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SmashMouth 12-25-2020 11:39 PM

Observations from a dominant Saints win vs Vikings
 
We kicked arse.



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SmashMouth 12-26-2020 12:20 AM

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SmashMouth 12-26-2020 12:20 AM

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SmashMouth 12-26-2020 12:23 AM

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SmashMouth 12-26-2020 12:40 AM

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https://purplepainforums.com/thread/...-gets-deflated

https://vikinghorn.proboards.com/thr...-thread?page=6

Cruize 12-26-2020 03:55 AM

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-Vikings defense is horrible.
-Kamara looked great and needs to rest next week.
-Brees looked much better but was still short/late on a few. In the playoffs those are picks.
-Hurst was very good at guard. Deserves a look next week.
-Callaway is the real deal. Smooth route. Great hands. Good and willing blocker.
-Trautman does the dirty work and is more than capable as a receiver.
-Hill continues to succeed at whatever he's asked to do. With a full camp as the QB1, I believe the sky is the limit.
-The defense will miss Kwon.
-I like Granderson. If the Saints lose Hendrickson, I believe he will very easily fill the gap. Especially with a full offseason and camp.
-Tuttle not getting to the QB but having the presence to get into the throwing lane AND make the pass breakup was a great play.

canucksaint 12-26-2020 05:23 AM

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I agree with most things.
Brees is still playing really hurt, and you could tell this impacted his game, and a couple throws were short.
Calloway, Trautman and Granderson speak highly for the future.
Kwon will be a huge loss, and I'm worried about what the drop off will be.
Hill has a lot of potential. Will be interesting to see where it progresses for him to be a starting QB.

With yesterdays game, while absolutely amazing, I haven't seen a lot of people talk (other than at the time) about Thielen's late TD. There were comments at the time about 1. Not passing the goal line, & 2. Both feet not coming down in bounds. But I haven't seen ANY talk afterwards, nor am I able to find any video, other than the one clip which is from a distance and unable to tell. Not that this is a big deal either way, as we won regardless, but it's more out of interest.

hitta 12-26-2020 05:37 AM

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This game felt like semi-redemption. They've knocked us out of the playoffs twice over the last couple of years, and we had a better team than them both times. Beating the **** out of them felt nice. I think we should have ran it into the end-zone with Kamara again just to put the cherry on top instead of kneeling. Normally when we lose, I think we lost because it was our fault or whatever... I think we should take responsibility or whatever. That doesn't change with the games with lost in the playoffs against Minn. Still, I feel like those are some of the luckiest ****ers on the planet in the games against us, so when we play them I don't think we should ever take the foot off the pedal. I don't care if there is 1 second left and we have a 50 point lead... let's get another 7 points. **** them.

RailBoss 12-26-2020 06:26 AM

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Close the book on all the Viking spoiler hype, next subject...

WhoDat!656 12-26-2020 06:57 AM

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This is the comment I posted on ProFootballTalk

'My hatred and loathing of the Vikings is so deep that if the Saints were up 100-0 with .01 left in the 4th quarter and the ball on the Saints 1 yard line I would want them to throw.'

Boston Saint 12-26-2020 08:12 AM

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It did feel really nice paying them back by knocking them out of playoffs. Karma.

rezburna 12-26-2020 08:51 AM

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If we can run the ball like that throughout the playoffs we can win the Super Bowl.

We have to take the ball out of Brees hands. He’s going to kill us. He really threw 4 interceptions if not for a drop and a great play by Calloway. Healthy or not, that’s who he’s been for a while.

neugey 12-26-2020 09:52 AM

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It was really cool to see a big NFL record set/matched by a Saint that didn't involve Brees (he has plenty). We'll probably all remember this Christmas game for the rest of our lives. Very cool.

WW_Who_Dat 12-26-2020 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 909359)
If we can run the ball like that throughout the playoffs we can win the Super Bowl.

We have to take the ball out of Brees hands. He’s going to kill us. He really threw 4 interceptions if not for a drop and a great play by Calloway. Healthy or not, that’s who he’s been for a while.

I agree with you to a degree, Brees is not up to speed completely and that has been evident but to say take the ball out Bree’s hands or he is going to kill us I think is a bit of an over statement.

