Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion

ChrisXVI · 09-02-2020, 01:41 PM

Anybody concerned that Kamara apparently needed an epidural?

AsylumGuido · 09-02-2020, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Anybody concerned that Kamara apparently needed an epidural?

Not really. As verified by rezburna that procedure, among others, are very common for athletes. I believe some people confuse a common steroid epidural with an epidural anaesthesia. The former is what Kamara had and is to combat inflammation. The second is what can be given before surgery or childbirth to completely mask pain. I know people that have had one for an acute condition and never needed another. Myself, I have had close to twenty of them and they work quite well for my needs. But I have a chronic cervical condition.

Budsdrinker · 09-03-2020, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Not really. As verified by rezburna that procedure, among others, are very common for athletes. I believe some people confuse a common steroid epidural with an epidural anaesthesia. The former is what Kamara had and is to combat inflammation. The second is what can be given before surgery or childbirth to completely mask pain. I know people that have had one for an acute condition and never needed another. Myself, I have had close to twenty of them and they work quite well for my needs. But I have a chronic cervical condition.

Well, according to Dr. Chao the profootball doc. If it was an epidural there should be a concern. Here's his tweet on it.

Not sure what to believe.
Epidural/SI joint/stomach bug/contract?
However, epidural is a significant concern.
Sacroiliac (SI) joint injection is completely different and not nearly as worrisome.

AsylumGuido · 09-03-2020, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Well, according to Dr. Chao the profootball doc. If it was an epidural there should be a concern. Here's his tweet on it.

Not sure what to believe.
Epidural/SI joint/stomach bug/contract?
However, epidural is a significant concern.
Sacroiliac (SI) joint injection is completely different and not nearly as worrisome.

You can worry about what you wish, I suppose. I just know that I can function quite well without them and I only get them because they are very simple and effective for minor acute pain control. Works quicker and lasts longer than aspirin or Aleve. Now, I would be more concerned if it was for something along the lines of an RFA (Radio Frequency Ablation). I get those twice a year in the facet joints and they relieve chronic pain caused by arthritis or bone spurs.

gosaints1 · 09-02-2020, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Anybody concerned that Kamara apparently needed an epidural?

Yes, regardless of commonality in any industry, he wasn’t bored and just decided to have this procedure. There is a reason. Could be nothing, could be something..., but he didn’t just say: “hey let’s go get some Ben & Jerry’s and on the way let’s stop in and see what the diddly doo is on these injections.”.

halloween 65 · 09-02-2020, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Yes, regardless of commonality in any industry, he wasn’t bored and just decided to have this procedure. There is a reason. Could be nothing, could be something..., but he didn’t just say: “hey let’s go get some Ben & Jerry’s and on the way let’s stop in and see what the diddly doo is on these injections.”.

I like Ben & Jerry's. Cherry Garcia is great.

gosaints1 · 09-02-2020, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I like Ben & Jerry's. Cherry Garcia is great.

lol, fair enuf, and yes Cherry Garcia is a true classic. Salted Caramel Blondie is my goto, but I’m not much of a sweets person, at all.

AsylumGuido · 09-02-2020, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

lol, fair enuf, and yes Cherry Garcia is a true classic. Salted Caramel Blondie is my goto, but I’m not much of a sweets person, at all.

Actually, stopping off at Ben and Jerry's is a decent analogy, gosaints1. About a month ago I asked my doctor during my latest follow-up for an ESI to help with some headaches I knew were coming from my stenosis and I was in the next morning at 7:30 and on with my daily routine an hour later. Most of the time is spent waiting your turn. He probably does a dozen or more an hour.

AsylumGuido · 09-02-2020, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Yes, regardless of commonality in any industry, he wasn’t bored and just decided to have this procedure. There is a reason. Could be nothing, could be something..., but he didn’t just say: “hey let’s go get some Ben & Jerry’s and on the way let’s stop in and see what the diddly doo is on these injections.”.

