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SmashMouth 07-21-2020 09:07 PM

NFL preseason will be canceled
 
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The NFL Players Association has agreed to the league's plan to drop all preseason games for the 2020 season, a person familiar with the decision told The Associated Press.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the offer had not been made public.

The union also agreed to a 80-player roster limit for training camp, instead of the usual 90.

The players’ union plan came during a conference call on Tuesday.

The agreement between the union and the league came a day after league made a proposal on not playing any preseason games because of the coronavirus pandemic.

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The players’ association originally had sought no preseason games and the league had reduced the exhibition schedule to two games. But on Monday evening, the NFL said it would eliminate those preseason contests and also would offer players 18 days for acclimation, up from seven days.

Also on Monday, the league said players will be tested daily for the coronavirus for at least the first two weeks of training camp, per the league’s new testing protocols.

Rookies have started reporting this week and all players are expected to report next week.

jeanpierre 07-22-2020 05:47 AM

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Wow, only 80. Starting to doubt will see a complete regular season now...

AsylumGuido 07-22-2020 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 892746)
Wow, only 80. Starting to doubt will see a complete regular season now...

I don't see your correlation here, JP. Reducing the roster size has nothing to do with chances of having the complete regular season. Ever since the player's association threw out the demand for no playoff games I was hearing talk about not needing a full 90 player roster. The bottom rung of bodies are only there to field a team for the preseason games while resting banged up players and the 50 or so players with virtual locks on the roster. The point was why have players that are not needed at all increasing any risk, however small it may be.

AsylumGuido 07-22-2020 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 892731)
The NFL Players Association has agreed to the league's plan to drop all preseason games for the 2020 season, a person familiar with the decision told The Associated Press.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the offer had not been made public.

The union also agreed to a 80-player roster limit for training camp, instead of the usual 90.

The players’ union plan came during a conference call on Tuesday.

The agreement between the union and the league came a day after league made a proposal on not playing any preseason games because of the coronavirus pandemic.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.town...ize=1200%2C773

The players’ association originally had sought no preseason games and the league had reduced the exhibition schedule to two games. But on Monday evening, the NFL said it would eliminate those preseason contests and also would offer players 18 days for acclimation, up from seven days.

Also on Monday, the league said players will be tested daily for the coronavirus for at least the first two weeks of training camp, per the league’s new testing protocols.

Rookies have started reporting this week and all players are expected to report next week.

Notice how the Associated Press spins this announcement? They try to put a negative spin on it in the first sentence by implying that the league wanted to eliminate the remaining preseason games and not the players. Then later they reverse that hidden near the end. Your average reader only reads the headline or the first paragraph of most articles. That's why, as a writer, you want to give the whole point of the article in that first paragraph and then expound.

AsylumGuido 07-22-2020 06:44 AM

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Here is an ESPN article with FAR more detail to the agreement including more detail on the reasoning for reducing the roster.

Sources: NFL proposes 80-man training camp rosters; agreement reached on scrapping 2020 preseason

If and when NFL training camps open next week, as currently scheduled, teams' rosters will include a maximum of 80 players, as opposed to the usual 90, in an effort to help enforce social distancing measures in team facilities. This is according to sources who were on an NFLPA players call Tuesday night discussing details of the league's latest proposal on coronavirus protocols.

Sources also said the NFL and the union officially agreed Tuesday to the league's plan to drop all preseason games for the 2020 season. The agreement came a day after the league offered to the union to play no preseason games this summer because of the coronavirus pandemic.

Thus, with Tuesday's developments, the league and the players' union are inching closer to an agreement on rules that will govern training camp and the season under these difficult circumstances. Weeks of negotiations seem to be coming to a head, as sources who were on the players' call Tuesday night said there has been agreement on several issues but work remains to be done on others.

The NFL and the NFLPA announced Monday that they had agreed on COVID-19 testing protocols. Players and team personnel will be tested every day for the first two weeks of training camp, then every other day, as long as their team's positive test rate is and remains under 5%. Additionally, sources said, the league and the union have agreed to the 80-player roster limit for training camp.

In a typical year, many teams have to add stalls to their usual locker rooms to accommodate 90-man camp rosters. But this year, with rules mandating 6 feet of space between lockers, teams have had to get creative in terms of locating new space for auxiliary locker rooms. Some teams are using rooms that otherwise would be vacant, such as media work rooms, and some teams are importing trailers and finding other means of adding space. The hope is that reducing rosters to 80 will help limit the extent to which teams have to create that extra space.

You can read the rest here ...