He did make 4 throws that could have been or were interceptions. As much as I am not an Aikman fan he called out Cook on that 1st interception and showed on replay that Cook ran a poor route on the out pattern, he faded off the sideline cut allowing the defender to get under the route for the interception.

On the Sanders interception that was a ball Sanders coulda shoulda woulda normally caught but his backhand slapped the ball up in the air and a defender, not his defender was in the right place right time. Benefit of the doubt 50/50. Not bad throw by Brees.

The other 2 throws you mentioned yep bad throws, but you failed to mention Brees threw for 316 yards yesterday 19 of 27.

I want to win just as you all the rest of B&G’s do I just don’t think we stand a chance in the playoff run with either Taysom or Winston bottom line. One I think can’t read the defenses Pre snap well enough to audible and adjust and the other has no real time with the one’s.

Coach keeps saying the next Saints QB is in the house we will see in 2021. If that’s true I don’t think the next Saint QB has started a regular season game for the Saints yet. We might see a 2 QB system similar to what we have seen this year.

dizzle88 12-26-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 909364)
I agree with you to a degree, Brees is not up to speed completely and that has been evident but to say take the ball out Bree’s hands or he is going to kill us I think is a bit of an over statement.

He did make 4 throws that could have been or were interceptions. As much as I am not an Aikman fan he called out Cook on that 1st interception and showed on replay that Cook ran a poor route on the out pattern, he faded off the sideline cut allowing the defender to get under the route for the interception.

On the Sanders interception that was a ball Sanders coulda shoulda woulda normally caught but his backhand slapped the ball up in the air and a defender, not his defender was in the right place right time. Benefit of the doubt 50/50. Not bad throw by Brees.

The other 2 throws you mentioned yep bad throws, but you failed to mention Brees threw for 316 yards yesterday 19 of 27.

I want to win just as you all the rest of B&G’s do I just don’t think we stand a chance in the playoff run with either Taysom or Winston bottom line. One I think can’t read the defenses Pre snap well enough to audible and adjust and the other has no real time with the one’s.

Coach keeps saying the next Saints QB is in the house we will see in 2021. If that’s true I don’t think the next Saint QB has started a regular season game for the Saints yet. We might see a 2 QB system similar to what we have seen this year.

Completely agree, I find myself holding my breath when I see a pass intended for Cook, its either a big play or a disaster.

Granted it wasn't an outright great day from Brees, but there were once again a bunch of plays where he had diagnosed the defense pre-snap and exploited it, something that Taysom is unable to do.

There's one player I have utmost trust in when the ball is headed his way and I'd never even heard of the guy at the start of the year - Marquez Callaway.
He's everything Trequan should have been, big bodied receiver, catches with his hands and not his body, can block in the running game and does it well. Just a complete player and looking like an absolute steal.

K Major 12-26-2020 10:52 AM

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I'm a huge fan of Marquez Callaway. Undrafted but he's already ahead of the curve in development.

Runs north and south on punt returns, can high point the ball away from his body and has good hands. More importantly he's creating separation at WR.

His future is bright at WR.

cmike 12-26-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by canucksaint (Post 909348)

With yesterdays game, while absolutely amazing, I haven't seen a lot of people talk (other than at the time) about Thielen's late TD. There were comments at the time about 1. Not passing the goal line, & 2. Both feet not coming down in bounds. But I haven't seen ANY talk afterwards, nor am I able to find any video, other than the one clip which is from a distance and unable to tell. Not that this is a big deal either way, as we won regardless, but it's more out of interest.

That was not a TD. Thielen may have broken the plane when he first caught the pass but he was in the air while doing so. He never got two feet down, even when he reached back with the ball as he was forced out of bounds. Unlike when Drew jumps over the pile and breaks the plane, his feet are already on the ground when he takes the snap.
Was not A TD by Thielen.

AsylumGuido 12-26-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 909364)
I agree with you to a degree, Brees is not up to speed completely and that has been evident but to say take the ball out Bree’s hands or he is going to kill us I think is a bit of an over statement.

He did make 4 throws that could have been or were interceptions. As much as I am not an Aikman fan he called out Cook on that 1st interception and showed on replay that Cook ran a poor route on the out pattern, he faded off the sideline cut allowing the defender to get under the route for the interception.

