32 PM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 891224)
Dennis Allen? Dennis Allen is the reason for the postseason busts 3 years in a row. Why would anyone think that Allen would be a good replacement choice?

What about Pete Carmichael? He's as much an architect of the current Saints offense as Payton and Brees.

SFIAH

Whenever Payton decides to call it a career Carmichael would be a logical successor.

SmashMouth 06-25-2020 07:46 PM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
Their DL coach is an up and comer...

stickman 06-25-2020 08:30 PM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
As for the postseason, I understand a loss is a loss, but the Saints were a missed PI call from going to the Superbowl a couple of years ago, lost on a "Miracle" play just before that. Don't think Payton is the problem. I'm not tired of winning yet.

Cruize 06-26-2020 09:23 AM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
Dan Campbell.

rezburna 06-26-2020 09:55 AM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
Eric Bieniemy
Lincoln Riley
Dan Campbell

K Major 06-26-2020 10:04 AM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 891303)
Eric Bieniemy
Lincoln Riley
Dan Campbell

IMO Eric should already be a Head Coach in this league. He's ready.

And was ready last season too.

SmashMouth 06-26-2020 10:59 AM

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Eric Bieniemy
A NOLA boy who made it out of Louisiana. Good for him.

Is he ready for a HC job. Maybe... maybe not. It's a different animal managing vs coaching.

Lincoln Riley - doubt he turns to the pro game. Unless he gets tired of getting beat by SEC teams.

Dan Campbell needs to go to a coordinator position first. He seems smart.

K Major 06-26-2020 11:32 AM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 891312)
A NOLA boy who made it out of Louisiana. Good for him.

Is he ready for a HC job. Maybe... maybe not. It's a different animal managing vs coaching.

He can be no worse than Freddie Kitchens, Adam Gase or Anthony Lynn. The new Browns HC is 38 and was a OC/RB coach before becoming a HC.

Eric has been in the league twice as long with skins on the wall. He's more than ready. Andy Reid coaching tree is impressive so it's just a matter of time for EB.

Rugby Saint II 06-27-2020 12:55 PM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
The problem is not Payton. It's his loyalty to his cronies. It took forever to clean house and then he brought DA back because he has a comfort level with him. It's certainly not because Allen is a top notch D-coordinator.:dunce:

AsylumGuido 06-27-2020 01:15 PM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 891390)
The problem is not Payton. It's his loyalty to his cronies. It took forever to clean house and then he brought DA back because he has a comfort level with him. It's certainly not because Allen is a top notch D-coordinator.:dunce:

There's really nothing major wrong with the Saints defense that can be helped. You cannot avoid injuries. You cannot cover in the downfield defensive backfield without pressure upfront and pressure up front requires healthy starters mostly.

Rugby Saint II 06-27-2020 01:58 PM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 891393)
There's really nothing major wrong with the Saints defense that can be helped. You cannot avoid injuries. You cannot cover in the downfield defensive backfield without pressure upfront and pressure up front requires healthy starters mostly.

If the team is that loaded blame it on coaching. You can't fix stupid but you can coach situational awareness. Our secondary doesn't really have the ability to close because apparently they aren't taught too. Not only that but DA changes up what's been working and apparently only confuses the defense in critical moments. Three in three years causing an early exit from the playoffs.

I feel comfortable blaming Dennis Allen. Besides I've always thought he looked kinda' wormy.

He looks more like a volleyball coach.

The Dude 06-28-2020 02:07 PM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 891275)
As for the postseason, I understand a loss is a loss, but the Saints were a missed PI call from going to the Superbowl a couple of years ago, lost on a "Miracle" play just before that. Don't think Payton is the problem. I'm not tired of winning yet.

We lost to the Vikings on a “miracle” play. We still would have had to beat the Eagles and nobody was going to beat the Eagles that year. It was just their year.
Same with 2011. Everyone acts like if we had beat SF we would have automatically made it to the SB. We would have still had to beat NY and Nobody was beating the Giants that year.

AsylumGuido 06-28-2020 02:51 PM

Re: Saints: 3 names who could replace Sean Payton in the event of another postseason collapse
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 891452)
We lost to the Vikings on a “miracle” play. We still would have had to beat the Eagles and nobody was going to beat the Eagles that year. It was just their year.
Same with 2011. Everyone acts like if we had beat SF we would have automatically made it to the SB. We would have still had to beat NY and Nobody was beating the Giants that year.

How do you know no one was beating the Eagles or the Giants? You don't know until and unless the game is actually played. Nobody was beating the Colts in the 2009 post-season either until we played them.


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