Beastmode 07-22-2020 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 892749)
Notice how the Associated Press spins this announcement? They try to put a negative spin on it in the first sentence by implying that the league wanted to eliminate the remaining preseason games and not the players. Then later they reverse that hidden near the end. Your average reader only reads the headline or the first paragraph of most articles. That's why, as a writer, you want to give the whole point of the article in that first paragraph and then expound.


Years ago, that would be put in the first lines. Every article today takes the headline and repeats it again in the first line to reinforce the headline like cured concrete.

The last paragraph contradicts both.

AsylumGuido 07-22-2020 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 892753)
Years ago, that would be put in the first lines. Every article today takes the headline and repeats it again in the first line to reinforce the headline like cured concrete.

The last paragraph contradicts both.

Yup. The AP has consistently been moving in this direction. Both my old editor and my wife's 1st cousin are AP writers so I am unbiased.

Halo 07-22-2020 08:25 AM

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Nobody knows how to write anymore, especially journalists. I'm not even that old and most journalists today would have flunked out of College English.

SmashMouth 07-22-2020 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 892759)
Nobody knows how to write anymore, especially journalists. I'm not even that old and most journalists today would have flunked out of College English.

Engrish... Dey don't speak/write no Engrish?

Rugby Saint II 07-22-2020 11:21 AM

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Pretty soon we won't need to speak English as well. Better brush up on your Spanish. Adios me amigos. :p

All kidding aside, I read a typo or improper grammar in almost every article that I read. What happened to proof readers or editors? I guess they are too costly to keep around.

WillMacKenzie 07-23-2020 01:37 PM

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Cancel cancel cancel cancel. Are we going to have to create another ribbon or bumper sticker, "f*** cancel."

One of the other fellas posted elsewhere about Rutgers "deemphasizing" standard grammar because of its oppressive, racist, and micro-aggressive nature.

skymike 07-23-2020 10:08 PM

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This is like a funeral to me. Reminiscing.

Back when I used to watch Football, the rest of you *****ed about preseason...."oh. woe is me... why do we have to have preseason games?"

Meanwhile, on my happy island, I was ELATED every last week of July.
counting down the days till the First Meaningless Game of the season.
If they put on their shiny helmets, then it counts as FOOTBALL, and I loved
it. I listened to every play on radio, as if if was a Super Bowl. It didnt
matter, by the 3rd quarter that 3/4ths of the names being called wouldnt
be there opening day. Preseason is where we discovered Pierre Thomas
awesomeness. I LOVE preseason football. If you lose. it doesnt matter.
If you win. You're excited. You really cant lose in Preseason.

I have so many memories of driving down a highway, (I always seemed to be
on the road, usually coming home from vacation up North) listening to a static'y signal, Jim Henderson's voice calling each play, and a color commentor adding his 2 cents, as if this game was a national event. I LOVED the sound of it. Preseason, regular season, Tony Cachere's Cajun Season. I dont care.

If I was Grand Dictator of Football, all preseason games would be in 2nd Tier Cities, and College towns. One, this would create the "Barnstorming" effect, and make rabid fans of those, otherwise on the fringe, in smaller cities, otherwise in your territory. I would Play the Saints in Shreveport and Jackson, Ms. Occasionally shifting to Alabama, somewhere, and Lake Charles. I'll never forget when the Saints came to Shreveport. A "meaningless" preseason game became a 3 tv station Prime Time event, complete with carnival, and super bowl esque hype. Thats what happens.

Good memories.

SmashMouth 07-24-2020 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 892897)
This is like a funeral to me. Reminiscing.

Back when I used to watch Football, the rest of you *****ed about preseason...."oh. woe is me... why do we have to have preseason games?"

Meanwhile, on my happy island, I was ELATED every last week of July.
counting down the days till the First Meaningless Game of the season.
If they put on their shiny helmets, then it counts as FOOTBALL, and I loved
it. I listened to every play on radio, as if if was a Super Bowl. It didnt
matter, by the 3rd quarter that 3/4ths of the names being called wouldnt
be there opening day. Preseason is where we discovered Pierre Thomas
awesomeness. I LOVE preseason football. If you lose. it doesnt matter.
If you win. You're excited. You really cant lose in Preseason.

I have so many memories of driving down a highway, (I always seemed to be
on the road, usually coming home from vacation up North) listening to a static'y signal, Jim Henderson's voice calling each play, and a color commentor adding his 2 cents, as if this game was a national event. I LOVED the sound of it. Preseason, regular season, Tony Cachere's Cajun Season. I dont care.