On the Sanders interception that was a ball Sanders coulda shoulda woulda normally caught but his backhand slapped the ball up in the air and a defender, not his defender was in the right place right time. Benefit of the doubt 50/50. Not bad throw by Brees.

The other 2 throws you mentioned yep bad throws, but you failed to mention Brees threw for 316 yards yesterday 19 of 27.

I want to win just as you all the rest of B&G’s do I just don’t think we stand a chance in the playoff run with either Taysom or Winston bottom line. One I think can’t read the defenses Pre snap well enough to audible and adjust and the other has no real time with the one’s.

Coach keeps saying the next Saints QB is in the house we will see in 2021. If that’s true I don’t think the next Saint QB has started a regular season game for the Saints yet. We might see a 2 QB system similar to what we have seen this year.

Agree with this, as well. And on top of the Sanders created pick, Brees threw that ball where only Sanders should have had a chance at it. On the other two could'a been it appeared that Brees didn't get his feet set. What power he has comes from his base, not his arm.

I also believe we could not have put up those rushing numbers without Brees. I think the players would all agree. Those pre-snap reads are crucial and can be impossible to stop with proper execution (ie. correct routes, blocking assignments, catching the ball, etc.).

rezburna 12-26-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 909364)
I agree with you to a degree, Brees is not up to speed completely and that has been evident but to say take the ball out Bree’s hands or he is going to kill us I think is a bit of an over statement.

He did make 4 throws that could have been or were interceptions. As much as I am not an Aikman fan he called out Cook on that 1st interception and showed on replay that Cook ran a poor route on the out pattern, he faded off the sideline cut allowing the defender to get under the route for the interception.

On the Sanders interception that was a ball Sanders coulda shoulda woulda normally caught but his backhand slapped the ball up in the air and a defender, not his defender was in the right place right time. Benefit of the doubt 50/50. Not bad throw by Brees.

The other 2 throws you mentioned yep bad throws, but you failed to mention Brees threw for 316 yards yesterday 19 of 27.

I want to win just as you all the rest of B&G’s do I just don’t think we stand a chance in the playoff run with either Taysom or Winston bottom line. One I think can’t read the defenses Pre snap well enough to audible and adjust and the other has no real time with the one’s.

Coach keeps saying the next Saints QB is in the house we will see in 2021. If that’s true I don’t think the next Saint QB has started a regular season game for the Saints yet. We might see a 2 QB system similar to what we have seen this year.

I’d say if Jameis Winston or Taysom Hill played the exact same game the exact same way the guillotines would be out. The throw to Sanders was a miss by Brees. He led it out too far, but if we’re going with the old adage of you touch it, you catch it then cool. Stalemate.

Cook was smart to fade out on the other pick whether he meant to or not because Harrison Smith was sitting underneath and could have easily made that play. The proper decision is to not make that throw at all. We’re in field goal range. He wants to check down any other time.

They gave Kamara the ball 20 times on the ground for the first time in his entire career and he delivered. I can’t be the only person holding their breath every time Brees passes the ball these days. He’s still smart. That’s great, but the days of him carrying this team are dead.

bobdog86 12-26-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 909370)
I’d say if Jameis Winston or Taysom Hill played the exact same game the exact same way the guillotines would be out. The throw to Sanders was a miss by Brees. He led it out too far, but if we’re going with the old adage of you touch it, you catch it then cool. Stalemate.

Cook was smart to fade out on the other pick whether he meant to or not because Harrison Smith was sitting underneath and could have easily made that play. The proper decision is to not make that throw at all. We’re in field goal range. He wants to check down any other time.

They gave Kamara the ball 20 times on the ground for the first time in his entire career and he delivered. I can’t be the only person holding their breath every time Brees passes the ball these days. He’s still smart. That’s great, but the days of him carrying this team are dead.

I agree with most of this, did look to me Drew missed on the cook and Sanders. Yes, Taysom and Winston would have been skewered for those throws, but IMO thought Drew made some throws that were more reminiscent of his skill, like the one to Sanders down the middle, not sure if it was just a seem route or crappy post, but it was thrown to where only our guy could make the play. And yes, I find myself having breathing issues often times when Brees drops back, but not to the point of requiring supplemental oxygen. My concern is and always been the commitment to the run, which we do very well when we do it. Kamara was on the field for 64% of the offensive plays. Process that for a minute. To me, I’m Good with that, as long as Murray is being utilized as he should be.

