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jeanpierre 09-26-2020 05:08 AM

USA Today Saints Wire | Delvin Breaux files suit against ex-Saints team doctors
 
Hoping all the facts and the Truth come out in this case...

And if the team gets a black-eye in the process, so be it...



dizzle88 09-26-2020 05:58 AM

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Good!

I've listened to a few interviews from him, sounds like Payton and the team doctors really screwed him over.

He said he told Payton numerous times that there was something more wrong with his leg than initially reported and Payton ignored it and trusted the doctors.

Turns out it was broken and Payton gave him attitude when he couldn't perform properly.

Rugby Saint II 09-26-2020 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 897809)
Good!

I've listened to a few interviews from him, sounds like Payton and the team doctors really screwed him over.

He said he told Payton numerous times that there was something more wrong with his leg than initially reported and Payton ignored it and trusted the doctors.

Turns out it was broken and Payton gave him attitude when he couldn't perform properly.

I hope that he wins a big lawsuit. We didn't treat him right and he deserves to be taken care of. We screwed him out of a possible top notch NFL career. Good luck Delvin.

AsylumGuido 09-26-2020 01:03 PM

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It is likely that my wife's company will be handling the suit. She is a malpractice adjustor whose company insures virtually all the hospitals and doctors in Louisiana. She covers the entire northern half of the state so this wouldn't be one of her cases, but I would be surprised if any information ever comes out to the public. Very seldom do any of these cases ever reach court and therefore there are no public records. I'll ask her about it, but she can't share information, as you can well imagine. Louisiana is one of the most litigious states in the nation and cases that do end up in court are usually years down the road.

Also, if there is truly a chance of a doctor or facility being negligent and causing material harm there is commonly a settlement via mediation which includes a non-disclosure agreement.

In other words, don't hold your breath for anything coming out. Sorry to burst your bubble, JP. Just the straight scoop.

:(

AsylumGuido 09-26-2020 01:10 PM

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In addition, Louisiana has a malpractice cap of $500,000 even if a court awards millions. If there were clear negligence that would be a clean cut settlement ... under the radar.

jeanpierre 09-26-2020 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 897832)
It is likely that my wife's company will be handling the suit. She is a malpractice adjustor whose company insures virtually all the hospitals and doctors in Louisiana. She covers the entire northern half of the state so this wouldn't be one of her cases, but I would be surprised if any information ever comes out to the public. Very seldom do any of these cases ever reach court and therefore there are no public records. I'll ask her about it, but she can't share information, as you can well imagine. Louisiana is one of the most litigious states in the nation and cases that do end up in court are usually years down the road.

Also, if there is truly a chance of a doctor or facility being negligent and causing material harm there is commonly a settlement via mediation which includes a non-disclosure agreement.

In other words, don't hold your breath for anything coming out. Sorry to burst your bubble, JP. Just the straight scoop.

:(

Very much familiar with the world of malpractice, reinsurrance, subrogation et al...

But how many of your wife's, or rather her contemporaries' cases involved a New Orleans Saint?

If it doesn't come to light, it'll be because Greg Bensel, Dennis Lauscha, Ben Hales, Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton, Vicky Neumeyer et al counsel do a side deal with OHP and insist on an NDA as part of the settlement...

But I still would like the facts to come to light and this is why...

Yes, I do know some things via friends that I can't compromise their trust; they're at least two members in this community who know I'm not BS'ing on this...

That said, they're some injuries where some players get a bad wrap in the press because of a wink-wink, nod-nod agreement with the press and others to pressure a player back...

This has happened in more than one coaching regime with the Saints and I'd hoped it'd be different with the current regime...

I'll say that I don't believe that to be the case and that I feel Del Breaux caught a raw deal and fans should know...

He's a local boy, who loves all people, and wanted so much to bring Lombardi Gras to us; IMHO, his injury was misdiagnosed, mismanaged and they're several parties who should pay for that fubar situation...

Also have friendlies with the Press here; they have bills, families, et cetera, but if this were NYC, ATL, CHI, DAL, LA, Sean Payton would've had his head handed to him, rightfully so, long ago...

But Del Breaux should be made whole, and the Saints should do their part in that and embrace him as a former Saint and into the Saints community once again...