My guess would be the most common use among athletes ... disc herniation. It can cause pain, but isn't usually debilitating. Many people have it for periods of time thinking they've pulled a muscle or something. They heal easily with the help of inflammatory medications like NSAIDS or steroids. An epidural simply pinpoints the medication rather than a general oral delivery. They are extremely minor procedures and literally take less than two minutes. Like I said, I've had around twenty of them myself. I'd be surprised if a decent percentage of the entire roster doesn't have at least one before or during the season.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Anybody concerned that Kamara apparently needed an epidural? Not really. As verified by rezburna that procedure, among others, are very common for athletes. I believe some people confuse a common steroid epidural with an epidural anaesthesia. The former is what Kamara had and is to combat inflammation. The second is what can be given before surgery or childbirth to completely mask pain. I know people that have had one for an acute condition and never needed another. Myself, I have had close to twenty of them and they work quite well for my needs. But I have a chronic cervical condition.

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Not really. As verified by rezburna that procedure, among others, are very common for athletes. I believe some people confuse a common steroid epidural with an epidural anaesthesia. The former is what Kamara had and is to combat inflammation. The second is what can be given before surgery or childbirth to completely mask pain. I know people that have had one for an acute condition and never needed another. Myself, I have had close to twenty of them and they work quite well for my needs. But I have a chronic cervical condition. Well, according to Dr. Chao the profootball doc. If it was an epidural there should be a concern. Here's his tweet on it. Not sure what to believe. Epidural/SI joint/stomach bug/contract? However, epidural is a significant concern. Sacroiliac (SI) joint injection is completely different and not nearly as worrisome. gosaints1 likes this.

09-03-2020, 11:37 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Well, according to Dr. Chao the profootball doc. If it was an epidural there should be a concern. Here's his tweet on it. Not sure what to believe. Epidural/SI joint/stomach bug/contract? However, epidural is a significant concern. Sacroiliac (SI) joint injection is completely different and not nearly as worrisome. You can worry about what you wish, I suppose. I just know that I can function quite well without them and I only get them because they are very simple and effective for minor acute pain control. Works quicker and lasts longer than aspirin or Aleve. Now, I would be more concerned if it was for something along the lines of an RFA (Radio Frequency Ablation). I get those twice a year in the facet joints and they relieve chronic pain caused by arthritis or bone spurs.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Anybody concerned that Kamara apparently needed an epidural? Yes, regardless of commonality in any industry, he wasn’t bored and just decided to have this procedure. There is a reason. Could be nothing, could be something..., but he didn’t just say: “hey let’s go get some Ben & Jerry’s and on the way let’s stop in and see what the diddly doo is on these injections.”. halloween 65 likes this.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Originally Posted by gosaints1 Yes, regardless of commonality in any industry, he wasn’t bored and just decided to have this procedure. There is a reason. Could be nothing, could be something..., but he didn’t just say: “hey let’s go get some Ben & Jerry’s and on the way let’s stop in and see what the diddly doo is on these injections.”. I like Ben & Jerry's. Cherry Garcia is great. gosaints1 likes this.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Originally Posted by halloween 65 I like Ben & Jerry's. Cherry Garcia is great. lol, fair enuf, and yes Cherry Garcia is a true classic. Salted Caramel Blondie is my goto, but I’m not much of a sweets person, at all.
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09-02-2020, 03:05 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Fox8NewOrleans \| Report: Saints open to trading Alvin Kamara Originally Posted by gosaints1 lol, fair enuf, and yes Cherry Garcia is a true classic. Salted Caramel Blondie is my goto, but I’m not much of a sweets person, at all. Actually, stopping off at Ben and Jerry's is a decent analogy, gosaints1. About a month ago I asked my doctor during my latest follow-up for an ESI to help with some headaches I knew were coming from my stenosis and I was in the next morning at 7:30 and on with my daily routine an hour later. Most of the time is spent waiting your turn. He probably does a dozen or more an hour.

09-02-2020, 02:45 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	re: Alvin Kamara Saints Contract Discussion Originally Posted by gosaints1 Yes, regardless of commonality in any industry, he wasn’t bored and just decided to have this procedure. There is a reason. Could be nothing, could be something..., but he didn’t just say: “hey let’s go get some Ben & Jerry’s and on the way let’s stop in and see what the diddly doo is on these injections.”. My guess would be the most common use among athletes ... disc herniation. It can cause pain, but isn't usually debilitating. Many people have it for periods of time thinking they've pulled a muscle or something. They heal easily with the help of inflammatory medications like NSAIDS or steroids. An epidural simply pinpoints the medication rather than a general oral delivery. They are extremely minor procedures and literally take less than two minutes. Like I said, I've had around twenty of them myself. I'd be surprised if a decent percentage of the entire roster doesn't have at least one before or during the season.
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