If I was Grand Dictator of Football, all preseason games would be in 2nd Tier Cities, and College towns. One, this would create the "Barnstorming" effect, and make rabid fans of those, otherwise on the fringe, in smaller cities, otherwise in your territory. I would Play the Saints in Shreveport and Jackson, Ms. Occasionally shifting to Alabama, somewhere, and Lake Charles. I'll never forget when the Saints came to Shreveport. A "meaningless" preseason game became a 3 tv station Prime Time event, complete with carnival, and super bowl esque hype. Thats what happens.

Good memories.

We hereby make you the new commissioner of the NFL . :bng:

Rugby Saint II 07-27-2020 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 892902)
We hereby make you the new commissioner of the NFL . :bng:

He's got my vote.;)

OldMaid 07-27-2020 09:24 PM

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:-( No need for NFL and Player’s Union to keep back and forth.(:deadhorse2: I guess it is over.

The Dude 07-27-2020 10:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 892897)
This is like a funeral to me. Reminiscing.

Back when I used to watch Football, the rest of you *****ed about preseason...."oh. woe is me... why do we have to have preseason games?"

Meanwhile, on my happy island, I was ELATED every last week of July.
counting down the days till the First Meaningless Game of the season.
If they put on their shiny helmets, then it counts as FOOTBALL, and I loved
it. I listened to every play on radio, as if if was a Super Bowl. It didnt
matter, by the 3rd quarter that 3/4ths of the names being called wouldnt
be there opening day. Preseason is where we discovered Pierre Thomas
awesomeness. I LOVE preseason football. If you lose. it doesnt matter.
If you win. You're excited. You really cant lose in Preseason.

I have so many memories of driving down a highway, (I always seemed to be
on the road, usually coming home from vacation up North) listening to a static'y signal, Jim Henderson's voice calling each play, and a color commentor adding his 2 cents, as if this game was a national event. I LOVED the sound of it. Preseason, regular season, Tony Cachere's Cajun Season. I dont care.

If I was Grand Dictator of Football, all preseason games would be in 2nd Tier Cities, and College towns. One, this would create the "Barnstorming" effect, and make rabid fans of those, otherwise on the fringe, in smaller cities, otherwise in your territory. I would Play the Saints in Shreveport and Jackson, Ms. Occasionally shifting to Alabama, somewhere, and Lake Charles. I'll never forget when the Saints came to Shreveport. A "meaningless" preseason game became a 3 tv station Prime Time event, complete with carnival, and super bowl esque hype. Thats what happens.

Good memories.

Camp/Preseason might be my favorite part of the season. I like watchIng/hearing about the young guys and free agents battling for a roster spot. Makes the remainder of the long ass summer seem shorter too.

OldMaid 07-28-2020 04:33 PM

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Preseason serves a big purpose.
So many players get traded and better for them. Better to be traded than cut.. So many end up on active roster after proving themselves and getting out there in a game on the field under the lights with media and fans. Training camps and a scrimmage, etc are some of the things. The proof that matters is on the field.

Rugby Saint II 07-28-2020 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 893178)
Preseason serves a big purpose.
So many players get traded and better for them. Better to be traded than cut.. So many end up on active roster after proving themselves and getting out there in a game on the field under the lights with media and fans. Training camps and a scrimmage, etc are some of the things. The proof that matters is on the field.

There are going to be a lot of talented football players sitting at home this year while home grown talent gets the nod. Sad, but true.

AsylumGuido 07-29-2020 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 893186)
There are going to be a lot of talented football players sitting at home this year while home grown talent gets the nod. Sad, but true.

No sadder than many other industries around the world. As a performer my son has only been able to do shows a few times over the past five months. He usually does seven or more a week.

skymike 07-30-2020 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 893205)
No sadder than many other industries around the world. As a performer my son has only been able to do shows a few times over the past five months. He usually does seven or more a week.

This stupid HOAX is killing us all.

skymike 09-02-2020 11:24 PM

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Wow, by now we would have met our newest phenom (Pierre Thomas) guy,
and we'd be talking about some roster moves, and our Game 1 opponent, and I, personally, would be dancing around with visions of Lombardi trophy's and big loud games in the Dome, and party's everywhere, and walking around the Quarter, and Poydras, and my usual touristy stuff, as I meander thru Louisiana, before finding a nice bar in the Quarter or Garden District. Or if I'm single, busking with my git-tar by the River and making some pizza/ beer money, being the homeless looking idiot with a git-tar, and charming tourists, who have no idea I'm really a season ticket holder, who's staying in the Omni Royal.
-- Days past. good memories. the only thing I miss is all of you.


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