And then we can talk WestBank...

jeanpierre 09-26-2020 04:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 897833)
In addition, Louisiana has a malpractice cap of $500,000 even if a court awards millions. If there were clear negligence that would be a clean cut settlement ... under the radar.

And that is bad law, and this is why...

I'm no fan of trial lawyers, or lawyers in general; I've exactly two friends who happen to be lawyers, one is in subrogation and the other now does personal injury...

But all that malpractice cap is done is give actuaries a number to plug in to absorb those cases, causing everyone's medical bills to go up to absorb that cost...

Now, take that cap away and bad doctors can be sued out of practice, and that's as it should be - the market correcting itself...

But one thing you're right about, they're are many settlements that go for much more as the depositions for those doctors can get quite personal...

Once knew one who had to admit to three affairs in one day, no wonder she was exhausted with her patients; but her divorce proved to be more costly...

AsylumGuido 09-26-2020 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 897849)
Very much familiar with the world of malpractice, reinsurrance, subrogation et al...

But how many of your wife's, or rather her contemporaries' cases involved a New Orleans Saint?

If it doesn't come to light, it'll be because Greg Bensel, Dennis Lauscha, Ben Hales, Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton, Vicky Neumeyer et al counsel do a side deal with OHP and insist on an NDA as part of the settlement...

But I still would like the facts to come to light and this is why...

Yes, I do know some things via friends that I can't compromise their trust; they're at least two members in this community who know I'm not BS'ing on this...

That said, they're some injuries where some players get a bad wrap in the press because of a wink-wink, nod-nod agreement with the press and others to pressure a player back...

This has happened in more than one coaching regime with the Saints and I'd hoped it'd be different with the current regime...

I'll say that I don't believe that to be the case and that I feel Del Breaux caught a raw deal and fans should know...

He's a local boy, who loves all people, and wanted so much to bring Lombardi Gras to us; IMHO, his injury was misdiagnosed, mismanaged and they're several parties who should pay for that fubar situation...

Also have friendlies with the Press here; they have bills, families, et cetera, but if this were NYC, ATL, CHI, DAL, LA, Sean Payton would've had his head handed to him, rightfully so, long ago...

But Del Breaux should be made whole, and the Saints should do their part in that and embrace him as a former Saint and into the Saints community once again...

And then we can talk WestBank...

I am sure you want all of the details to come to light. I'm just letting you know that is not likely to happen. If it doesn't come to light, Greg Bensel, Dennis Lauscha, Ben Hales, Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton, and Vicky Neumeyer will have nothing to do with it. The suit is directly between the two doctors and the hospital system. The Saints and their personnel are not involved in the suit at all. They have zero say and zero liability.

You're pissin' up a rope if you think that this suit will affect the Saints organization whatsoever whether you think it is warranted or not. If Breaux' legal team felt like there was some to gain by suing the Saints as well they would have included them in the suit. It is customary to name every party even remotely involved in a suit. You should know that ... I know you do.

Oh, and they have dealt with bigger claims than from individuals with far more visiability than a Saints player. LOL!!!

AsylumGuido 09-26-2020 04:46 PM

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Okay, just talked with the wife. About the only hospital system in the state they don't cover is Oschner. But she totally agreed with everything I said. It will be years before it gets to court IF it does and IF it does it means the hospital knows it will win. It will likely be settled out of court, IF his counsel can show enough lasting damage to warrant a settlement, and if so there will definitely be a nondisclosure agreement.

No way your going to get your satisfaction, JP. I understand where you are coming from, but the Saints front office isn't involved at all in the matter and cannot be dragged into it publicly under the normal circumstances.

Xanax time, my friend.

AsylumGuido 09-26-2020 04:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 897850)
And that is bad law, and this is why...

I'm no fan of trial lawyers, or lawyers in general; I've exactly two friends who happen to be lawyers, one is in subrogation and the other now does personal injury...

But all that malpractice cap is done is give actuaries a number to plug in to absorb those cases, causing everyone's medical bills to go up to absorb that cost...

Now, take that cap away and bad doctors can be sued out of practice, and that's as it should be - the market correcting itself...

But one thing you're right about, they're are many settlements that go for much more as the depositions for those doctors can get quite personal...

Once knew one who had to admit to three affairs in one day, no wonder she was exhausted with her patients; but her divorce proved to be more costly...

