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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Never understood the Jenkins signing outside of being a vocal leader he is past his prime. Waller dominated the whole secondary. No adjustment was made. Why not bracket? Was the focus on Ruggs? Drewís arm is toast. Thatís evident by ...

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Old 09-22-2020, 12:10 AM   #1
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Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew

Never understood the Jenkins signing outside of being a vocal leader he is past his prime. Waller dominated the whole secondary. No adjustment was made. Why not bracket? Was the focus on Ruggs?

Drewís arm is toast. Thatís evident by the inaccuracy and lack of deep balls. The int was embarrassing. I think we still win the South but major changes have to occur with our quarterback play and secondary if we want to advance in the playoffs. Canít dink and dunk to a super bowl victory.

Coach loves wasting timeouts on challenges he has no chance of winning. Itís mind boggling every year.
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Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew

Saints have over 200 yards in penalties over the last two weeks.

I know some were ticky tacky however it's still a problem.
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Saints have over 200 yards in penalties over the last two weeks.

I know some were ticky tacky however it's still a problem.
Seems the secondary is good for at least 3 PIís a game
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Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew

It's embarrassing to basically get beat by a single player in a team sport other than basketball. Waller is quite good, but we didn't need to make him look like the Jerry Rice of tight ends.
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It's embarrassing to basically get beat by a single player in a team sport other than basketball. Waller is quite good, but we didn't need to make him look like the Jerry Rice of tight ends.
Did you see any adjustments from DENNIS ALLEN second half?

I sure didn't.
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Did you see any adjustments from DENNIS ALLEN second half?

I sure didn't.
Thatís the problem. The only adjustment was who would guard him. I saw PJ Jenkins Johnson Demario all in SINGLE coverage against him. Demario did the best due to his strength.
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Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew

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Saints have over 200 yards in penalties over the last two weeks.

I know some were ticky tacky however it's still a problem.
I it worse than that. 248 yards of penalties in 2 games and 150 yards of that is 6 Defensive Pass Interference penalties..

This is per game
28.5 yards per game (57 total) - Lattimore (3 penalties in 2 games 2/DPI, 1 UR)
22.5 yards per game - Williams
14.5 yards per game - Jenkins
14 yards per game - Jenkins

Everyone else is in single digits.

We lead the league in giving QBs 1st downs for incomplete passes.
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Old 09-22-2020, 08:50 AM   #8
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Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew

So far it looks like two of the Saints top free agent signings are complete busts, Jenkins and Sanders. Brees looks like an aging QB looking for that one last moment of glory.

Did anyone notice the great numbers Brees put up, thanks to the Raiders prevent defense and some serious stat boosting during pure garbage time at the end of the game? Can you say Jim Everett impersonation...
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Old 09-22-2020, 08:56 AM   #9
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So far it looks like two of the Saints top free agent signings are complete busts, Jenkins and Sanders. Brees looks like an aging QB looking for that one last moment of glory.
Emmanuel Sanders a bust? This guy is a superior route runner, was the difference in San Fran getting to the bowl but 6 months later NO he has 1 catch and can't get seem to get open against the Raiders SECONDARY?

Naw, not buying that one.
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Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew

Brees had a bad game, like Brady did last game. And MT was awol due to injury. Defense had lapses. Shows how our team failed to adjust... which is coaching related.

News flash... we're not winning every game.

Move on and on to the next game.
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