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AsylumGuido 12-18-2020 02:36 PM

Sean Payton once again masters the game of quarterback misinformation
 
Sean Payton once again masters the game of quarterback misinformation

Posted by Mike Florio on December 18, 2020, 10:31 AM EST

Four weeks ago, Saints coach Sean Payton led everyone to believe that Jameis Winston, not Taysom Hill, would replace Drew Brees as the team’s starting quarterback. Hill got the start, along with three more. Today, Payton once again has demonstrated his brilliance when it comes to manipulating quarterback information.

With all signs pointing to Brees sitting out one more game, Payton has pulled the ol’ switcheroo by making it known that Brees will return to the starting lineup on Sunday.

The development contradicts all available evidence and supposition. On Sunday, Jay Glazer of FOX called a Brees return on Christmas Day against the Vikings “more of a viable target” than a Week 15 resumption of duties against the Chiefs. On Thursday, Ian Rapoport of NFL Media said Brees won’t play until he’s “asymptomatic.” On Thursday, Adam Schefter of ESPN.com (who reported that Brees will start) highlighted Payton’s press-conference comment that Brees still has “a ways to go” and that “we’re not gonna just hurry [Brees] back and just put him in the game.”

Now, with the Chiefs quite possibly having spent the bulk of the week preparing for Hill, they (and the rest of us) find out that Brees will be the guy. It’s a genius move, with no real downside for Payton — and a significant potential upside in the form of, possibly, an unprepared Chiefs Defense and an opportunity to score a much-needed upset win, if the Saints hope to secure the No. 1 seed.

WhoDat!656 12-18-2020 03:48 PM

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I doubt SP fooled anyone, especially not Andy Reid.

AsylumGuido 12-18-2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 907705)
I doubt SP fooled anyone, especially not Andy Reid.

Do you think that Reid spent all of his time planning for Brees as the starter? If not then it had to have some detrimental effect.

bobdog86 12-18-2020 05:16 PM

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i think any time there's a change like this, it has to change the prep somewhat...I just have to believe with coach Reid, it won't be that difficult as say some other organizations.

WhoDat!656 12-18-2020 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 907717)
Do you think that Reid spent all of his time planning for Brees as the starter? If not then it had to have some detrimental effect.

Coach Reid knows what Brees is and isn't capable of; no need to devote a lot of time on film study.

But if Reid and Spags spent a lot of time trying designing defenses to confuse Taysom, then that time and effort has been wasted.

AsylumGuido 12-18-2020 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 907719)
i think any time there's a change like this, it has to change the prep somewhat...I just have to believe with coach Reid, it won't be that difficult as say some other organizations.

I can see that from an offensive viewpoint which is Reid's specialty, but it would have been the defensive staff preparing for Hill and then having to dump it all for Brees at the 11th hour.

AsylumGuido 12-18-2020 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 907720)
Coach Reid knows what Brees is and isn't capable of; no need to devote a lot of time on film study.

But if Reid and Spags spent a lot of time trying designing defenses to confuse Taysom, then that time and effort has been wasted.

Exactly. That is valuable time lost. In this COVID world practice and preparation time is at a premium.

bobdog86 12-18-2020 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 907721)
I can see that from an offensive viewpoint which is Reid's specialty, but it would have been the defensive staff preparing for Hill and then having to dump it all for Brees at the 11th hour.

Possibly, I just believe as an organization it will have less of an impact than most.

AsylumGuido 12-18-2020 05:40 PM

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Possibly, I just believe as an organization it will have less of an impact than most.

Possibly, but some impact is better than none. One missed assignment due to last minute changes can mean the difference.

ChrisXVI 12-18-2020 05:48 PM

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I don’t think anyone was fooled.

AsylumGuido 12-18-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 907727)

That'll piss Payton off if he can find out who let that out of the house.

:D

Maybe that's why he was acting so pissed off in his presser today.

Or it could have been a ploy by Reid just to try to piss him off. I love hearing Coach Charlie Weis talk about the mind-games played between coaches.

:D

Audiotom 12-19-2020 03:32 AM

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bringing Brees out now isn’t smart

Pull Jameis and really screw with KC defensive prep

AsylumGuido 12-19-2020 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 907739)
bringing Brees out now isn’t smart

Pull Jameis and really screw with KC defensive prep

And screw with the slim chance we have of winning the game, right?

Why do you feel that it isn't smart to bring Brees back now? Do you know something we don't know?

jnormand 12-19-2020 08:58 AM

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So who's the mole? That's what I'd like to know.

Boston Saint 12-19-2020 09:16 AM

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gosaints1 12-19-2020 11:37 AM

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The games coaches play just aren’t that important. The players and how talented, how focused, how hungry they are..., is important. A bad team that actually is a team and is hungry for the win will beat a much, much more talented collection of individuals that aren’t hyper-focused only on their next opponent.

meh, I normally enjoy Florio’s write-ups and watch his commentary when I can. Heck, I’ve had him autograph a copy of his old book “QB of the Future” for me, he’s an extremely likable and nice guy, knowledgeable. But, that article is either propaganda or pandering. imho, a nonsense article.

AsylumGuido 12-19-2020 11:49 AM

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My all-time favorite group. My favorite album is Odds & Sods.

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Rugby Saint II 12-19-2020 02:03 PM

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Sean's mind is wired differently than most NFL coaches. That makes him unpredictable....that and his tendency to gamble pushes his thinking toward existentialism.

iceshack149 12-19-2020 02:50 PM

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meh, I normally enjoy Florio’s write-ups and watch his commentary when I can. Heck, I’ve had him autograph a copy of his old book “QB of the Future” for me, he’s an extremely likable and nice guy, knowledgeable. But, that article is either propaganda or pandering. imho, a nonsense article.

Isn't propaganda and pandering Florio's shtick? I don't doubt that he's knowledgeable but he and Chris Simms are becoming like Skip Bayless; trying to turn the NFL into the WWE. Shock value is becoming their thing.

iceshack149 12-19-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 907746)
So who's the mole? That's what I'd like to know.

Mike Cerullo. Screw that guy.

AsylumGuido 12-19-2020 03:13 PM

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Mike Cerullo. Screw that guy.

Yup. The weasel fabricated "evidence" that he later admitted had no relevance because the Saints fired him, for what? Yes, lying to management on multiple occasions. Go figure.

RailBoss 12-19-2020 08:36 PM

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Mike Cerullo. Screw that guy.

The Human Mole..

RailBoss 12-19-2020 08:37 PM

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Fool On The Hill...



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