Maybe that cap could go away if every swingin' d!ck in this state didn't sue everybody within twenty miles whenever someone farts in their presence.

ChrisXVI 09-26-2020 08:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 897809)
Good!

I've listened to a few interviews from him, sounds like Payton and the team doctors really screwed him over.

He said he told Payton numerous times that there was something more wrong with his leg than initially reported and Payton ignored it and trusted the doctors.

Turns out it was broken and Payton gave him attitude when he couldn't perform properly.

Breaux and Payton allegedly came to blows at training camp at the Greenbrier according to Breaux.

jeanpierre 09-26-2020 08:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 897854)
Maybe that cap could go away if every swingin' d!ck in this state didn't sue everybody within twenty miles whenever someone farts in their presence.

They sue because most cases don't meet a threshold for a jury trial. If trial lawyers suddenly are faced with the expense of underwriting a jury trial that they may lose, you'll see the lawsuits numbers drop...

Why do you think Morris Bart has lobbied so hard in the legislature? And backed the current governor so generously?

Start making those cases go to jury trial, and then you'll see only the legit cases get to court as trial lawyers won't walk into court on the hook for those court fees when they could lose...

jeanpierre 09-26-2020 08:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 897852)
I am sure you want all of the details to come to light. I'm just letting you know that is not likely to happen. If it doesn't come to light, Greg Bensel, Dennis Lauscha, Ben Hales, Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton, and Vicky Neumeyer will have nothing to do with it. The suit is directly between the two doctors and the hospital system. The Saints and their personnel are not involved in the suit at all. They have zero say and zero liability.

You're pissin' up a rope if you think that this suit will affect the Saints organization whatsoever whether you think it is warranted or not. If Breaux' legal team felt like there was some to gain by suing the Saints as well they would have included them in the suit. It is customary to name every party even remotely involved in a suit. You should know that ... I know you do.

Oh, and they have dealt with bigger claims than from individuals with far more visiability than a Saints player. LOL!!!

Case may be between OHP and Breaux, but when the deposition process starts, let's see what happens when Saints staff get called in under oath...

jeanpierre 09-27-2020 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 897859)
Breaux and Payton allegedly came to blows at training camp at the Greenbrier according to Breaux.


AsylumGuido 09-27-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 897864)
Case may be between OHP and Breaux, but when the deposition process starts, let's see what happens when Saints staff get called in under oath...

They wouldn't be deposed unless they were germane to the suit and if they were germane they would have been named as defendants.

I am curious, though, as to what he is claiming as damage. Misdiagnosis or even mistreatment alone are not grounds for a malpractice suit. There has to be some sort of negligence that causes injury or unneeded surgery as a result for a claim to be valid. Filing a claim is easy. Showing actual injury as a result is not. The fact that he was able to get a job in the CFL would show that he has no lingering issue as a result of a misdiagnosis, therefore no standing. There would have to be something else.

AsylumGuido 09-27-2020 09:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 897863)
They sue because most cases don't meet a threshold for a jury trial. If trial lawyers suddenly are faced with the expense of underwriting a jury trial that they may lose, you'll see the lawsuits numbers drop...

Why do you think Morris Bart has lobbied so hard in the legislature? And backed the current governor so generously?

Start making those cases go to jury trial, and then you'll see only the legit cases get to court as trial lawyers won't walk into court on the hook for those court fees when they could lose...

Maybe one out of every 200 cases ever make it to court. Most are thrown out for lack of grounds very early on. The small percentage that have some grounds are usually settled via mediation and never reach court. Yet, all of those still cost the insurance companies millions in legal fees even if the plaintiff doesn't get anywhere with the suit that they filed.

jeanpierre 09-27-2020 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 897889)
They wouldn't be deposed unless they were germane to the suit and if they were germane they would have been named as defendants.

I am curious, though, as to what he is claiming as damage. Misdiagnosis or even mistreatment alone are not grounds for a malpractice suit. There has to be some sort of negligence that causes injury or unneeded surgery as a result for a claim to be valid. Filing a claim is easy. Showing actual injury as a result is not. The fact that he was able to get a job in the CFL would show that he has no lingering issue as a result of a misdiagnosis, therefore no standing. There would have to be something else.

How are the Saints not germane to the suit? You'd have to have your head up your arse to think they weren't germane as the Saints hired OHP. Further, smart litigator will bring them in for as much discovery as possible...