Rugby Saint II 12-26-2020 01:23 PM

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Drew is 41. You just aren't as athletic as your younger self. He's the best we've got and he's still a top 5 QB. When Brees is gone we will realize just how blessed we have been. We expect perfection from Drew because he's always been exceptional. Yes, he's not as good as he once was but he's still a stud. Post Brees is going to leave a gaping hole that won't easily be filled.

People have been calling for him to retire for a few years now and he still delivers. Personally, I hope he comes back next year.

RailBoss 12-26-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 909352)
This is the comment I posted on ProFootballTalk

'My hatred and loathing of the Vikings is so deep that if the Saints were up 100-0 with .01 left in the 4th quarter and the ball on the Saints 1 yard line I would want them to throw.'

656 just a question, in this game with one second left do we have the ball?

The Dude 12-26-2020 01:55 PM

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Just an observation...Callaway is going to be a stud. Rookies rarely have the smarts/ability early on to break up a would be interception. He’s showing he brings a lot to the table.

RailBoss 12-26-2020 01:56 PM

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All of us loathe the Vikings except our Coach, seems he's buddies with Coach Zimmer.
But actually a few good things came to us from Minnesota
Teddy Bridgewater Nick Easton Latavius Murray and Zach Line

Boston Saint 12-26-2020 02:51 PM

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I hear they make OK poutine.

rezburna 12-26-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 909372)
I agree with most of this, did look to me Drew missed on the cook and Sanders. Yes, Taysom and Winston would have been skewered for those throws, but IMO thought Drew made some throws that were more reminiscent of his skill, like the one to Sanders down the middle, not sure if it was just a seem route or crappy post, but it was thrown to where only our guy could make the play. And yes, I find myself having breathing issues often times when Brees drops back, but not to the point of requiring supplemental oxygen. My concern is and always been the commitment to the run, which we do very well when we do it. Kamara was on the field for 64% of the offensive plays. Process that for a minute. To me, I’m Good with that, as long as Murray is being utilized as he should be.

I wouldn’t hold him to such a high standard if he has never set the bar there. When he makes those tremendous throws I just nod. That’s what’s he’s supposed to do. He’s Drew Brees. 1st Ballot HOF’er.

RailBoss 12-26-2020 03:14 PM

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I hear they make OK poutine.

Yes they do but according to some friends from Canada they say they are the Poutine Kings.

Boston Saint 12-26-2020 03:26 PM

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I wouldn’t hold him to such a high standard if he has never set the bar there. When he makes those tremendous throws I just nod. That’s what’s he’s supposed to do. He’s Drew Brees. 1st Ballot HOF’er.

We just saw Brady make 5 of them today. I’m not a Pat fan, nor am I a Niner fan. But I lived there when Montana made those plays and I lived here when Brady did too. Drew has the chance to be the GOAT.

Boston Saint 12-26-2020 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 909396)
Yes they do but according to some friends from Canada they say they are the Poutine Kings.

I guess it depends on if you like the cheese curds “squeaky” or not. I understand that makes a big difference regionally. Sort of like the diff between KC BBQ and Memphis.

K Major 12-26-2020 04:33 PM

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Saw the replay and it was interesting watching DAVENPORT lined up at DT in the 1st quarter & getting abused on run plays.

Dennis Allen needs to place him at DE and leave him there.

WW_Who_Dat 12-26-2020 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 909401)
Saw the replay and it was interesting watching DAVENPORT lined up at DT in the 1st quarter & getting abused on run plays.

Dennis Allen needs to place him at DE and leave him there.

Dennis Allen just try’s to be too cerebral ... I thought we did a poor job of setting the edge and maintaining gap control. The phrase I hear a lot of lately is “Eye Control” ... we did not have good eye control yesterday, Jenkins seemed lost in coverage and helping set the edge on his side.

Audiotom 12-28-2020 12:14 PM

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Run defense sucked
Pass defense - Anzalone/Alexander LB play - sucked

Although without turnovers it would have been a blowout

Rugby Saint II 12-29-2020 12:53 PM

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It's another W in the win column. That's my biggest takeaway from the game.


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