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jeanpierre 11-08-2020 10:22 PM

USA Today Saints Wire | Saints sink Bucs, sweep Tom Brady for the first time in his NFL career
 

K Major 11-08-2020 10:55 PM

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Total domination from start to finish.

Anyone recall Bruce Arians saying that Trey Hendrickson was the easiest player on the line to block?? Trey had 3 consecutive sacks tonight.

He's a low key bully.

Great Saints win (swept the bucs) against a divisional opponent.

Keep grinding.

dizzle88 11-08-2020 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 902926)
Total domination from start to finish.

Anyone recall Bruce Arians saying that Trey Hendrickson was the easiest player on the line to block?? Trey had 3 consecutive sacks tonight.

He's a low key bully.

Great Saints win (swept the bucs) against a divisional opponent.

Keep grinding.

Yeah I was hoping Trey had that in the back of his mind.

Its a shame the first one didn't count but then to sack him twice directly after was a great sight.

Underrated and forever forgotten about to me is David Onyemata. There's a reason he was extended, the guy is super low on the radar for most but is a force every week and a key reason why teams don't rush well on us.

jeanpierre 11-09-2020 07:00 AM

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AsylumGuido 11-09-2020 07:16 AM

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#1 seed in the NFC as it stands now.

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TheOak 11-09-2020 07:33 AM

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#1 seed in the NFC as it stands now.

And only the Chiefs with a winning record in the remaining 8 games.

jeanpierre 11-09-2020 09:41 AM

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And only the Chiefs with a winning record in the remaining 8 games.

That's what gets us into trouble - playing down to teams...

You can throw out the records when we play the ATL...

K Major 11-09-2020 12:13 PM

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But lets be honest here.

The Bucs don't want to see (playoffs) the Saints no more this season.

vpheughan 11-09-2020 02:33 PM

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Isn't this the first year the Saints ever faced a Tom Brady led team twice?

jeanpierre 11-09-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 902997)
But lets be honest here.

The Bucs don't want to see (playoffs) the Saints no more this season.

May be wrong, but isn't there a stat floating out there that teams that have swept division opponents during the regular season choke against them in the playoffs?

Know it happen to the Saints where we lost to the ATL in playoffs...

AsylumGuido 11-09-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 903009)
May be wrong, but isn't there a stat floating out there that teams that have swept division opponents during the regular season choke against them in the playoffs?

Know it happen to the Saints where we lost to the ATL in playoffs...

In 2017 some pundits were claiming this when we were to face Carolina in the Wild Card round after sweeping them during the regular season. We beat them 31-26 to make it three for three.

The only time we have faced the Falcons in the playoffs was 1991. We split during the regular season and they beat us in the Wild Card. We also faced the Rams in 2000 Wild Card after splitting with them in the regular season. That was our first playoff win.

The Dude 11-09-2020 03:28 PM

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I think this is one of those scenarios where the wheels totally come off for Tampa after playing us. I can see a big losing streak coming up for them kind of like when we beat the 8-0 Falcons a couple years back. Didn’t they lose out the rest of the year?

jeanpierre 11-09-2020 05:09 PM

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jeanpierre 11-09-2020 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 903011)
In 2017 some pundits were claiming this when we were to face Carolina in the Wild Card round after sweeping them during the regular season. We beat them 31-26 to make it three for three.

The only time we have faced the Falcons in the playoffs was 1991. We split during the regular season and they beat us in the Wild Card. We also faced the Rams in 2000 Wild Card after splitting with them in the regular season. That was our first playoff win.

That's right, we lost in the Superdome in Overtime during the regular season, I'd left the game early with a date...

saintsfan1976 11-09-2020 07:10 PM

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I was in the Dome for the 2000 "Hakim Dropped The Ball!!" play. What a day - I remember seeing Buddy D live before the game. Those were the days in New Orleans.

jeanpierre 11-09-2020 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 903015)
I think this is one of those scenarios where the wheels totally come off for Tampa after playing us. I can see a big losing streak coming up for them kind of like when we beat the 8-0 Falcons a couple years back. Didn’t they lose out the rest of the year?

Dude, they have this quarterback named Tom Brady; check out his numbers after he lays up a turd, and if you look at his worst games in his career, he won the Superbowl that season...

Don't ever count out Tom Brady...

AsylumGuido 11-10-2020 06:59 AM

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jeanpierre 11-10-2020 08:16 AM

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st thomas 11-10-2020 08:26 AM

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K Major 11-10-2020 09:44 AM

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The disrespect for the New Orleans Saints is real. Fine by me, we'll just fly low and give teams an L.

But its simple, the national media has a hard on for Tom Brady.

jeanpierre 11-10-2020 10:41 AM

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Rugby Saint II 11-10-2020 01:10 PM

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Whoever says that women don't know football never listened to her give her insight. She showed those nay sayers.:bng:

jeanpierre 11-10-2020 06:23 PM

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Want Brady and the Bucs to win out. Why? It keeps a fire under the Saints and it enhances our SOS which looks pretty weak right now...

AsylumGuido 11-11-2020 08:05 AM

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Want Brady and the Bucs to win out. Why? It keeps a fire under the Saints and it enhances our SOS which looks pretty weak right now...

As long as we win the Super Bowl strength of schedule is meaningless. It is only used to break ties in draft order, but does not apply to the champion or runner up. It isn't used at all in playoff seeding. I'd much rather they were on the outside looking in if at all possible.

SaintFanInATLHELL 11-11-2020 12:10 PM

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As long as we win the Super Bowl strength of schedule is meaningless. It is only used to break ties in draft order, but does not apply to the champion or runner up. It isn't used at all in playoff seeding. I'd much rather they were on the outside looking in if at all possible.

That's not exactly correct for tiebreakers for playoff. It's embedded in the Strenght of Victory tiebreaker. SOV is the SOS of teams beaten by the contender. So, if teams the Saints have beaten win more, the SOV goes up.

It's the 4th tiebreaker on most lists. So, it doesn't come into play often. But it is there for playoff seeding.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido 11-11-2020 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 903155)
That's not exactly correct for tiebreakers for playoff. It's embedded in the Strenght of Victory tiebreaker. SOV is the SOS of teams beaten by the contender. So, if teams the Saints have beaten win more, the SOV goes up.

It's the 4th tiebreaker on most lists. So, it doesn't come into play often. But it is there for playoff seeding.

SFIAH

You're right. I was looking at draft tiebreakers which begin with strength of schedule. Division tiebreakers and wild card tiebreakers do use strength of schedule, but it shows it as the sixth level behind strength of victory in all but one scenario.

NFL Tiebreaking Procedures

The six postseason participants from each conference are seeded as follows:

The division champion with the best record.
The division champion with the second-best record.
The division champion with the third-best record.
The division champion with the fourth-best record.
The Wild Card club with the best record.
The Wild Card club with the second-best record.
The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.

NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.

To Break A Tie Within A Division

If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss

To Break A Tie For The Wild-Card Team

If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

Two Clubs

Head-to-head, if applicable.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in conference games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss.

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.

Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in conference games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss

When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.

AsylumGuido 11-11-2020 12:25 PM

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In the National Football League (NFL), the strength of schedule (SOS) is the combined record of all teams in a schedule, and the strength of victory (SOV) is the combined record of all teams that were beaten in that schedule.

But, I would still rather not have to face Tampa again so I'm all for them losing out.

:D

Rugby Saint II 11-11-2020 02:00 PM

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Flying under the radar is what we do best. I hope we keep winning but no one believes that we'll win again. I hate it when we buy into our own hype which happens at least once a year and we lay a goods egg.


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