And that's why the Saints might be inclined to cut a side deal with OHP to get this settled...

jeanpierre 09-27-2020 01:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 897890)
Maybe one out of every 200 cases ever make it to court. Most are thrown out for lack of grounds very early on. The small percentage that have some grounds are usually settled via mediation and never reach court. Yet, all of those still cost the insurance companies millions in legal fees even if the plaintiff doesn't get anywhere with the suit that they filed.

History. If you look at the number of cases and the costs before and after Trial Lawyers lobbied and got the law changed to raise the threshold for a trial jury, the numbers are night and day...

Louisiana is one of the most litigious states in the Union, and it's no wonder that Trial Lawyers are a big drain on what should be the South's second leading economy...

Rugby Saint II 09-27-2020 01:49 PM

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If anyone deserves a fair trial it's Delvin Breaux. We did him dirty. I didn't know that he had been in a fist fight with Payton. I read it earlier so please don't quote me. There was obviously bad blood but whose fault is it? I'm thinking Payton believed the Ochsner quacks and rode his ass to get him back sooner than he should have.

Rugby Saint II 09-27-2020 01:51 PM

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If anyone deserves a fair trial it's Delvin Breaux. We did him dirty. I didn't know that he had been in a fist fight with Payton. I read it earlier so please don't quote me. There was obviously bad blood but whose fault is it? I'm thinking Payton believed the Ochsner quacks and rode his ass to get him back sooner than he should have.

I called on Ochsner in medical sales. That place was almost as bad as the VA, which was horrible!

AsylumGuido 09-27-2020 02:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 897900)
How are the Saints not germane to the suit? You'd have to have your head up your arse to think they weren't germane as the Saints hired OHP. Further, smart litigator will bring them in for as much discovery as possible...


And that's why the Saints might be inclined to cut a side deal with OHP to get this settled...

I have a feeling you are a little personally invested into the whole affair.

As I mentioned before, Breaux' legal team is going to have to show injury caused by malfeasance to have the case even advance to the discovery stage.

I know and understand your frustration, but while you think I have my head up my arse you may need to pull yours out of the same orifice. The Saints have no "legal" liability here.

jeanpierre 09-27-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 897910)
I have a feeling you are a little personally invested into the whole affair.

As I mentioned before, Breaux' legal team is going to have to show injury caused by malfeasance to have the case even advance to the discovery stage.

I know and understand your frustration, but while you think I have my head up my arse you may need to pull yours out of the same orifice. The Saints have no "legal" liability here.

Have a feeling this is your fall back everytime I clearly demonstrate to the rational world you are wrong...

AsylumGuido 09-27-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 897915)
Have a feeling this is your fall back everytime I clearly demonstrate to the rational world you are wrong...

No. Let's wait and see. I am not wrong here. I would dare say I have the better insight into malpractice litigation in the state of Louisiana than anyone else that you know.

The Saints have no liability in the situation. Oscshner and the doctors may if they caused physical injury through their actions. I know you want the Saints punished, but there has to be legal cause.

I'm not saying that the Saints front office had no influence, but legally that has no bearing, JP. That is a fact. Sorry.

jeanpierre 09-27-2020 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 897917)
No. Let's wait and see. I am not wrong here. I would dare say I have the better insight into malpractice litigation in the state of Louisiana than anyone else that you know.

The Saints have no liability in the situation. Oscshner and the doctors may if they caused physical injury through their actions. I know you want the Saints punished, but there has to be legal cause.

I'm not saying that the Saints front office had no influence, but legally that has no bearing, JP. That is a fact. Sorry.

Quite an assumption that you have better insight on malpractice litigation that I know, considering I worked with a malpractice attorney for over five years and have remained close friends and converse with him weekly.

Secondly, you're jumping back and forth now to reframe what you said earlier and that the Saints wouldn't be deposed as their part was not germane to the case...

The Saints hired OHP, so they are definitely germane players in the suit even if they may not have any direct liability or are declared defendants, at this time.

Third, the facts of the case will come out to determine whether the Saints' influence over the OHP doctors that the Saints hired was a factor in the medical malpractice of Delvin Breaux's case...

AsylumGuido 09-27-2020 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 897924)
Quite an assumption that you have better insight on malpractice litigation that I know, considering I worked with a malpractice attorney for over five years and have remained close friends and converse with him weekly.

Secondly, you're jumping back and forth now to reframe what you said earlier and that the Saints wouldn't be deposed as their part was not germane to the case...

The Saints hired OHP, so they are definitely germane players in the suit even if they may not have any direct liability or are declared defendants, at this time.

Third, the facts of the case will come out to determine whether the Saints' influence over the OHP doctors that the Saints hired was a factor in the medical malpractice of Delvin Breaux's case...

Once again, JP. What would the claim of malpractice involve? What was his injury that was a result of mistreatment? That is the point I am making. It doesn't matter what type of influence the Saints had over the medical side. There has to be actual malpractice for anything to advance. His lawyers have to show that there was a material injury that resulted from his treatment before it ever gets to any point of discovery.

That is the law, JP. Plain and simple. You can ask your malpractice lawyer friend. Who knows, he may know my wife.

:bng:

PS. Oh, I have been married to a malpractice adjuster that has worked many, many hundreds of malpractice cases working hand in hand with a bank of lawyers that specialize in malpractice themselves over the past fifteen years or so all in the state of Louisiana.

I have heard more about malpractice in wind down sessions at the end of the day than you could ever imagine. So, yes, I believe I would have a better insight into malpractice litigation.

Just sayin', my friend.

;)

jeanpierre 09-27-2020 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 897925)
Once again, JP. What would the claim of malpractice involve? What was his injury that was a result of mistreatment? That is the point I am making. It doesn't matter what type of influence the Saints had over the medical side. There has to be actual malpractice for anything to advance. His lawyers have to show that there was a material injury that resulted from his treatment before it ever gets to any point of discovery.

That is the law, JP. Plain and simple. You can ask your malpractice lawyer friend. Who knows, he may know my wife.

:bng:

Now you are deflecting...

You argued Saints officials wouldn't be deposed as it wasn't germane to the case...

As the Saints hired the OHP doctors in the case, I stated it was very germane to the case...

Now you're trying to change what you said by restating a different argument, and that is deflection that you made an erroneous statement of assumption...

AsylumGuido 09-27-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 897928)
Now you are deflecting...

You argued Saints officials wouldn't be deposed as it wasn't germane to the case...

As the Saints hired the OHP doctors in the case, I stated it was very germane to the case...

Now you're trying to change what you said by restating a different argument, and that is deflection that you made an erroneous statement of assumption...

Sure, if it ever got to the point, which it wouldn't, that it advanced to a point where injury was suggested, then they may be addressed but unless they were directly involved in the treatment that resulted in the injury from the malpractice accusation I seriously doubt any deposition would take place. It certainly wouldn't have any relevance to the case of malpractice based upon the legal definition. By the way, PM me your lawyer friend's name that's the expert and I'll check with my wife if she knows him or her.

OldMaid 09-27-2020 09:11 PM

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How could they not properly check him for the simplest thing? A broken leg.
OMG.
Poor guy.
Best to him.

Halo 09-28-2020 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 898154)
How could they not properly check him for the simplest thing? A broken leg.
OMG.
Poor guy.
Best to him.

Very sad end to a great comeback. Team docs got fired for the incident.

spkb25 09-28-2020 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 897925)
Once again, JP. What would the claim of malpractice involve? What was his injury that was a result of mistreatment? That is the point I am making. It doesn't matter what type of influence the Saints had over the medical side. There has to be actual malpractice for anything to advance. His lawyers have to show that there was a material injury that resulted from his treatment before it ever gets to any point of discovery.

That is the law, JP. Plain and simple. You can ask your malpractice lawyer friend. Who knows, he may know my wife.

:bng:

PS. Oh, I have been married to a malpractice adjuster that has worked many, many hundreds of malpractice cases working hand in hand with a bank of lawyers that specialize in malpractice themselves over the past fifteen years or so all in the state of Louisiana.

I have heard more about malpractice in wind down sessions at the end of the day than you could ever imagine. So, yes, I believe I would have a better insight into malpractice litigation.

Just sayin', my friend.

;)

I'm married to a woman so I know a lot about periods and tampons 🙄

My dad was a soldier and my wife is taking down everyone. I'm a DB by proxy

Halo 09-28-2020 09:22 AM

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